So does that mean the dungeon loot will be i90 (outdated by 10-20 ilvls now. 20-40 by 2.4), used only for Glamour, GC seals and desynthing? Does this also mean the dungeons will only be run for Poetics? Until the loot ilvl is revealed, I'm currently, desperately hoping the dungeons will have punishing mechanics (not one shot, but something that forces players to pay attention to their surroundings, in and outside of boss fights).
As Hunts will still hand out Soldiery, people can just spam those until they have full Soldiery gear and then use whatever amount of Allied Seals they have to upgrade it with Sands and Oils, or spam Syrcus Tower for UAT's, Oils and Sands.
Minimal item level for dungeons is i80, huh?
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10-25-2014, 10:15 AMNestamaMinimal item level for dungeons is i80, huh?
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10-25-2014, 02:40 PMGalkaBikini
I'm thinking that Myth gear will be dropping in the new dungeons.
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10-25-2014, 02:47 PMSongJoohee
Yeah old mytho gears drop from Dungeons now, they removed all other ways to obtain it.
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10-25-2014, 03:14 PMEdelineThey specifically said in patch notes that myth items were removed from hunts and added to SOLDIERY shop, costing half of what it used to.Quote:
Originally Posted by SongJoohee
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10-25-2014, 03:19 PMSongJooheeThere's a list of items directly after that statement showing which items will be in the Soldiery item store, it's the old minions and stuff associated with the relic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edeline
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10-25-2014, 03:30 PMEdelineOuch you're right, my apologies ><Quote:
Originally Posted by SongJoohee
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10-25-2014, 04:52 PMNestamaI would hope not, as that will make me see SE being incredibly lazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalkaBikini
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10-25-2014, 05:07 PMSongJooheeUnless they've left the dungeon gear out of the preliminary patch notes it's highly likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nestama
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10-25-2014, 05:23 PMNestama
It's what I'm gunning for. I get there's a lot of good things coming out in 2.4, but it annoys and disappoints me more than anything to see three beautifully made dungeons being over geared and outdated before they're released again.
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10-25-2014, 05:36 PMArtisteThere will be no new ilvl 90 gear for glamour then ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SongJoohee
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10-25-2014, 10:43 PMTomTom1968Why? They already did the same with Darklight Gear. I look forward to it, free Level 90 accesoires for GSM Desynthesis. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Nestama
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10-25-2014, 10:54 PMKiara1I agree. It should be ilvl 90-95 or something like that. I feel like if you don't have that already by now you could just do one of the other (how many are they, 15+?) dungeons till you get enough soldiery to get that ilvl. I don't see why they are making them so easy at release :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Nestama
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10-25-2014, 11:49 PMGarlyle
There's only one set of new i90 gear and it's, by name, quite clearly the Ninja Myth-tier gear.
There is new glamour sets - crafters now can make i110 gear, I realised today. That said, it would indeed appear the drops from the new dungeons are entirely the former Myth gear.
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10-26-2014, 01:12 AMMuzettaThe part in the patchnotes about some previous Monk sets getting added Dexterity on them also has the weathered and unweathered Gloam set. That's what Ninja's will be using. As for accessories, I do believe that would be bard accessories.Quote:
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10-26-2014, 07:13 AMNestamaBecause Myth gear has been available to 'buy' for over a year now (it also removes the possibility of dungeons dropping gear that can be used for anything outside of Glamour, GC Seals and Desynthing. This is what also annoys me, that the gear you get isn't worthwhile on release. There's also already Coil and Crafted gear i90 gear) and has lore behind it. From what I've heard, Rowena and her master artisan's are the ones who made the gear, so for something they made to suddenly appear in dungeons is just... stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by TomTom1968
The Darklight appearing in dungeons did annoy me, but that didn't bother me as much as the fact that 2.2 allowed me to easily hit i89-90 by spamming Brayflox HM. 2.2 dungeons should have dropped i85 gear :/ -
10-26-2014, 07:17 AMZanzhizExaverion
There are pieces in the "Item List" called Antique Gear. The Antique gear can be exchanged for any corresponding piece of Myth Gear of that Type. Body = Body Hands = Hands etc.
They wouldn't put 45 Pieces of armor in one dungeon, that's insane. I'm sure it'll have Glamour gear too. -
10-26-2014, 07:19 AMsilentwindfr
if the myth gear drop from the new dungeon, sorry to be blunt, but that idiot...really. who gonna run this new dungeon? i means player that there for more than 6 month will simply already own all the myth gear, they will have no reason to do the new dungeon outside the tomes. worst, why do this since we can already faceroll most of the BC1.... *sighs*
SE seems to not have not understand what must be used the dungeon and still continue to think content at 4 =/= hard content, for them because you are 4 it can't be hard... it sad -
10-26-2014, 07:23 AMZumiPeople will run new dungeons every week to cap their tomes, the gear drops can be turned in for seals or desynthed for mats.Quote:
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10-26-2014, 07:26 AMFornixThe only complexity in ANY form of dungeon or raid in MMO's is the other player element. The smaller the number of players, the easier the content. Sure you can make things more challenging simply by increasing health or damage output on opponents, but that doesn't truly make things more of a challenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by silentwindfr
As such, T9 for example is nothing more than an easy dance once all 8 players know the steps. And without lockout timers on dungeons, only 3 others having to be aware of the steps, it'll be no-time before people will blast through it, regardless of what SE would do. Increasing ilvl requirements in that is only going to lengthen duration of the dungeon, but won't really make things much more of a challenge. -
10-26-2014, 08:16 AMNestamaThere's a reason people fear Sunken Temple of Qarn, Stone Vigil and Aurum Vale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fornix
Anyway, I think SE should just release Savage Mode versions of the dungeons or something. The lore will remain the same (like for Savage Second Coil), but the trash mobs and bosses will be adjusted to challenge Light Parties. The loot can also be treated differently to make players feel incredibly rewarded. For every boss you defeat, four chests will drop, one for each party member (think Walk of Echoes from FFXI).- First and second (and if there's a third) boss will drop four chests. One for each party member. In the chest will be two dungeon pieces (so say you did Savage Amadpor Keep, it would just be i55 junk), two crafting mats and a 50% chance of i115 equipment dropping.
- Final boss will also drop four chests for each party member, but this time the i115 is a guaranteed drop, BUT may also drop i125 equipment (10% chance dropping, though).
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10-26-2014, 09:09 AMSadana
I'm going to sincerely hope it's myth gear in some chests WITH new gear that can be used for glamour. These are just the prelim patch notes, after all, not the full ones. Without shiny new gear attainable in these dungeons, my interest in this patch just went flat. ._. (this [running 4 man dungeons and seeing new gear] is what I look forward to the most, don't judge :p )