Hey guys,
Just wondering if anyone else is getting frustrated with only being able to trade a million gil at a time, or the fact that you can only have 20 items at a time in your delivery box?
As an avid crafter and with the release of 2.4, I've frequently had to make trades for more than a million gil where either myself or the person I'm trading with have had to a take a leap of faith by either trading an item for a partial amount of gil (then repeating a bunch of 1 million gil trades) or vice versa. So far I haven't had a problem with anyone stealing anything, but it is rather annoying that something that should be one transaction turns out being 4 or 5.
Also for the mailbox, I'd love to have a backlog of stuff to craft for people but as it stands you can only accept a total of 20 items in your box at a time which is basically 4 letters. People keep complaining that my mailbox is full :D I could take them all out and throw them in a retainer, but it is much easier to keep track of who sent what when they're stored as letters in my delivery box.
I realize these measures are in place to disrupt RMT, but it seems to me like SE is going a little too far with this to the point that it affects regular players. In my opinion I don't think the pros outweigh the cons, and I hope SE will consider increasing the cap on both.
1 Million Gil Trade Cap, Delivery Box Limit
Printable View
-
11-05-2014, 12:19 AMchrillix1 Million Gil Trade Cap, Delivery Box Limit
-
11-05-2014, 12:22 AMKimura410
i agree its pretty dumb. i sold a whole set to a guy the other day for like 20 mil and he didnt mind giving me the money up front but still,someone could really get ripped off like this. im sure SE has a reason and its RMT involved, but i dont see the difference in trading or just throwing a dummy item up on mb for 50 mil and having someone buy it
-
11-05-2014, 12:58 AMchrillix
Yeah other than the tax you would save by trading, it accomplishes the exact same thing.
-
11-05-2014, 01:04 AModintius
Unfortunately SE over fear of RMT's is holding allot of things back in this game either way we get a negitive impact to the legit players.
-
11-05-2014, 01:21 AMDoki
I agree it's dumb and doesn't really stop anything RMT related. The MB tax on high gil items really hurts and it would be easy for someone to run off after the first gil trade on a high priced item. Sure you can report them and possibly get it worked out but terrible way to go about it.
-
11-05-2014, 01:27 AMGralna
Hmm, measure on subscription accounts to prevent RMT activities...
1 million gil trade limit
20 item inbox limit
No alt character trading
No shared bank
Result.... http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...en-world-Bots.
Yea, really seems to working... /sarcasm -
11-05-2014, 01:32 AMHakuroDK
This is an imperfect solution until SE manages to fix this issue, but how about buying Allagan Coins off the Market Board to bypass the gil limit? Sure, there's sales tax involved, but would that help?
For 20 million gil, that would amount to approximately 8000 Allagan Gold Pieces, which sell for 2500 each, which would amount to... almost 81 full stacks, by which the item inbox limit is 20 stacks.
Erm... thought this was a good idea until I crunched the numbers. Shutting up now. -
11-05-2014, 02:12 AMLoveliss
Must be nice to have this problem...
-
11-05-2014, 02:14 AMCorfishSeriously, I can't even imagine being inconvenienced because I have to trade in chunks of millions of gil...Quote:
Originally Posted by Loveliss
-
11-05-2014, 03:08 AMchrillixThat was another reason these restrictions seem out of place. Since SE seems to be so lackluster at dealing with RMT, why put things in place that affect regular players and barely help to prevent RMT when you refuse to go after people blatantly exploiting for months on end? Seems extremely backwards to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gralna
-
11-05-2014, 05:14 AMSakuralunaI think the big issue is that it doesn't take much to have this problem. If you have over 1 mil gil and eventually plan to spend on an item or set of items, or if you have 1m+ and plan to server transfer, then you have the potential to wind up in a situation where this could effect you. Even if you don't have much, because 1m in this game really isn't all that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loveliss
It's something that I do wish they'd up to at least 2 or 3 mil to give legit players a little more wiggle room. 1m is an insanely low cap, even though I can understand why they set it up that way. -
11-05-2014, 05:17 AMNyarukoW
How can this even be a real problem? Put the item on the MB for your gazillion gil and have the buyer go get it off the MB. Be in the right city and there is not even any tax issues. It is not like anyone would try to steal the item off the MB for gazillion gil, and if they do the seller doesn't lose, still go the gazillions. The buyer might be bummed, but they didn't lose their gil. Done and done.
-
11-05-2014, 05:28 AMEllatrix
There are 2 taxes on the MB - one for the buyer if not in home nation, and one for the seller no matter what.
It is a real problem when the flat material cost for the new i110 items is up to 2m. Just because you're poor as dirt doesn't mean plenty of other people have figured out how to make gil and deal with this inconvenience every day.
I might just see about using the company chest to do gil transfers now since there is no limit on that, but that's only a solution for inside the FC or between your own characters (if they are in the same FC). -
11-05-2014, 05:42 AMAshkendorHonestly, it's probably just as much that it's a gil sink, i.e. not wanting people to circumvent MB fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrillix
-
11-05-2014, 11:25 AMOoshimaQuote:
Originally Posted by NyarukoW
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellatrix
If we use MB then the 5% seller tax would be passed on to the buyer. A full set of IL110 gear would cost over 10m, and 5% of 10m itself is half a million. You realize how much gil is saved?
And of course, carry sales. Like it or not, it is not prohibited by the game, so again this transaction is legit. The amount transacted are in tens to hundreds million gil... -
11-05-2014, 12:39 PMNutz
I thought the 1 million limit was sensible when the game was launched. Most players hit 50 with 250k or so I think. Even then the 1 million limit is a bit low, but at the time new gil came overwhelmingly from non repeatable quests and enemies in dungeons didn't drop gil (though chests had tin and maybe bronze allagan coins). With the amount of gil that they've pumped into the system these limits are absurdly low.
I dabble in crafting and gathering (have a single forager tool/ hat and no artisan items) and do almost no spirit bonding or other specific money making endeavors, but I've managed to buy a small house and have 4 million or so gil (and at least another 2-3 million in materials). The point is, anyone actually trying to craft seriously (or run a merc service/ what have you) will come up against these limits all the time.
I'm not suggesting that these limits be completely abolished outright, but it could easily be a veteran perk that RMT 'players' would never reach. -
11-06-2014, 12:20 AMchrillixI agree that the million trade limit wasn't as big of a deal at 2.0 launch as it was now, and I agree that since they have been pumping gil into the system it makes sense for them to raise the cap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nutz
I would also be open to some kind of requirement per player that would allow them to exceed this cap. Although finding something that legit players could easily obtain while RMT couldn't may be tough. I would recommend days subbed, but all the bots I see on a regular basis don't seem to be getting banned at all :mad: