Duty Finder Woes

So i like 98% of you are leveling rogue. And its fun i like it reminds me of THF in some ways . Execpt for how sneek attack is done in front and not in back same for TA its in back and not front . But let me get back on point . Anyone else having DF ques way WAY to long ? I was in a que for low level daily roulette on rogue and had no pops and no one was joing not even a DPS . I switched to bard and had a 9min pop and it had 2 DPS and a healer so i backed out because i want to level rogue. And it was the same 1 hour plus and never qued and never added anyone . Fate grinding blows . But more over if DF is random then why was it not including anyone in it while on rogue?

If you're BRD is higher level, it will have a wider pool of dungeons to pull from that may have people qued up for it.

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Originally Posted by Sandoria

If you're BRD is higher level, it will have a wider pool of dungeons to pull from that may have people qued up for it.

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This. Plus Ranged dps and Melee dps queues are separate.

Aye , my bard is IL109. But again not even one DPS was in my que when i was qued on rogue. Tank 0/1 healer 0/1 DPS 1/2 never 2/2 just found that odd.

It's the separation of melee and ranged that causes your problem. Queue on ROG and you're in line with a million of them. Each time a ranged DPS queues up they get in as the DF will prioritize a melee/ranged combo over double melee even if the next melee has been waiting longer in the queue.

You know when I finally got into Sastasha... Our tank showed up in his Yukata and a Weathered Axe... The healer had more HP than he did. So we tanked it as rogues... healer had no real troubles... It really is time to at least open up the lower dungeons to different party make ups. We didn't even rage the tank... as a matter of fact had a good conversation with him. Just happy to finally get in a dungeon.

Considering below level 30 anyone can put cure, physick and second wind on their bar.
Also considering the fact that anyone who happens to be a new player will not stick to a game where their first 3 instances take a ridiculous amount of time to queue.

At least let people have a choice "Traditional Set-up" or "Any Setup"

They can't do that...that would completely segregate the DF queues as you would not be able to put "Traditional" and "Any" in the same pool, making the queues for each type all that much longer. This is what the Party Finder is for. You'd be surprised how fast a 4-man can fill up on the PF even for unusual party makeups. Heck ask your FC/LS mates. Be social. The Duty Finder needs to be as general as possible or the queue time problems just get worse.

PF is genius... thanks for the tip.

Been in the DF for 4 hours. I am le sad...

Yah, people should not be expecting anything short of hours in duty finder. Everyone is having the same idea as you. "Level rogue". Its not too surprising, its the new job. when DRK is released, a lot of people will try it, and we'll probably see a shortage of healers.

That said, Party finder is actually a good way. If you can find 3 DD and a healer you could probably do most every low level dungeon no problem, otherwise, ask your friends or shout/yell/etc with PF up. Most people will be FATE grinding of course because again... everyones ROG just like you XD

Folks on my server have been reporting lots of success running low level dungeons like Sastasha, Tam Tara, and Copperbell as full parties of four Rogues. Give it a try! As of last night, there were roughly sixty Rogues camped outside of the entrance to Sastasha, so I'll bet you'll find a lot of volunteers if you want to organize a run.

I wouldn't expect later dungeons will be as kind, but early dungeons can be cleared by almost any combination of classes.

Just had to repost, sorry. Top this queue time.
http://i.imgur.com/32RvCeZ.png

I'm just hoping things will smooth over in a few days, unrealistic as that might be.

Inb4 "ur all bads reroll tankz and heelerz nubs"

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Originally Posted by BlaiseArath

Yah, people should not be expecting anything short of hours in duty finder. Everyone is having the same idea as you. "Level rogue". Its not too surprising, its the new job. when DRK is released, a lot of people will try it, and we'll probably see a shortage of healers.

That said, Party finder is actually a good way. If you can find 3 DD and a healer you could probably do most every low level dungeon no problem, otherwise, ask your friends or shout/yell/etc with PF up. Most people will be FATE grinding of course because again... everyones ROG just like you XD

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DRK is being released concurrently with a healing class, so odds are the problems we're seeing with Ninja (that were predicted the day the class was announced) will never happen again.

Seriously complaining about rouge/ninja queue times in a patch where the only new job released was a dps class. /facepalm. Anyone who has any ability for logical thinking would have been able to come to that conclusion without even trying. Go do fates and stop making the DF worse for everyone else.

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Originally Posted by Koroem

Seriously complaining about rouge/ninja queue times in a patch where the only new job released was a dps class. /facepalm. Anyone who has any ability for logical thinking would have been able to come to that conclusion without even trying. Go do fates and stop making the DF worse for everyone else.

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I'm an LNC, though. Can I complain too?

It will be great being able to register to low roulette with a party. If this haven't done because the scope of low roulette is helping new players, making it possible with an incomplete party still suffice.

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Originally Posted by DarkRain

Aye , my bard is IL109.

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He meant level, not item level. If you're higher level, you have more access to unlocked dungeons, while rogues/ninjas are probably below lv30 and have access to way less dungeons in a roulette.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

It will be great being able to register to low roulette with a party. If this haven't done because the scope of low roulette is helping new players, making it possible with an incomplete party still suffice.

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People rouletting for tomes would start premaking, removing potential solo queued healers and tanks from the pool, making queue times worse not better.

It does not change anything. A party require a tank and an healer anyway, if they are friends or not, it does not make a difference. The solo tank will be put with another solo healer and other two solo DPS. Both ways, 4 players are out the queue.

The only who profit, is the DPS friend of tank or healer, that jumps on the instapop road and go ahead another solo dps. But playing together have advantages, we all know it.

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Originally Posted by Koroem

Seriously complaining about rouge/ninja queue times in a patch where the only new job released was a dps class. /facepalm. Anyone who has any ability for logical thinking would have been able to come to that conclusion without even trying. Go do fates and stop making the DF worse for everyone else.

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Well, I don't think people are complaining because they didn't see it coming. Sometimes something sucks even if you understand why it is the way it is.

Point was u wanted to do my low level daily as rogue cant do that in party finder. The daily roulette

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Originally Posted by Lithera

People rouletting for tomes would start premaking, removing potential solo queued healers and tanks from the pool, making queue times worse not better.

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One tank or healer premaking is not necessarily one tank or healer removed from the queue, though. Some people won't even bother if they can't play with friends. Likewise, one tank or healer premaking in a partial that wouldn't otherwise queue is one tank or healer added to the queue.

For example I have two friends, a tank and a healer at level 50. In any other circumstance they would never play with randoms in a low-level dungeon with their level 50 tanks and healers. I'm leveling ROG. Multiple times we went "man! If only the (two/three) of us could queue low level roulette for you to get the daily bonus." In our situation, that's one less tank and one less healer that could be assisting another random DPS in the queue.