Personal housing + Marriage = Issue I'm having.

Maybe I'm complaining about something that isn't much of an issue in the grand scheme of things but why is it that my personal house isn't treated as my wife's house as well since we're married in game (And out of game. I double dealed ladies and gentlemen.) It just kind of sucks that we aren't able to decorate the area together and interact with everything.

Are there any plans to change this in the future?

i hope so, there are lots of changes to Personal Housing that needs to be done though.

In terms of personal housing, this will give those who got married in game a slight advantage over those that don't wish to get married in game for housing, 1 person gathering the gil as opposed to 2 people doing it, would you call that fair with something that has a bit of availability issues for housing.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

In terms of personal housing, this will give those who got married in game a slight advantage over those that don't wish to get married in game for housing, 1 person gathering the gil as opposed to 2 people doing it, would you call that fair with something that has a bit of availability issues for housing.

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Yes, it's fair. You purchased the house, so you should be able to allow your Eternally Bound other to teleport there.

They did say that this something thats pretty easy to do, but they're worried about divorce issues (I mean if you think about it its pretty easy to prevent but there's always THAT guy/girl/person.) so it'll come down to demand. If enough people want it, it'll probably happen.

Well it was a very popular question in the thread for questions for the last live letter, plus it had lots of up votes. Well they didn't answer the question.
They did say how ever the people who work on housing are working on gold saucer right now.
Maybe once that is done they can get back to housing.
Housing has so much potential but you can not even have any extra storage right now or a armoire in there.

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Originally Posted by Nashred

Housing has so much potential but you can even have any extra storage right now or a armoire in there.

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Actually there's a craftable armoire now that you can put in your house. As for extra storage... That's what retainers are for, sadly. Also accessible from your house via a summoning bell.

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Originally Posted by Ramzal

Maybe I'm complaining about something that isn't much of an issue in the grand scheme of things but why is it that my personal house isn't treated as my wife's house as well since we're married in game (And out of game. I double dealed ladies and gentlemen.) It just kind of sucks that we aren't able to decorate the area together and interact with everything.

Are there any plans to change this in the future?

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Sign a prenuptial agreement first bro, wouldn't want you losing all your stuff. I'm joking btw

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Originally Posted by Noxifer

Actually there's a craftable armoire now that you can put in your house. As for extra storage... That's what retainers are for, sadly. Also accessible from your house via a summoning bell.

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I am talking about the Armoire that is in the inn.. There is no reason that could not be put in your house.

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Originally Posted by Everdark

They did say that this something thats pretty easy to do, but they're worried about divorce issues (I mean if you think about it its pretty easy to prevent but there's always THAT guy/girl/person.) so it'll come down to demand. If enough people want it, it'll probably happen.

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This. I think this feature is too easy to abuse by trolls. I assume your wife wouldn't troll you, but I can just see all the posts in the forums now from people complaining that the person they married is ruining their house lol.

no advantage if they gave everyone the right to set housing settings like, "allow members of friend list to tune to mini aetheryte," or "have a co-signer?" i would be careful on that last one though lol..

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Originally Posted by Nashred

I am talking about the Armoire that is in the inn.. There is no reason that could not be put in your house.

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Just like Noxifer said, there's a craftable armoire that goes into the house, which links you to the same exact armoire that is in the Inn room. 4 star carpenter craft.

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Originally Posted by Ramzal

Maybe I'm complaining about something that isn't much of an issue in the grand scheme of things but why is it that my personal house isn't treated as my wife's house as well since we're married in game (And out of game. I double dealed ladies and gentlemen.) It just kind of sucks that we aren't able to decorate the area together and interact with everything.

Are there any plans to change this in the future?

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Yes this would certainly make the reasons for bonding a lot more interesting than simply a dress and a mount. They can't even interact with FC chest, summoner bells and more.

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Originally Posted by Nashred

I am talking about the Armoire that is in the inn.. There is no reason that could not be put in your house.

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That's the same Armoire they're talking about.

It functions exactly the same.

This is something my wife and I have been waiting for since personal housing began. There should be check boxes for permissions/restrictions such as Friends, FC members, and to even enter an individual's name. This is done in many other MMOs, it really shouldn't be that hard to do.

As long as you don't have to share it. Because just like in real life, I need my own space. :p

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

That's the same Armoire they're talking about.

It functions exactly the same.

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Thank you...!
I didn't know that...

I would think THIS thread is the biggest hold up to implementing something like that...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...212237-Divorce...

Yoshi said they're looking into it at one of the fan fests.

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Originally Posted by Everdark

but they're worried about divorce issues .

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Meh. It should work the same as FCs. Once you donate/put down an item in a FC house there's a chance you'll never get it back. It's up to the FC leader(the owner) if they give it back to you. So if you're eternally bond to someone but not the original owner of the house(the character who bought it), it's your risk to put something in it. Might not be fair but the system is already in the game.

When I proposed this idea before, someone once said "well what if you put your gil together to buy the house?" Once again, it'll be your risk to take. If you're not the one who gets to purchase it you might lose it. Simple as that. You can take the same risk in a FC already by donating gil to purchase a house.

I think this is a very valid question. It's just silly you can't!
I don't feel there is any imbalance if 2 people can acquire more than one, it's like saying "Why can an FC acquire more than 1 person!?", well the answer is so obvious it's silly.

In regards to divorces, there could be a system where both have to accept an agreement to split and destroy the house. That is more than fair.

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Originally Posted by Elazu

Yoshi said they're looking into it at one of the fan fests.

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Oh, I had no idea. I should have looked more into that earlier then. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Kasathar

In regards to divorces, there could be a system where both have to accept an agreement to split and destroy the house. That is more than fair.

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That I'd never agree to because I bought and decorated my entire house(it's at max items both indoor and outdoor). There is no way in hell I'd risk that much of a gil loss just to allow my parter access to my house. Never. Ever.

They just need to align it similar to have the FC house works. The person whom bought it is the owner, and can give permissions about what can and cannot be done to the house by other residents. The bond partner would be considered a resident so they can teleport there and access whatever was permitted by the owner. If the owner decides to remove a resident it's no different than an FC leader removing an FC member in regards to the house.

This is pretty much what I want, and honestly I wouldn't be opposed to allowing this sharing scheme to all personal home owners to do whatever they want. Be it roomates, de facto linkshell guilds, role play, etc.

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Originally Posted by AkashiXI

Yes, it's fair. You purchased the house, so you should be able to allow your Eternally Bound other to teleport there.

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No logic provided, you are not even weighing the cons against this, why should those who dont want to get married be at a disadvantage to those that do, 2 vs 1 here in terms of gil aquisition.

Please provide actual detail reasoning instead of that trash.

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Originally Posted by Kasathar

In regards to divorces, there could be a system where both have to accept an agreement to split and destroy the house. That is more than fair.

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That doesn't seem very fair to me if one person bought the house then chose to share it.

Yeah, no. I just wouldn't be sharing my house.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

In terms of personal housing, this will give those who got married in game a slight advantage over those that don't wish to get married in game for housing, 1 person gathering the gil as opposed to 2 people doing it, would you call that fair with something that has a bit of availability issues for housing.

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This has been happening long before marriage. I know some that started their own FC so they as a couple in game could own a house.

Anyway you say that its 2 v 1 for people who don't wanta get married in earning money since when does owning a house earn you money. I understand it if you sell the house it'll earn money but then the owner would be getting the money not the person who shares the house. So I think this 2 v 1 is in valid.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

No logic provided, you are not even weighing the cons against this, why should those who dont want to get married be at a disadvantage to those that do, 2 vs 1 here in terms of gil aquisition.

Please provide actual detail reasoning instead of that trash.

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I can think of 1 thing to say here... irony.

There is no disadvantage that is not already in game. 2 vs 1 gil acquisition.... lol.... really?

Me and my wife pooled both of our money so she could purchase the house in the 1st place on release. It's the same idea as with guilds asking members to pool their money together to purchase a guild house except you and your spouse have the same access as an FC, just with 2 people instead.

People already have FC's with 1 or 2 people and if those 1 or 2 people can afford a house... what's the difference. You are going to complain that couples should not be able to share a house when all you need is 1 person in an FC with enough money (and timing) to own a house. heck, if that person played the marketboards at all they may have enough money for 2 or even 3 houses which they could own using multiple accounts. It takes 30 seconds to make a trade with money.

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Originally Posted by Rhas

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Yea that's what we did was pool our money together, now I have a house, garden, stable, mender etc. I can not use.
But what I think what Raelgun is saying in a very hostile way is why should it be limited to those married, why cant it be couple or roommates or something similar?

I wish we could have a 'personal fc' type deal, where we can give guess access or moving items perms to people on our friendslist or in a certain group. Not creating a FC entirely for your friends, since friends often have different interests (rping, pve, pvp, etc) and may want to be in a guild tailored more to their playstyle, but also be able to share their personal houses.
I really hope it is /not/ just to the bonded partner. The subdivisions and new wards are already terribly underpopulated due to the amount of personal housing. If every person who owned a house was able to invite 100 people to share their personal house (A bit less than a FC), these wards would become much more populated and social, and not feel like a ghost town.

At this point I would really prefer the housing to be personally instanced, since then I would know it was just supposed to be me/who I invited over, and not this ghost town that feels like the server is dead (which it is not) and is a bit eerie o.o

It should be allowed!