[DEV] I came in like a wrecking ball. The way of getting ADS Mount.

Hello all,

This thread isn't meant for complain but I'm most likely trying to find a logical (lore wise) answer to a legitimate question.

Why is the new ADS mount, a most iconic Coil of Bahamut enemy / boss, coming from a PVP (Frontline) Achievement reward? Huh?!

As a PVE player only and as a raider I have absolutely no interests into PVP. I don't have anything against PVP activities since it's a pure question of tastes but to me... an ADS mount coming from a PVP achievement is like seeing a Twintania mount coming from a crafter achievement... It is just wrong :confused:

Any thoughts?

On a side note, could we get a Twintania mount from a Coil Achievement in the future? :3 pretty please :D

And why do Warriors of Light wear bikinis and snowman heads? *shrugs* Like a lot else in this game, it's just for silly fun and isn't connected to lore. :)

Frontlines PVP features mobs and relics of allagan technology, to be quick to the point. In both modes you destroy stationary ones to get points or buffs for your GC team.

In a roundabout way, it kinda makes sense to be able to get an allagan technology mount from the matches.

Because the PVPers are actually fighting over ruins to excavate and research. Maybe we found a deactivated ADS and reactivated it.

You raiders just go into the coil and destroy everything. Did you think that blowing up the ADS would teach you anything?

Barbarians.

Frontlines has tons of Allagan tech laying all around and even has a subplot involving Omega Weapon. Did you miss that? Allagan technology definitely fits into PvP.

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Originally Posted by Alysanne

Because the PVPers are actually fighting over ruins to excavate and research. Maybe we found a deactivated ADS and reactivated it.

You raiders just go into the coil and destroy everything. Did you think that blowing up the ADS would teach you anything?

Barbarians.

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It teaches us how to make BIGGER explosions!

Logic, do you have it? xD

I though it was a joke, but...... no..... What the....?

Honestly i was hoping for something like "to clear T2 with allagan rout (no enrage)" xD

Because during your Nth match out on the Flats, you found one half-buried, dug it up, and it rebooted in some kind of config mode where it decided you were its owner.

While I'm happy to have something else to work toward in Frontlines, since I'm already level 43, I also have to agree that this is a weird reward to tie to PvP. I guess they wanted to encourage people to try it out, who wouldn't otherwise?

Though as someone who doesn't typically enjoy PvP, I really have to endorse giving Frontlines a try...it can be really fun if you get a good group, and it's also a great way to level certain kinds of desynth.

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Originally Posted by Lukha

While I'm happy to have something else to work toward in Frontlines, since I'm already level 43, I also have to agree that this is a weird reward to tie to PvP. I guess they wanted to encourage people to try it out, who wouldn't otherwise?

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That's probably why, sadly it won't push me to do PVP :p there is a reason why I did choose ffxiv and not one from the many Korean mmos with PVP at every corner.

I don't know really, Allagan ruins being part of Frontline doesn't explain why a most iconic monster as ADS isn't coming from its main content, as always raiders are left behind when it come to achievements anyway :p even The Hunt got more titles and ton of points than the Raid category.

Given the story of why the grand companies are out there fighting over those ruins, I'd say it actually makes the most sense for the ADS mount to be an achievement tied to frontlines. Honestly, if I saw the mount tied to any of the other content now, it would feel really out of place.

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Originally Posted by Alysanne

Because the PVPers are actually fighting over ruins to excavate and research. Maybe we found a deactivated ADS and reactivated it.

You raiders just go into the coil and destroy everything. Did you think that blowing up the ADS would teach you anything?

Barbarians.

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Us raiders are here trying to save Eorzea from Bahamut, and you PVPers are just running around killing each other.

Don't come running to us when your ADS mount gets upset and goes object 199 on your ass.

Barbarians.

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Originally Posted by Mutemutt

if I saw the mount tied to any of the other content now, it would feel really out of place.

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Did you ever put a single step in coil, scob and fcob? countless ADS there.

Hey, it could be yet another horse.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Hey, it could be yet another horse.

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Actually that's a very interesting point Miles, since Frontline already got an exclusive mount, adding a second seems kind of unfair for other categories.

For the OP
http://simage1.sportsmansguide.com/a.../197411_ts.jpg

But seriously though how can you comment on there being zero connection when you haven't even done PvP in this game yourself, rofl. Get outta' hereeeee. There's plenty of tie-ins to allagan technology...

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Originally Posted by Fuma

But seriously though how can you comment on there being zero connection when you haven't even done PvP in this game yourself, rofl. Get outta' hereeeee. There's plenty of tie-ins to allagan technology...

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Much Hates :x
I didn't said there was no possible justification linked, just found it very odd to see a most iconic enemy from coil dispatched as a PVP, Frontline reward only...

You know, Frontline is kind of new when it come to contents (2.3), Coil was there before ^^ and since 2.0.

But again, even being polite and educated isn't enough when talking with PVPer on a forum sadly, it's something you learn over years from many mmos.

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Originally Posted by Atomnium

Did you ever put a single step in coil, scob and fcob? countless ADS there.

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Done turns 1-11, thank you very much. But, coil starts to focus more on the past and Bahamut rather than hanging on to allagan tech

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Originally Posted by Atomnium

Much Hates :x
I didn't said there was no possible justification linked, just found it very odd to see a most iconic enemy from coil dispatched as a PVP, Frontline reward only...

You know, Frontline is kind of new when it come to contents (2.3), Coil was there before ^^ and since 2.0.

But again, even being polite and educated isn't enough when talking with PVPer on a forum sadly, it's something you learn over years from many mmos.

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How is ADS more iconic than the last 2 bosses of final coil? How could it possibly be the most iconic? It gets marginalized after the first coil into a common enemy.

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Originally Posted by Atomnium

That's probably why, sadly it won't push me to do PVP :p there is a reason why I did choose ffxiv and not one from the many Korean mmos with PVP at every corner.

I don't know really, Allagan ruins being part of Frontline doesn't explain why a most iconic monster as ADS isn't coming from its main content, as always raiders are left behind when it come to achievements anyway :p even The Hunt got more titles and ton of points than the Raid category.

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wow you sound like an extremely annoying person

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Originally Posted by Lori

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Originally Posted by Atomnium

That's probably why, sadly it won't push me to do PVP :p there is a reason why I did choose ffxiv and not one from the many Korean mmos with PVP at every corner.

I don't know really, Allagan ruins being part of Frontline doesn't explain why a most iconic monster as ADS isn't coming from its main content, as always raiders are left behind when it come to achievements anyway :p even The Hunt got more titles and ton of points than the Raid category.

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wow you sound like an extremely annoying person

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Some people are like this when they dont get their way. :D

Slightly off topic but:

Is there a way to stop the "Pet" crossbar automatically appearing when you mount this, on a gampad pad? Its REALLY annoying because in order to dismount you have to switch back to your original crossbar.
You cannot add the mount button (to actually dismount) to the pet bar that appears when you activate the mount.

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Originally Posted by Accolade

Slightly off topic but:

Is there a way to stop the "Pet" crossbar automatically appearing when you mount this, on a gampad pad? Its REALLY annoying because in order to dismount you have to switch back to your original crossbar.
You cannot add the mount button (to actually dismount) to the pet bar that appears when you activate the mount.

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I'm kind of confused by what youre asking (and it's not your fault im just trying to remember what you're describing), but:

To switch from the pet/mount hotbar to your regular hotbars and vice versa, you can just press R1 by itself.
Also, you can dismount a mount without actually pressing the mount button on your hotbar by just clicking down the right analog stick

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Originally Posted by Lori

I'm kind of confused by what youre asking (and it's not your fault im just trying to remember what you're describing), but:

To switch from the pet/mount hotbar to your regular hotbars and vice versa, you can just press R1 by itself.
Also, you can dismount a mount without actually pressing the mount button on your hotbar by just clicking down the right analog stick

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Like the magitek mount that fires weapons, Accolade doesn't want the hotbar to popup for it. I'm not sure there is a way to disable mount hotbars, though. I need to get in the game to check it out. In the interim you cAn use L1 and R1 to dismount. Or is it L2 and R2 simultaneously?

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Originally Posted by Fuma

How is ADS more iconic than the last 2 bosses of final coil? How could it possibly be the most iconic? It gets marginalized after the first coil into a common enemy.

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I'm sorry but you should learn to read better :p I didn't said "the most iconic", I said "a most iconic enemy", from many other in coil ^^.

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Originally Posted by Lori

wow you sound like an extremely annoying person

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It's funny to get totally insulted and laughed at when you started a polite and hate-free thread :). Magic of forums is magic.

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Originally Posted by Fuma

Some people are like this when they dont get their way. :D

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And that's absolutely not what you just did by coming here, trolling and tossing some lolzy pictures to someone random ? You should start applying your own suggestion to you as well.

On a side note, I may sound "extremely annoying" but at the very least, I'm polite.
Sadly, it seems to not be the case of you both.

If you want an ADS mount as well, fine. Then allow PvP to reward ilvl130 gear and ilvl135 weapons and we'll call it even.


And on a side note a ball is not very iconic....

ADS comes from FFIV though.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/C...al_Fantasy_IV)

Off-topic, but ADS would cooler if it rolled around collecting everything you come across and get bigger.

Then again, that might start the Eighth Umbral Era...hmm...

On topic, I have to lern2pvp. Always hated PvP.

The people who term yourselves hardcore raiders ALWAYS tell everyone else that if they want the best gear, then they need to raid.

I'm going to tell you the same thing. If you want this special mount, then do the content that's required to get it. It's really as simple as that.

Thanks Lori and Brian, I totally forgot there was a gamepad shortcut to dismount. (I recently switched from KB).

On a sidenote, it seems you cannot disable the mount skills hotbar, such as like you can with the pet bar. It switches to a crossbar that is separated from the R1 button so tring to tap/hold R1 doesnt work.

But if a dev reads this, it could be handy to still see your original cross bar, whilst mounted. If you really wanted to use a "vanity" skill, you can just press it on your mount/pet skills bar. It seems a waste to have it in the mount skills bar AND it overwriting every skill you have in your cross bar.

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Originally Posted by Accolade

Thanks Lori and Brian, I totally forgot there was a gamepad shortcut to dismount. (I recently switched from KB).

On a sidenote, it seems you cannot disable the mount skills hotbar, such as like you can with the pet bar. It switches to a crossbar that is separated from the R1 button so tring to tap/hold R1 doesnt work.

But if a dev reads this, it could be handy to still see your original cross bar, whilst mounted. If you really wanted to use a "vanity" skill, you can just press it on your mount/pet skills bar. It seems a waste to have it in the mount skills bar AND it overwriting every skill you have in your cross bar.

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Honestly this might be worth a dedicated post, sounds like a real issue.

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Originally Posted by Accolade

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I am at work at the moment, but I can tell you that there should be a way to change what you are describing. When I mount something that has special abilities (on PS4 btw), my pet hotbar comes up and I have to use my trackpad to initiate any of the mount's abilities.

Unless 2.5 changed this? I haven't used any mount except Enbarr in a long time.... and I could have sworn the pet hotbar coming up while mounted was default, but I could have changed it and not remembered ;)

Because I am exceptionally at bad at explaining things, and some cant use the mount to test, I will illustrate:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...pshzlqtwkq.png

This is my crossbar while I am mounted, and you are unable to add any other skills/macros to unmount ect.
The top horizontal bar is the pet/mount bar.

I was dumb in my previous post and R1 does infact swap back to your original cross bar, but why FORCE your cross bar to be wiped, for the sake of 1 rarely used skill? Pressing R1 to get back to view your crossbar, then pressing your custom mount/unmount button is just cumbersome for the amount of times you have to mount.

Lori and Brian have helped by informing me of L3 to unmount, but this could still be a small quality of life issue. I (and assume others) are super used to pressing the same custom allocated button on my pad to mount/unmount. If you are already inclined to use the L3 to unmount, this wont be an issue.

This is the first mount I have used with skills (not touched the story mount and quest for that one), so I am unsure if this is normal, but its annoying if so :p

It's not ADS, it's a Logistics System. Stay jelly if you don't want to work for it.

http://i.imgur.com/QvCcVki.jpg