Job lvl 55 -60 Stories

So this question just popped in my head...

Do you think SE can develop a proper story to continue where each Job Story left off with only lvl 51-60 as their level limit for the Job Storyline in 3.0.

Currently in 2.0 era the Jobs have lvl 30-50 for their story which is a lot more room that allowed them to build the story up for the Boss fight and Arc 1 story conclusion at their lvl 50 Job story compared to lvl 51-60 for the next part of the Job storyline.

I'd honestly be okay if they spent those resources into a better main scenario experience.

Less fetch-questing, more grandeur, more heroism.

To answer your question, I think they could do a good job.

There were only 6 quests per job on average. They could easily make 6 more quests distributed through 10 levels. They could also do one really involved quest. The 10 levels really has no baring their creativity.

I don't so much see them continuing the Job storylines as much both class and Job storylines. Remember, Jobs aren't leveled, they are equipped. Classes are leveled. As such, it's the classes that will be getting the most attention. More abilities, more traits, more cross-class slots. With the level cap raising only 10 levels we'll likely see two class quests and one Job quest. This is because Job abilities take up a cross-class slot and the classes will only be getting two more if the pattern holds. Would be rather limiting if your Job took up both slots.

The Job Quests tend to all have a solid ending to them. If anything, they would probably end up being completely new story arcs. However, it is also possible that the NPC trainers from the original Job Quests end up returning, or the Job quests happen with new NPCs, but it is the Soul Crystal itself that grants the knowledge of new abilities rather than some NPC.

I am honestly very excited for what 3.0 will bring!

If nothing else, I trust SE to tell me a good story.

Rather than continuing or adding to the job stories, though, I'd like to see them revisit the class storylines a bit...I need more Hamon Holyfist in my life, and I feel like Lancer storyline may have left a thread or two dangling...

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

The Job Quests tend to all have a solid ending to them. If anything, they would probably end up being completely new story arcs. However, it is also possible that the NPC trainers from the original Job Quests end up returning, or the Job quests happen with new NPCs, but it is the Soul Crystal itself that grants the knowledge of new abilities rather than some NPC.

I am honestly very excited for what 3.0 will bring!

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Well each Job story end with the the Job trainers saying they will be returning in the next Job quests along with small hints to what may happen in the next Job Story Arc.

Such as the Warrior Job story, for example, with the little girl and Curious Gorge's Brother.

I would use the Ninja Job story ending as a example but that will be spoling the new Ninja Job Story :p

My guesses:

Clearing them will get you your AF2.

Paladin will focus on the continued search for Oathkeeper.
Dragoon will focus on the divide between Dragons and men and Nidhogg's relationship with the Blue Dragoon.

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Originally Posted by Lukha

If nothing else, I trust SE to tell me a good story.

Rather than continuing or adding to the job stories, though, I'd like to see them revisit the class storylines a bit...I need more Hamon Holyfist in my life, and I feel like Lancer storyline may have left a thread or two dangling...

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a continuation of the class story would be great in my book since there are so many questions left behind after our character graduates from the class guild. I hope SE creates a Class Guild Chronicle Quests as a future content to show how the class guilds have developed during our character's absence in the guild's activities like they did with the Beast Tribe Story with the Allied Beast Tribe Chronicles covering how each Beast Tribe is handling things after we helped them with their goals.

Not to mention it would be fun and interesting seeing all the Class Guildmasters and Guild friends our character met team up together in a battle.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

My guesses:

Clearing them will get you your AF2.

Paladin will focus on the continued search for Oathkeeper.
Dragoon will focus on the divide between Dragons and men and Nidhogg's relationship with the Blue Dragoon.

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Ya AF2 is expect but it the matter of incorporating a lore reason why our character obtained the AF2 with it being consistent with the Job Story for Arc 2.

I don't see BLM getting continued that much, considering the Red Lala is dead...Or would the 3 beastmen who helped you assist you further?

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Originally Posted by Lukha

and I feel like Lancer storyline may have left a thread or two dangling...

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I know of a certain crazy healer that did the same thing. I can get behind this.

I want the continue sch questline to turn my character to a tomberry

I would imagine some of them being continued/ use the same job teacher(s)

- WHM: pretty sure they'll have the padjal siblings teach you more spells. Unless there's a runaway Padjal out in North

- BLM: The only person in BLM attire + a stardust rod(?) is currently in the temple, so it could be him

- SCH: Surito Carito is better and so are the tonberries. So he could teach us more, or work with Alka Zolka

- BRD: It was said that moogles give worthy people BRD souls stones/ attire, so there are probably alot more BRDs lurking throughout Eorzea. Probably one is Ishgard?

- MNK: We might bump into the MNK (forgot his name) and he'll hopefully teach us more skills since he should have calmed the hell down and offer us more traditional MNK quests in the mountains of Ishgard

-NIN: Possible that it could be Yugiri; she did say she plans on teaching us and its pretty much confirmed that gotta complete the MSQ to 2.55 in order to access Ishgard and perhaps the new contents

-DRG: great potential since it can be very closely related to the 3.0 plots. Otherwise, there's plenty of Dragoons in Ishgard that could teach us more skills

-WAR: Possible there could be a WAR living out near/in Ishgard as a mercenary. But it makes more sense that Curious Gorge and brother will teach us more since they're currently trying to decipher the warrior scrolls of their village.

-PLD: I think we're through with Jenlyns and Ul'dah. I believe we'll be taught by Solkzagyl since he is out traveling the world looking for whoever took the sword and was master of Jenlyns

I remember seeing something about the new quests being every 2 levels, instead of every 5, and also that AF2 won't be from the Job quests (but won't be too hard to get). Might have been that Famitsu interview? Yoshida says a lot more when he doesn't have to go through an interpreter.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

Clearing them will get you your AF2.

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I believe it was mentioned in one of the PAX interviews that the AF2 gear wouldn't be obtained from class/job quests, but would be easy to get.

great...af2 will either be obtainable from tomes or worse: crafting

Well it would be interesting if
PLD learn new skill directly from Thancred
BLM learn new skill directly from Papalymo
MNK learn new skill directly from Yda (i don't expect much from her really..)
NIN learn new skill directly from Yugiri
SMN learn new skill directly from Urianger
SCH learn new skill directly from Alphinaud/Alisaie
WHM learn new skill directly from Y'shtola

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Originally Posted by Kahnom

Well it would be interesting if
PLD learn new skill directly from Thancred
BLM learn new skill directly from Papalymo
MNK learn new skill directly from Yda (i don't expect much from her really..)
NIN learn new skill directly from Yugiri
SMN learn new skill directly from Urianger
SCH learn new skill directly from Alphinaud/Alisaie
WHM learn new skill directly from Y'shtola

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Why would Thancred have any gladiator/Paladin abilities? It's been shown (in both 1.0 and 2.0) that he's not a gladiator. Never once has he used gladiator abilities, but rather nebulous abilities that didn't get 'explained' until the Leviathan story quests. Yes, he has carried a dagger for the whole of his existence... even after they were reclassified prior to the rogue/Ninja update. If he was a gladiator he'd have had the dagger replaced with a sword following the dagger reclassification.

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Originally Posted by Ryans

They could easily make 6 more quests distributed through 10 levels.

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Considering that Yoshida said leveling from 50 to 60 will "take a lot longer" then previous levels, I can see it possible for job quests to occur every two levels in the future.

EDIT: Also, to those who don't think there'll be quests, they DID confirm job quests will be taken from where they left off at 50.

read somewhere that level 52 is the first class quest in expansion so hoping its every 2 levels but more likely gonna be 52 -55- 58 60 or somethin maybe only even 3 52-56-60 :( i quite like the class quests story lines in saying that alchemist 1 was kinda sad lol

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

I don't so much see them continuing the Job storylines as much both class and Job storylines. Remember, Jobs aren't leveled, they are equipped. Classes are leveled. As such, it's the classes that will be getting the most attention. More abilities, more traits, more cross-class slots. With the level cap raising only 10 levels we'll likely see two class quests and one Job quest. This is because Job abilities take up a cross-class slot and the classes will only be getting two more if the pattern holds. Would be rather limiting if your Job took up both slots.

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But don't forget, the new jobs won't have classes~ So there will likely be some sort of change.

Either they won't give us new job quests at 55-60 OR they will just give us job quests every 2 levels instead.

2 quests alone isn't enough to provide a decent story imo..

They could change it into every 2 levels one quest or the lenght of the quest is alot longer like level 55 quest = level 30,35 and 40. The level 60 quest has the lenght of level 45 and level 50. There are ways to give them proper storylines.

I just will assume there will be a new arc that starts with level 55 that won't be completed until level 90 (whenever we get there).

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Originally Posted by myahele

great...af2 will either be obtainable from tomes or worse: crafting

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or drop from first lv60 dungeon

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

I don't so much see them continuing the Job storylines as much both class and Job storylines. Remember, Jobs aren't leveled, they are equipped. Classes are leveled.

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Class storyline end with lv30.
And jobs are quested before you can equip it. Not only the stone, but also the skills. A class storyline would not give you job skills, while you earn class skills with just level ups.

I'm pretty sure I saw in an interview from Pax East Yoshi P mention the a Job quest at level 52. That would make sense as they can do a reasonable chain if the quests are every 2 levels.

As BLM i really have the feeling that our job quest is over but who knows. They still can make a twisted scenario to continue it a bit

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

I don't so much see them continuing the Job storylines as much both class and Job storylines. Remember, Jobs aren't leveled, they are equipped. Classes are leveled. As such, it's the classes that will be getting the most attention. More abilities, more traits, more cross-class slots. With the level cap raising only 10 levels we'll likely see two class quests and one Job quest.

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Except that we didn't have any class quest past lvl30.
And actually, we had 6 class quests : lvl1, lvl5, lvl10, lvl15, lvl20, lvl25, lvl30 and...6 jobs quests lvl30, lvl35, lvl40, lvl45, lvl45, lvl50

Way to quote a 5 month old post, well before any info on Heavensward was released. But I guess I should explain seeing as people take offense at the idea of classes getting any attention outside of 'make into a Job'. The reason I believed that the classes would get more quests, outside of the fact that they are the mechanic providing our levels, is because their stories never really ended. What happened to that lancer that was so full of himself as to call you the neophyte when he was the one lacking? How's the alchemist lalafell brother doing after having been possessed for so long (I never finished that questline). What about the feuding archers, sure they may have made amends but are they still working together? The Job quests, on the other hand, have definitive ends. You stopped the prior Dragoon before he could do real harm, you helped the Godsbow fight his personal demons and in turn find his song again, you saved the world from an elemental apocalypse. You know, ends. Where do you go from that? It's a very tricky thing to continue a story from an end, it could turn out great or more often than not it could be spectacularly bad.

Whatever the case may be, I certainly hope the devs steer WAY clear of any ideas involving treasure coffers in dungeons for the new uniforms.

I can see 5 story quests being available. If the AF2 is to be crafted or a token is required to purchase such an NPC service, those items/tokens may be part of the quest series. I could also see an AF2 waist piece being part of a drop set in [insert non-hardcore raid here].

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

Way to quote a 5 month old post, well before any info on Heavensward was released. But I guess I should explain seeing as people take offense at the idea of classes getting any attention outside of 'make into a Job'. The reason I believed that the classes would get more quests, outside of the fact that they are the mechanic providing our levels, is because their stories never really ended. What happened to that lancer that was so full of himself as to call you the neophyte when he was the one lacking? How's the alchemist lalafell brother doing after having been possessed for so long (I never finished that questline). What about the feuding archers, sure they may have made amends but are they still working together? The Job quests, on the other hand, have definitive ends. You stopped the prior Dragoon before he could do real harm, you helped the Godsbow fight his personal demons and in turn find his song again, you saved the world from an elemental apocalypse. You know, ends. Where do you go from that? It's a very tricky thing to continue a story from an end, it could turn out great or more often than not it could be spectacularly bad.

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Some of each of the Job/Class quests could go either way. Funny you mentioned DRG, though - of all the job quests, that one seemed the most open-ended to me. You may have stopped the rogue dragoon, but you didn't capture him, and it was not at all clear that he was killed. He may still be at large. (As for the full-of-himself lancer from the LNC quests, well, he did fall off a cliff and was presumed dead, but of course no body was found...)

Anyway, if we're getting a class quest every two levels, that's fine and dandy - but does make me fearful of how much grinding it will take for each level post-50 in order to ensure the quests are properly spaced apart. I'd much prefer we keep the every-five-levels pattern (and for level grinding to remain no longer than what it was), but make the quests longer and more involved to make up the difference. Perhaps have an initial quest at 50, as well.

Dont worry, old man Maat will be there.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

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Speaking of that Rogue Dragoon, you'll notice he makes a small cameo appearance in the 2.5 Part 2 Main Scenario section of 2.5 trailer looking at Ishgard with a dead Dragon behind him.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Speaking of that Rogue Dragoon, you'll notice he makes a small cameo appearance in the 2.5 Part 2 Main Scenario section of 2.5 trailer looking at Ishgard with a dead Dragon behind him.

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It would be nice to see if he gets a role in MSQ. Otherwise, I doubt that's him. We do know there are alot of dragoons in Ishgard and he may already be tempered by Nidhogg. It'll be interesting to see how much the Drg job quest will tie into Heavensward, if at all

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Originally Posted by Toodles

Less fetch-questing

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I hate these quests. They drive me completely nuts running back and fourth for hours on end. I'm one of those people who doesn't care about watching the main scenario cutscenes, so I esc through everything and do it as fast as possible.

All communication has been that there will be as much content in 3.0 as there was in 2.0. That would mean (hopefully) that 3.0 brings us 5 new Job abilities that we quest for and 3-4 new class abilities at least.

They keep mentioning that our rotations might change for dps, etc, so I'm assuming we are going to get a good chunk of abilities.