Rogue/Ninja: Mug Issue

Just to note: I do not want to place this in the Bug Forum because I am not sure if it's actually bugged or I am incredibly unlucky.

When I hit 50 on Ninja about a week into the patch, I farmed mobs to test the effectiveness of Mug and its loot ability. I was rather successful as I would get about 3/10 additional loots from Mug with Kiss of the Wasp up.

Since then, I've noticed Mug not stealing (making sure I did NOT have Kiss of the Viper up). I've tried with and without buffs up, low level mobs, same level mobs and I cannot get Mug to proc again. I've tried for days and no additional loot.

Am I extremely unlucky or is anyone else experiencing this?

I haven't any issues with it, from what I can tell.

Sounds like it's as intended.

Kiss of the viper: Changes the additional effect for Mug to absorb 50% of damage as HP.

Changes, not adds. So the additional effect of extra loot gets replaced by the HP drain.

As thief in 8-bit theatre says in the last panel here:

http://v.cdn.nuklearpower.com/comics...ter/010311.jpg

"or" not "and".

Anyway, if you're just out farming mobs why use kiss of the viper? Don't need the HP drain, and on mobs with defensive buffs it's better to start off with a stun.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Sounds like it's as intended.

Kiss of the viper: Changes the additional effect for Mug to absorb 50% of damage as HP.

Changes, not adds. So the additional effect of extra loot gets replaced by the HP drain.

As thief in 8-bit theatre says in the last panel here:

http://v.cdn.nuklearpower.com/comics...ter/010311.jpg

"or" not "and".

Anyway, if you're just out farming mobs why use kiss of the viper? Don't need the HP drain, and on mobs with defensive buffs it's better to start off with a stun.

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Yeah, except that he specifically said he did not have Kiss of the Viper up.

Oh, well nvm then.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Oh, well nvm then.

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OWNED! *airhorns* roflcopter

Edit: i am not serious. Love 8-bit theater btw. <3

Just an update:

I've been farming outside Wineport (where I've had procs before) in between queues tonight and I ended after about 2-3 hours of testing.

To be completely clear, I had no buffs up at all. I had 0 Mug procs. Can anyone else chime in that has had success recently?

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Originally Posted by Pers

Just an update:

I've been farming outside Wineport (where I've had procs before) in between queues tonight and I ended after about 2-3 hours of testing.

To be completely clear, I had no buffs up at all. I had 0 Mug procs. Can anyone else chime in that has had success recently?

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Your ninja license has been revoked. Please return your katanas, your throwing daggers, and your hatsubiri to the nearest Doma representative...

Seriously though, that's weird. I'll do some testing when I get home tonight, but I've never had a problem with getting mug to proc, as far as I can remember.

I am experiencing the same problem when I use Mug without either of the kisses turned on or with just Kiss of the Wasp turned on. In other-words I was getting mug procs for the first week or so, but ever since I have gotten absolutely no Mug Procs whatsoever.

That said the Mug ability appears to be working properly when I have Kiss of the Viper turned on, as such I have taken to just using Kiss of the Viper as the self-heal is actually very good when soloing, and even in dungeons on occasion.

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Originally Posted by ShaolinMike

Your ninja license has been revoked. Please return your katanas, your throwing daggers, and your hatsubiri to the nearest Doma representative...

Seriously though, that's weird. I'll do some testing when I get home tonight, but I've never had a problem with getting mug to proc, as far as I can remember.

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Haha, very funny ;) Let me know if you find anything!

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Originally Posted by Tharian

I am experiencing the same problem when I use Mug without either of the kisses turned on or with just Kiss of the Wasp turned on. In other-words I was getting mug procs for the first week or so, but ever since I have gotten absolutely no Mug Procs whatsoever.

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This bug isn't game breaking for me, but it's a nice little mechanic I enjoy using in my off time. I wish we had more users testing this and giving feedback. Thanks for your reply!

i realize this is probably asking a dumb question but you are aiming to get the killing blow with Mug right?

EDIT: after re-reading the tooltip, it will only proc when loot drops normaly as well as meeting the killing blow requirement, which i remember taking noticing when i got the skill to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Zamii

i realize this is probably asking a dumb question but you are aiming to get the killing blow with Mug right?

EDIT: after re-reading the tooltip, it will only proc when loot drops normaly as well as meeting the killing blow requirement, which i remember taking noticing when i got the skill to begin with.

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None of what you have said is true. It neither needs to be the killshot or even close and I've seen plenty of times with just the "additional loot mugged" message being the only loot.

I assumed it was the killing blow as well, apart from the 1-2 times I got additional loot the first few days I had it... I've had nothing since, me thinks 2.41 changed something...

I've gotten exactly one extra loot from Mug in the time I've gotten Rogue to 40.

I'm not sure how many times I've gotten extra loot via mug as I really haven't been paying that much attention to it...till today.

Used it several times today (not sure how many times...wasn't counting), largely to test, I did, in fact, get a mug proc. Once. So it IS working...just...really sucky rate, it seems.

Thank you all for your replies. I did some more testing this weekend! I tested a whole bunch of mugs with and without the Wasp buff. I actually got it to work!

I tested Mug for a few hours with/without the buff (I didn't count the number of times). Without the buff I mug proc'd 0 times. With the buff, I proc'd 3 times.

Take that for what it's worth; it's just a very low chance, especially in comparison to a few weeks back I was getting 3/10 kills with procs. RNG

It's an useless add effect... the proc is very low.

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Originally Posted by Pers

Thank you all for your replies. I did some more testing this weekend! I tested a whole bunch of mugs with and without the Wasp buff. I actually got it to work!

I tested Mug for a few hours with/without the buff (I didn't count the number of times). Without the buff I mug proc'd 0 times. With the buff, I proc'd 3 times.

Take that for what it's worth; it's just a very low chance, especially in comparison to a few weeks back I was getting 3/10 kills with procs. RNG

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It almost seems like Mug somehow got broken when they were doing patches / hotfixes. It's to the point where it's almost "pre-2.4 atma drop rate" low. I did some testing for about an hour with no buffs up and got ZERO procs on Saturday.