Help me Understand upgrading Animus to Novus

Now I know you need 75 materia and 75 Alexandrites
BUt how do I know how much piety to but in or Mind since I'm a healer or Det
A lot of people say start off on materia I like piety materia I
But how much piety 1's or piety II how do I know when to go on to the next materia up?
Mind materia
Piety Materia
Det Materia
Crit materia
Acc materia I think I don't need but idk
Would I do 18 materia in each stat?
But it still doesn't explain when to do an upgrade on each materia when to movie on to materia II
Sorry if this seems confusing but it's confusing to me
forgot about Vit matiera so it wouldn't be 18 in each stat

Need a lot of gil. Good luck.

The system decides when you get to move on to the next tier of materia and all of them gives only a +1, regardless of tier or type.

See:
http://www.ffxivguild.com/ffxiv-novu...materia-guide/

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Originally Posted by NyarukoW

Need a lot of gil. Good luck.

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You're no help at all

How much piety or determination stats you put into your weapon is completely up to you. 1 materia used = 1 point. Lets say you wanna start with piety, you start with piety I materia and fuse those into your scroll. I believe around 7 materia is when you start to notice the infusion success rate start to drop, and after 11 piety I materia infused you'll need to start using piety II materia if you wanna keep putting points towards piety.

You have 75 points to choose from. 75 points, 75 Alex, 75 materia that needs to be fused into your scroll. Might I add, the most you can max out a single stat by is 44 points. Then you'll need to pick a different one.

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Originally Posted by ReddAxel

How much piety or determination stats you put into your weapon is completely up to you. 1 materia used = 1 point. Lets say you wanna start with piety, you start with piety I materia and fuse those into your scroll. I believe around 7 materia is when you start to notice the infusion success rate start to drop, and after 11 piety I materia infused you'll need to start using piety II materia if you wanna keep putting points towards piety.

You have 75 points to choose from. 75 points, 75 Alex, 75 materia that needs to be fused into your scroll. Might I add, the most you can max out a single stat by is 44 points. Then you'll need to pick a different one.

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Thank you I get it now.
Lots of help

Basically you're going to want to go full crit/det for the best weapon, it will be very expensive since you need 11+ crit 4s and 8+ det 4s in the end. It's up to you if you want to add some accuracy, spell speed or piety to make it cheaper.

You will start out using grade 1 materia and after 8-11+ materia it will go up to grade 2.. then after 8-11+ grade 3.. then 8-11 grade 4 for a total of 75 materia infused.

There is no way to tell you exactly how many materia you will need since you can fail the infusions and may require more of a certain grade. If you fail an infusion you lose the materia but you do not lose the alexandrite.

Good luck. I'd recommend going for 3 different stats if I were you, so you get a little of everything and you aren't draining your wallet. If you have the Gil or time to spiritbond, then pick your preferred stat and max it out.

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Might I add, the most you can max out a single stat by is 44 points. Then you'll need to pick a different one.

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Not always 44, it depends on the stat.

Generally speaking, it's a relatively even split (or as even as it can be) for the types of materia you need. For instance, if a stat could go up by say, 33, then you would need 8 each of I/II/III/IV materia if you wanted to max it... plus a 9th of one of those types (not sure which one) because the extra has to go somewhere.

One notable exception is putting accuracy on a healer weapon... the innate small bit of accuracy that they put on healer gear past a certain level counts toward your melds already, so you'll only need a couple of tier I accuracy materia before you start needing tier IIs (of which you'll need a lot more if you want to keep progressing the stat).

Unlike the Atma -> Animus step, you aren't trying to meet a "quota" with your Novus. Instead, you are melding 75 materia to decide which secondary stats you want on your weapon. This of course requires a fairly strong understanding of what each stat does for your job.

It's worth noting that once you've finished a Novus weapon, you have the option to change the stat allocations on it using another scroll. The most efficient course of action is to focus first on completing the Novus step so you can start working on Nexus, and just save up to repec if you decide you truly need to.

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Originally Posted by LazyMemories

You're no help at all

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Sorry. But you should NOT expect any. Just trying to set your expectations straight. There is no helping the fact that Det IV mat is like 700K each and you need 8 of those to hit the 31 Det limit. This stuff is crazy expensive and the just wait when the meld fails and you lose the 700k. The feels there is real!

How the heck do people afford more than one 135 weapon....???

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Originally Posted by NyarukoW

Sorry. But you should NOT expect any. Just trying to set your expectations straight. There is no helping the fact that Det IV mat is like 700K each and you need 8 of those to hit the 31 Det limit. This stuff is crazy expensive and the just wait when the meld fails and you lose the 700k. The feels there is real!

How the heck do people afford more than one 135 weapon....???

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They spiritbond. Most of the people I know that did a Relic spent weeks on it, because of the cost. It's rough, but it's pretty much the only option if you don't have the money to fail a bit of the rank IV's.

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Originally Posted by NyarukoW

Sorry. But you should NOT expect any. Just trying to set your expectations straight. There is no helping the fact that Det IV mat is like 700K each and you need 8 of those to hit the 31 Det limit. This stuff is crazy expensive and the just wait when the meld fails and you lose the 700k. The feels there is real!

How the heck do people afford more than one 135 weapon....???

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Originally Posted by Nominous

They spiritbond. Most of the people I know that did a Relic spent weeks on it, because of the cost. It's rough, but it's pretty much the only option if you don't have the money to fail a bit of the rank IV's.

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The difference between using Tier IV materia and melding 3 stats is so small it's not worth worrying about. If you're concerned with the cost about the Tier IV materia, just meld a 3rd stat and move on to Nexus. You'll get MUCH better benefit from moving to your Zeta faster with all that sweet, sweet weapon damage instead of derping around about a few secondary stats that do almost nothing.

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Originally Posted by NyarukoW

How the heck do people afford more than one 135 weapon....???

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I have Longinus Zeta and Sasuke's Blades Zeta with capped DET/CRIT. This is what I did;

Level and invest in the appropriate crafting classes (with leves it's incredibly fast), and the zodiacs become effectively free/profitable. Then create your own gear to spirit bond with to get the materia you want. Meld whatever useless materia you get onto spirit bonding gear to increase spirit bond rate. Profit off the not-so-crap materia you don't need to get more materials to create more spirit bonding gear. After all is said and done for one Zodiac, you'll come out ahead.

Crafting five full sets (left and right side) takes me about 1.5 to 2hrs while watching a movie, because i'm lazy and crafting is boring (you could craft faster). Melding the crap materia I have or purchased off the MB for cheap takes about 30m for 5 full left/right side sets. With Spirit Bond potion, full melds, and FC buff, it usually takes about 2 hours to fully Spirit Bond all five sets, which give me 55 chances for the materia I want, of which I usually yield at least 1-3 Det/Crit V's.

It takes work and time, but it's supposed to. My group can meet for Final Coil only twice a week, so that leaves me with a lot of extra time on my hands (outside of the GF and full time job). If it wasn't for the Zodiac Quest, I'd really have nothing else to do that is progressive-minded.

Some people feel like they should be able to get a good weapon for less effort because they don't have enough time. Well, they can. They're called Primal/Soldiery weapons.

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Originally Posted by Giantbane

The difference between using Tier IV materia and melding 3 stats is so small it's not worth worrying about. If you're concerned with the cost about the Tier IV materia, just meld a 3rd stat and move on to Nexus. You'll get MUCH better benefit from moving to your Zeta faster with all that sweet, sweet weapon damage instead of derping around about a few secondary stats that do almost nothing.

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Quoted for truth.

You don't need to spend the extra amount/time on the last T4's, and the quest is forgiving enough to allow you to meld whatever off stat you want in order to not touch them until later (all the way to the completed Zeta phase), while benefiting from a higher iLv weapon immediately.

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Originally Posted by Kanemano

Quoted for truth.

You don't need to spend the extra amount/time on the last T4's, and the quest is forgiving enough to allow you to meld whatever off stat you want in order to not touch them until later (all the way to the completed Zeta phase), while benefiting from a higher iLv weapon immediately.

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Don't you still need to get all 75 infusions done first before you can go farm light? What happens to the alexandrite that is consumed in the process when you are just melding junk stats?

Yes, you still need a total of 75 infusions, so infuse whatever you want to complete after you've gotten to a stopping point on the attributes you actually want (weapon-depending, accuracy is not necessarily a bad stat to substitute with, it can potentially free up acc in other parts of your build).

It DOES consume alex per meld, but if you do your daily expert, you'll always have an alex per day from that quest alone. At the moment, i'm sitting on 77 alex and 3 extra maps I don't know what to do with (maybe if DRK has a relic/zodiac...), so you won't be wanting for more alex. If you are, there are a multitude of ways to acquire more (allied seals, alex maps with soldiery, FATE farming with Nexus and up).

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Originally Posted by NyarukoW

Don't you still need to get all 75 infusions done first before you can go farm light? What happens to the alexandrite that is consumed in the process when you are just melding junk stats?

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You can respec, and getting Alex is pretty easy these days. The first melds you do aren't the stats you're stuck with forever, so it's more efficient to meld three useful stats now than do three weeks of spiritbonding for a "perfect" Crit/Det build when you could be working on Nexus at the same time.