Just confirmed in livestream to be a tank.
Dark Knight
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10-25-2014, 07:12 PMcharlemagneDark Knight
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10-25-2014, 07:14 PMcharlemagne
No base class , two handed sword user
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10-25-2014, 07:14 PMAnarnee
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10-25-2014, 07:16 PMFornix
Looking forward!!
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10-25-2014, 07:17 PMRosalynd
And there goes one iconic class butchered by the XIV team....
Truly disappointed in it being a tank. -
10-25-2014, 07:18 PMAirget
lol hate to be that guy who makes a snarky comment but, why couldn't NIN be a tank again? Making DRK a tank is just weird, I guess the gun class they reveal is going to end up being a healer lol.
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10-25-2014, 07:19 PMTsukinoThey're running through them one by one. They already have Bard, Ranger, Summoner, and Thief under their belt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosalynd
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10-25-2014, 07:19 PMResheph
I don't understand how it doesn't have a base class. This am not make sense.
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10-25-2014, 07:21 PMWellFooledWe have about five seconds worth of information, at least wait until we get a one sentence summery of the class before we jump to 'butchering classic' :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Rosalynd
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10-25-2014, 07:23 PMTanathya
Just logged on to say that nothing screams "DD" louder than a job that historically sacrifices HP to deal more damage.
Thanks Square for destroying that.
Whoever wanted to play DRK right from the start (remember that poll in which DRK was one of the most expected jobs?), wanted to do it as a DD, not as a tank. There are *plenty* of other jobs who could've become one. DRK is also the opposite of PLD, yet the role is the same, too.
I personally have been waiting for DRK long since jobs were implemented in 1.23, and now I feel cheated.
This is, of course, based on a personal point of view, *my* personal point of view.
And, personally, once again, thanks Square. -
10-25-2014, 07:23 PMLexxukBecause they figured that people who wanted to be an emo-goth for 30 levels before unlocking DRK would never be able to hit level 30 because of dying all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Resheph
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10-25-2014, 07:23 PMcharlemagne
Combination of parrying and dodging seems interesting. Wonder how much evasion it will actually have.
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10-25-2014, 07:25 PMRosalyndA class that has for the longest time been an offensive powerhouse that uses its own HP to augment its offensive powers has been relegated to the role of tank, a role that really shouldnt be using its own HP to augment its offensive powers.Quote:
Originally Posted by WellFooled
Yeah, i would say that it has been butchered quite thoroughly. :P -
10-25-2014, 07:25 PMSongJooheeStarts as the job from Level 1?Quote:
Originally Posted by Resheph
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10-25-2014, 07:25 PMBeskar
Lol at all the complaining already. We hardly know anything about this job apart from what's just been showing on the slide. For all we know it might involve dealing lots of DoT's over time to enemies to get it a DPS feel of doing damage.
Oh and if any Dev reads this, please make it so that the battle stance is like Cecil from FF4 please ^^ -
10-25-2014, 07:26 PMDashuto
All these folks upset that its a tank...
The original Drk in Final Fantasy was a tank.
Many MMO have drain/endrain tanks, Lineage II's best tank was basically a Dark Knight. I'm fully confident they will make drk work just fine. -
10-25-2014, 07:26 PMAshrak
Really disappointing how the XI-fanboys already go to the barricades for the tank spec. Only FFIV-DRK are tru pro MLG with Mountain Dew and Doritos. Scythes are so casul.
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10-25-2014, 07:27 PMGardes
I wanted DRK to be a tank just so I can have a laugh and my wish came true.
Up next, I'm wishing samurai to be a tank too. Pray with me! -
10-25-2014, 07:27 PMwinxbloom61
looks like im going to become a dark knight and tank the only reason i haven't tanked currently is personally i hate axes and i rlly hate shields and paladins. Dark knight sounds perfect for me to tank with ive always loved 2 handed sword fight and just the idea of being a knight of darkness ive always loved
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10-25-2014, 07:27 PMShougunEquip the weapon to jump straight to the job? Or maybe classes are going by the wayside, and we're getting Jobs with cross job skills ? I don't know lol, does sound weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Resheph
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10-25-2014, 07:27 PMDefendPopPunk
Yeah it's odd that it's a tank, but man it looks great! Was hoping we'd get a two-handed sword job and glad it was DRK!
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10-25-2014, 07:28 PMChiramuIn FFIV there could be much speculation about what role Cecil played as DRK in the game. Are you only thinking about XI? If so, how is that classic? FFIV is the classic if anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosalynd
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10-25-2014, 07:28 PMRadaccino, James Bond is confirmed job, James Bond is not a healer!Quote:
Originally Posted by Airget
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10-25-2014, 07:29 PMRumpelstiltzkin
Watch them make SAM a healer, RDM a pet class and the gunjob "sooner than we think" apparently meaning 4.0. Meh w/e, I guess we will see how it all turns out. At least happy to hear they scrapped the class completely, hopefully they have come up with a better class/job system entirely.
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10-25-2014, 07:30 PMShikiseki
Aw, I was hoping for Templar to become the 3rd tank... but DRK will do just fine, being a hybrid mage tank
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10-25-2014, 07:30 PMAshraknononono. you're wrong. There is only Final Fantasy XI in existence. Count it: zero. eleven. Fenrir has always been an Esper named in the very same breath with Bahamut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiramu
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10-25-2014, 07:30 PMGalkaBikini
Dark Knight has just about always been a tank. In reference to FFXI, all melees had some sort of tank abilities, though obviously some classes were better at it than others. There was plenty of content that DRK could tank. The problem with FFXI DRK tanking was newbies using Last Resort and Soul Eater. Though not the ideal tank, it worked. Besides, FFXI was FULL of hybrids anyway and so most classes could fill multiple roles.
Seriously though, I could've told you DRK was going to be a tank in FFXIV years ago, I don't know why people were setting themselves up for disappointment. -
10-25-2014, 07:30 PMwinxbloom61i have a strong feeling the dancer will be our next healer no other final fantasy jobs make sense however dark knight does make since as a tankQuote:
Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltzkin
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10-25-2014, 07:31 PMChiramulol awesome post!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashrak
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10-25-2014, 07:32 PMwinxbloom61are there any templars in any final fantasy i mean i know theres been temples but i dont remember any jobs being templerQuote:
Originally Posted by Shikiseki
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10-25-2014, 07:32 PMchococo
Strategic move on SE's part to probably attract ppl to play tank roles by using ppl's desire to play DRK, and lets WoW dudes a more easy transition from deathknight?
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10-25-2014, 07:32 PMSparktacus
I figured it was going to be a tank because we knew a tank and healer class were coming with higher priority. As soon as they announced it that was the first thought I had and told my friends. People in 11 might be a little sore cuz DRK was an uber dps, however I am extremely excited and might just have to switch from war4lyfe to drk4lyfe.
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10-25-2014, 07:33 PMDanbo05
The salt is flowing. The sodium levels are through the roof!
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10-25-2014, 07:33 PMLithera
NIN became a tank in FFXI only because the players forced it in that direction. It was intended as a DoT DPS similar to THF. Tanaka just decided to roll with it instead of nerfing Utsusemi... SAM had intentions as tank in XI but keep in mind the only whisper of SAM we got was that folder on Soken's desktop which could have been anything. Gunner can't be a tank, at least not easily and we still need a new Healer so DRK fills the tank role probably without sacrificing the heart of the job since it's a natural blood tank. Even in XI it got heavy armor, high HP and potent absorbs and drains that allowed it to flex as a tank. So what if you can't pop six different DPS cooldowns and drop a 10k Guillotine or some crap like that. This direction means the blood magic isn't going to take the hit it did in XI where "balance" made absorbs and drains useless on endgame bosses.
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10-25-2014, 07:33 PMReshephI guess it'd have to. That just blows my mind and now I'm wondering why they didn't do that with Scholar and Summoner. It'll be interesting to see!Quote:
Originally Posted by SongJoohee
I don't mind that it's a Tank class I just hope that it plays differently enough from Warrior and Paladin to be entertaining to play. I have both at 50 and they're different enough but the experience is basically the same to me. "Stand in front of mob, build hate w/skills, mitigate damage." Maybe it will mitigate damage through parrying or counter attacking? -
10-25-2014, 07:33 PMViridianaPretty much just from the Tactics series.Quote:
Originally Posted by winxbloom61
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10-25-2014, 07:34 PMrina_inverse
also curious on the no base class
wonder if SE will tear down the whole class-job concept -
10-25-2014, 07:35 PMDanbo05And Bravely Default.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viridiana
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10-25-2014, 07:35 PMTsukinoDark Knight's signature ability is Darkness, which consumes their HP to deal damage. Cecil was only a tank after he became a paladin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashuto
It was a damage dealer in IV, X-2, and XI, as well as Tactics and Legend/Dimensions. And the remake of III (it originally was called something else).
It actually hasn't been in very many games at all, but it was never a tank. Of course, single player games also rarely require true tanks, and the only one that ever has fit the bill is Paladin due to Cover and low HP auto-cover. -
10-25-2014, 07:35 PMwinxbloom61oh i see i forgot all about tactics thank you for reminding meQuote:
Originally Posted by Viridiana