Players trolling "The Time of My Life" by standing on top of NPCs.

PLEASE add some kind of invisible barrier around the NPCs of this GATE. As it stands it's VERY easy for someone to ruin this for people by standing directly on top of the npcs, blocking your view of them. It was already annoying when people were just crowding them alone, but today there was someone intentionally standing directly on top of the female miqote npc completely blocking her from view. I had to use another NPC but wasn't as familiar with the emotes of the other races, as I'm sure is true for many unless you fantasia a lot.

This is actually my favorite of the GATEs, so it really sucked having someone screw it up like this. :(

I'm sure you can set your cycle target feature to check only for NPCs. Or at least clicking on their names.

No that isn't it, you can't see the NPC when someone is on top of it. :[ The person's model blocks out the NPC model. Unless there is some feature where clicking/tageting the NPC makes them "always on top/visible" that I'm not aware of.

I do think SE should give the NPCs some sort of pillar to stand on that players can't get on top of. That would help visibility.

I support this suggestion. There was a massive argument in one of my linkshells, sparked by someone doing this.

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Originally Posted by Kerwin

I do think SE should give the NPCs some sort of pillar to stand on that players can't get on top of. That would help visibility.

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Oh I like this idea even better.

You can view the NPC by clicking on it, which will take you into a special viewer. However, I don't like this viewer because I can' see every part of NPC as it only shows you parts of body, like when you jump from upper body to lower it skips part between upper and lower.

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Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos

You can view the NPC by clicking on it, which will take you into a special viewer. However, I don't like this viewer because I can' see every part of NPC as it only shows you parts of body, like when you jump from upper body to lower it skips part between upper and lower.

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This thread is referring to the dancing GATE on the Main Event Floor. Not the Imp in disguise GATE.

There are NPCs above that you can view if people are obscuring the grounded NPCs.

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Originally Posted by Houston009

There are NPCs above that you can view if people are obscuring the grounded NPCs.

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This. It took me several posts to realise what was being talked about, and then my response was, "Wait, there are NPCs on the ground floor during that?"

Same. I didn't notice until yesterday that there were even grounded npcs

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Originally Posted by Houston009

There are NPCs above that you can view if people are obscuring the grounded NPCs.

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This I never knew, I shall look for them next time I do the GATE. Thank you!

Yeah, some troll elf dude decided to stand on top of the catgirl npc...I've been kinda hoping they add little pedestals for the NPCs to stand on so that they're high enough as to not be blocked by the tallest players, or some kind of small barrier around each NPC so that players can't stand on top of their models.

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Originally Posted by Houston009

There are NPCs above that you can view if people are obscuring the grounded NPCs.

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This is all well and good, but some people aren't familiar with the emotes of other races and might not recognize them. There's a reason there is 1 of each race/clan about the area. I could probably use the highlander female up above from now on, as I fantasia'd from one myself, but honestly NONE of the NPCs should be able to be blocked at all in he first place. I support putting the grounded npcs in a barrier or on pillar of some kind to stop trolling like this from happening.

Honestly, I didn't even know there were NPCs on the platform, lol. I always have it zoomed out, so I just look at the NPCs above me and follow their motions. I'd just suggest doing that if you can't see the others. They can't block the ones up there :p

How about you hide Other PC Names display option? I got no issue playing Triple Triad with NPCs with that option set as is, and there are like 50 people camping the crap outta Indolent Imperial on Ragnarok lol

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Originally Posted by Hyunckel

How about you hide Other PC Names display option? I got no issue playing Triple Triad with NPCs with that option set as is, and there are like 50 people camping the crap outta Indolent Imperial on Ragnarok lol

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Hiding player names doesn't hide players... I don't see how this solves anything. The problem is that the other player is physically covering the target NPC so you cannot see the emotes they are doing.

I personally just use the platform suspended above the stage which has four NPCs up there doing the emotes as well but I wish they had one of each race up there... as a Lalafell I sometimes have no clue what emote I'm looking at because all the NPCs up above are Hyur.

even if you cant see to target then npc you can just use num pad 0 to target it.

I'm curious, after a number of times (and enough people yelling in shout chat about it) would this be considered a reportable offence? Preventing/hampering players from enjoying the game or along lines like that? There's a couple of people who were at it all day every time that GATE popped and I got to a point where I would gladly report them >.>;

I've gotten lucky with members of my fc calling out ones I couldn't see because of some asshole players (people always block the lalas and catgirls on my server).

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Originally Posted by siverstorm

would this be considered a reportable offence?

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It is definitely reportable. Anything that disrupts gameplay is banned by the ToS and a reportable offense. From the User Agreement:

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3.2 Disruption. You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players, including the disruption of Square Enix's computers and servers.

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It's right above the prohibition against using profanity in game, which is also a reportable offense.

For those who were unaware, the following are offenses that can lead to administrative actions taken against your account (warnings, jailing, temporary account ban, account deletion, etc): Profanity, using names of copyrighted characters, naming your character after a celebrity, sharing your login info with anyone*, and running your own casino in game via /random**. I'm pretty sure standing on a summoning bell can also be considered disruption of gameplay and a reportable offense. I'm certain that vote-kicking someone at the end of a dungeon so you can have a friend join in progress is reportable under the User Agreement, as that is a disruption of the game experience of another player. If not, it's still reportable for other reasons (any vote-kick abuse is confirmed to be reportable, though it's also confirmed that it's not abuse to kick someone who you just don't like, so that gets into a gray area).

* I'll bet they don't enforce that so much as use that to stop people from getting their accounts back if their ex or someone just pretending to be their friend changes their password and/or steals all their stuff

** Probably because gambling is illegal or regulated in some parts of the world

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Originally Posted by Alberel

Hiding player names doesn't hide players...

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It solves right clicking on an NPC name you need to duel for TT. I don't know what you need to see about that NPC. Wish you the best of luck.

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Originally Posted by Hyunckel

It solves right clicking on an NPC name you need to duel for TT. I don't know what you need to see about that NPC. Wish you the best of luck.

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The GATE is a simon-says game where an NPC does a series of emotes, and you have to do the same ones in the same order. There are racial NPCs on the ground and some Hyur on a platform up top. The OP is complaining that people keep purposefully standing on top of the racial NPCs on the ground preventing other people from seeing the emotes they're preforming. Yes, the OP could use the hyur NPCs up top, but hyur emotes are sometimes very different from, say, lala emotes, and it's not always clear which the NPC is preforming if you're not familiar with that race's emotes.

Please read topics before responding rather than spreading confusion. The OP clearly stated he was talking about the GATE named "The Time of My Life" and not attempting to duel someone in Triple Triad.

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Originally Posted by Kerwin

This thread is referring to the dancing GATE on the Main Event Floor. Not the Imp in disguise GATE.

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Oh, I got it confused with "Skinchange We Can Believe In." Now I'm really confused. How in the world are players standing over the NPCs when the NPCs are in the air way above the stage? I have never had any issues with this event due to players not being able to get up there. I just zoom camera out to max, then walk forward beyond the center so the cam moves right up to them.

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Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos

Oh, I got it confused with "Skinchange We Can Believe In." Now I'm really confused. How in the world are players standing over the NPCs when the NPCs are in the air way above the stage? I have never had any issues with this event due to players not being able to get up there. I just zoom camera out to max, then walk forward beyond the center so the cam moves right up to them.

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*points at post right above yours*

I made a thread about this :3 but it got buried

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ife-NPCs/page3

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Originally Posted by Crimsonforce

even if you cant see to target then npc you can just use num pad 0 to target it.

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Targeting the npc doesn't help when you have a huge male Roe in bulky armor completely blocking a smaller npc. Personally I haven't run into the issue too many times, but when I have it's been really annoying.

And even if we don't ignore the whole 'look at the npcs on the platform' solution (which isn't the best solution because even the gate suggests looking at an npc of the same race if you're having trouble), if someone does it in the middle of one of the turns, you might potentially miss out on part of the performance while moving yourself or the camera because someone decided to troll.

If you're lucky, one way that people have been working around it is to have people who know the emotes for the NPCs up on the platform call out the moves for people who might not be able to see the right character. Not the best solution, because you still have to trust the people involved, of course, but even just finding a partner who can send you a tell can help a lot. It's also a lot less fun, but it's better than nothing.

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Originally Posted by Houston009

There are NPCs above that you can view if people are obscuring the grounded NPCs.

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Yeah but there are 2 problems, at least for me.
1) The NPC on top platform in the middle are not of my race and I can't recognize all of the emotes, as I'm not familiar with them.
2) In order to see those NPCs, I have to zoom out to a certain distance, which makes them seem small on my screen, and makes it even harder to see the emotes.

You can position your character to be somewhat ahead of the floating platform and adjust the camera from there so that you get a close up on the NPCs above you.

I don't know why so many people are suggesting to use the NPCs above. It was stated more than once that some people are unfamiliar with other race's emotes, that's kind of why they have a male/female version of each race.

And this is actually a really annoying problem. One of my FCmates just unlocked the GS and this event was up so I decided to take her to it and a huge Roe male sat on top of the female Lala. I told her the moves so she did the GATE correctly, but that she was pretty discouraged by the whole thing.

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Originally Posted by Selli

I don't know why so many people are suggesting to use the NPCs above. It was stated more than once that some people are unfamiliar with other race's emotes, that's kind of why they have a male/female version of each race.

And this is actually a really annoying problem. One of my FCmates just unlocked the GS and this event was up so I decided to take her to it and a huge Roe male sat on top of the female Lala. I told her the moves so she did the GATE correctly, but that she was pretty discouraged by the whole thing.

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Well, some people might think that IF they can do it, others can do it too. They don't see it as a problem, so they suggest people to work around it. They may think we should not ask for improvement or for preventative measure. Or maybe they just didn't read carefully enough :(

Lalafells are the abused race...badly. Lalafell Lord and Lady of the Dance really do deserve an elevated area to stand or a fence around them =_=;; They have it even worse than me. (Female Miqo'te)

Should make a roe raid party in pf and storm the event stage during the time of my life gate lol.
All spamming aoes and running around covering npcs XD
If ppl can co ordinate a full raid of lalas in CT then im sure ppl can do it!

It didn't even occur to me about the lalafell npcs, those ones must be so easy to troll. :[

This GATE is my favorite but it sucks that it's easy to mess with it in this way. The NPCs up top help a bit but honestly we need ALL the nps in places like that where they can't be obscured.

Some people probably don't realise they're doing it, since some races have the NPCs on the platform, they will be in first person looking up, unaware of where the other NPC is. It should be fixed so that all the races appear up on the platform.