All Worlds Emergency Maintenance (Oct. 21)

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-%28Oct.-21%29

Out of curiosity, anyone knows what the emergency is?

Routine (maybe with a bit of preparing for 2.4 too).

That's all.

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Originally Posted by HulveinBlitz

Routine (maybe with a bit of preparing for 2.4 too).

That's all.

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Hmm. If it's routine, they would have titled it "All Worlds Maintenance" instead of "All Worlds Emergency Maintenance". Ahh well. Whatever. It's probably to fix a bug or exploit with the Halloween event.

surprise we are releasing patch 1 week early XD..

I know its not quite true it would of been an 8 hour or something but when i read that i shot straight to forums hoping lol

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Originally Posted by IzumiYuki

Hmm. If it's routine, they would have titled it "All Worlds Maintenance" instead of "All Worlds Emergency Maintenance". Ahh well. Whatever. It's probably to fix a bug or exploit with the Halloween event.

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Having done the Halloween FATE a few times, there is a bit of an issue where two phases of the FATE have NPCs positioned in a weird way so that it's impossible to do anything without getting your illusion dispelled, causing you to have to run back to the Illusionist, reapply your illusion, then run all the way back to the FATE. I don't think it's currently possible to get higher than Silver in that FATE for that reason, but I could be wrong.

They may be tweaking odin or the modified frontlines battle they used for london fanfest later this week. Maybe a few to many odin shirts were won, I saw tons of them.

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Originally Posted by Chibionieko

They may be tweaking odin or the modified frontlines battle they used for london fanfest later this week. Maybe a few to many odin shirts were won, I saw tons of them.

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Eh the truth is when it comes to those battles it's knowing the loophole to win and for Odin it was silencing Einherjar that seemed to be the most effective. Once players knew that they could silence that move they had an easier time winning before that they had to pray/evade/deal with all the moves thrown at them but learning they could at least nulify one ability helped them.

Pretty much it's the same concept as the use of silencing that one chimera moves which name slips me atm but when you don't silence it it's harder and when you are able to follow through and silence said move it makes the fight much easier to manage.

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

Having done the Halloween FATE a few times, there is a bit of an issue where two phases of the FATE have NPCs positioned in a weird way so that it's impossible to do anything without getting your illusion dispelled, causing you to have to run back to the Illusionist, reapply your illusion, then run all the way back to the FATE. I don't think it's currently possible to get higher than Silver in that FATE for that reason, but I could be wrong.

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I got gold last night, it gives 6 cookies. Hopefully they're making it so people can't spam Medica II and get credit anymore.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0YQSwECAAAddOi.jpg:orig

cuz this was just insane.

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Originally Posted by Ilitsa

I got gold last night, it gives 6 cookies. Hopefully they're making it so people can't spam Esuna and get credit anymore.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0YQSwECAAAddOi.jpg:orig

cuz this was just insane.

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That looks more like Cure III or Medica II than Esuna. But still, that needs to be fixed.

Should be fixed yeah, effortless way to get Gold. XD

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

That looks more like Cure III or Medica II than Esuna. But still, that needs to be fixed.

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Yeah I meant to say Medica II, was still waking up and in that morning groggy-haze lol, fix'd

Meh, I'm really hoping they're adding the new fantasia options to Mogstation, or has that been confirmed for the 28th? I'm desperate to buy fantasia in specific quantities :P

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Originally Posted by Merylx

Meh, I'm really hoping they're adding the new fantasia options to Mogstation, or has that been confirmed for the 28th? I'm desperate to buy fantasia in specific quantities :P

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Fantasia confirmed for the 28th, but it only comes in stacks of 1, 3, and 5, or was it 1, 5, and 10? I don't remember.

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

Fantasia confirmed for the 28th, but it only comes in stacks of 1, 3, and 5, or was it 1, 5, and 10? I don't remember.

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same stacks as it is now I believe, just not limited to one time purchase

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Originally Posted by Ilitsa

same stacks as it is now I believe, just not limited to one time purchase

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What you said.

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Originally Posted by Ilitsa

same stacks as it is now I believe, just not limited to one time purchase

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That'll do me, thanks!

Might also be to fix oversight of monk run speed buff working even while illusioned for Halloween FATE.

I got 6 cookies on a silver completion, so maybe they are fixing that too.

Maybe they're fixing the fate so that even I can do it! :D

Maybe they are making cookies un-tradeable.

Whatever it's for I am guessing it's to do with the event not patch 2.4 at all.

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Originally Posted by Snugglebutt

Maybe they are making cookies un-tradeable.

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Aww, if that's it, I'm never getting the two items. :(

How so? You get one cookie each time run it even if don't hit the civies and only hit the mages in disguise. Granted it would take running it 16 times but that's not much. In general if just careful you can get around 3-6 cookies per fate run, if helps do as I did and turn off other players names above their heads in settings which makes seeing the location of the ones want to hit much easier.

PS3 limitations

What specifically is the problem though? Lag? Like too many people spamming and following the quest NPC? If so then making them un-tradable will work in your favor as people currently are camping it to stock up on cookies for selling to others of which if was unable to trade then the amount of people camping the NPC would decrease maybe. That's the ideology behind why I mentioned doing so earlier in an effort to help people get them by reducing the amount of camping the of fate going on for cookies right now. Though there is the problem of if don't also make them un-sellable to market then people will still camp and sell on there I guess.

Ul'dah in still a busy place. The fate goes right past the main aethyrite.

The issue is the same issue I have with hunts: Nothing loads and then it's over. I wouldn't even be able to do the Medica II spam method because that'd require me to be able to target people in my party, which usually is not happening. Sometimes they pop up until I do a very small move.

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Originally Posted by Violyre

Ul'dah in still a busy place. The fate goes right past the main aethyrite.

The issue is the same issue I have with hunts: Nothing loads and then it's over. I wouldn't even be able to do the Medica II spam method because that'd require me to be able to target people in my party, which usually is not happening. Sometimes they pop up until I do a very small move.

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I don't know if the Medica trick actually works but, Medica I and II are AoE. Just have a general hunch of where your party members are, and aim it on yourself. It'll hit them.

I got all the cookies to buy the 2 items in like 3 fate runs? I got 3, 3 and then a 6. Why are people buying cookies anyways? Are you really that lazy you can't spend 10 min running an easy ass fate? lol.

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Originally Posted by IzumiYuki

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-%28Oct.-21%29

Out of curiosity, anyone knows what the emergency is?

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it's to deal with client crashes and server lag that's occuring in instances as well as during normal play so it's server instability across all severs

I'm surprised they didn't make the fate available in all 3 cities. At least for the people who have limitations it wouldn't be as demanding and laggy. I did it tonight and it reminded me of Hunts all over again! haha :rolleyes:

Got my stack of 12 cookies in 4 runs. Wasn't bad but there were a lot of people complaining it was so laggy that the citizens weren't showing up until the fate was almost over. But there are people buying them $5000 for 10. If thats the case I will spam that fate all day to make easy money!

If anything its the event, I try my dam hardiest to get Gold but all I can ever do is get silver.

I wonder what they can do without shutting the Servers down. It seems nothing can be done by just letting people download a Patch or by fixing something when the Servers are live and online. Nothing, lol. The number of "Emergency" maintainances they need is ridiculous. Yeah, they only do it for us, I know and they are quick in fixing things Yadda Yadda but Goddamnit, why on Earth do you always need several hours downtime for everything?

Four hours to implement one line of Code for the golden dye? Sounds reasonable. Eeeh no. Do more testing or provide us with a test realm before Release to prevent heavy usage of Emergency maintainances. Seems the players find the bugs and glitches in one day you don't find during the development process. And for the Love of the Elder, do something about your Patch processes so you do not have to shut down everything for the smallest things.

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There is probably more to these 4 hour emergency maintenance times than they tell us.

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Originally Posted by Vespar

There is probably more to these 4 hour emergency maintenance times than they tell us.

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After over 20 years of MMORPGs people still don't understand it takes awhile for the whole process, not what they tell us they're doing. Unless you have a super computer, I bet it takes a little time for your PC to reboot, doesn't it? Now multiply that by a couple hundredx in a giant server farm with multiple processes and resynchronization....

I am sure they do more than they tell us and I can imagine that rebooting a Server farm takes longer than a few minutes. My question was, why can it never be a Patch or something they can change while Servers are live? Why must there always be a downtime included? That's the question I have since Release.

Is it cheaper (I guess each patch in PSN costs them something)? Is it because of PS3 limitations? Is it a matter of the tools they use? I'd just like to know. And on a side note, with a European Server I wouldn't even have to worry about it because then their maintainances would happen while I sleep and not in the morning till noon so they affect me when I have a day off or am ill at home. Without knowing why, I just assume that the way they do it is the cheapest way possible for them and it is not the best choice from a customer perspective.

its takes 3 hours to clean the dead hamster off the wheel, then another hour to go the store for a new one, in the mean time Yoshi puts naked pics of himself in .patch files for you all to install onto your Hard drives

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

After over 20 years of MMORPGs people still don't understand it takes awhile for the whole process, not what they tell us they're doing. Unless you have a super computer, I bet it takes a little time for your PC to reboot, doesn't it? Now multiply that by a couple hundredx in a giant server farm with multiple processes and resynchronization....

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Tupsi knows!

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Unless you have a super computer, I bet it takes a little time for your PC to reboot, doesn't it?

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About 4-5 seconds for mine, from POST to workable desktop /brag :P