Perma heavy in Eorzea

Can we please, please, please introduce some immunity or diminishing return for the effect "Heavy" that mobs throw at us?
Riding through the mines in Outer La N or the woods in the East Shroud or wherever else and getting perma heavy makes me want to strangle a puppy.

You get hit by a 20 sec debuff, ride on, get hit again which resets the debuff to 20 sec again, and again, and again, and again....the best thing is really when it already counted down to 3 sec and WHAMM there it is again >.>

There might be people who actually enjoy it....can't say I am one of them though. So, how about it? I not whining for it to be completely removed but a diminishing return would only be fair.

With hunting being so popular nowadays, I suppose that more people have had the pleasure of experiencing this.

Heavy isn't just a skill. Heavy is a skill chain/combo.

It goes something like this: Heavy / Heavy / Heavy / Heavy / Heavy / Heavy / Heavy / Heavy
*97 pages later*
.....Heavy / Heavy / Heavy

This is a complex combination of moves that is passed down by the great beastman Gods and to take it away would be to deny their faith sadly.... :(

Try and run behind mobs instead of just tearing through aggroing everything.

Also on DRG "Elusive Jump" sheds the heavy effect so this might work for other hate shedding abilities. I dismount > face the mob > elusive jump away from it > remount.

It only happen if you get hit in the back while mounted.
But the devs could change it back to how it was in 1.0, so only the mount get heavy and not the player.

Just wondering. Is it possible to reduce the timer of heavy with Chocobo Down Materia?

Heavy. atma. east shroud. suicide.

Want to get rid of "Heavy" debuff ? Easy.Unplug your internet cable then log in again,there ! You're good to go !

Just get off your chocobo and run through those areas. Or dodge aggro instead of mindlessly running. There are ways to avoid heavy if you aren't lazy. Besides, heavy is hardly a punishment for catching aggro. It's annoying, but it ultimately amounts to nothing.

Tempered Will from PLD also gets rid of it in addition to the Elusive Jump already mentioned.

I agree it is kind of annoying, but I very rarely get it put on me over and over as the OP states. As has already been said, if you at least make an attempt to run behind mobs that aggro to sight then you will deal with it a lot less.

...Except when the developers intentionally put the field of vision of the enemies in directions other than where they are facing (looking at you Natalan gate guards =_=). Esuna also cures Heavy, which doesn't help much since any of those abilities can only be used while dismounted and you can not remount while under attack.

I don't mind that Heavy is there. I understand what it's there for but, I for one would just like for the rules of this game to be consistent. If heavy in any other situation has diminishing returns, then so should it be while on mounts.

when i get heavy it always makes me think of the movie epic and i laugh about it and move on lol

Heavy makes sense as a debuff for, say, a boss fight where you have to get out of AoEs and the decreased movement speed makes it more challenging. But in the open world, it almost never does anything interesting or presents any kind of legitimate challenge. It's mostly just an annoyance when I am trying to pass through an area and have no intention of fighting at all. I see no harm in at least decreasing the duration of Heavy for some of these mobs.

Heavy was OK while leveling up. It was something you received only here and there because you didn’t always sit on a Mount while exploring the different areas. And it was actually at least a tad dangerous from time to time. But with Item Levels > 100 and people no longer exploring areas but just rushing through them to get somewhere, it has completely lost its meaning and has become nothing but annoying. So I am also all for a Change. Either reduce the chain possibility (x-times Heavy in a row) or make us immune after the first time it was applied or add a new type of potion to the Vendor or a craft for the alchemist which provides immunity for a limited time.

While we are at it, I could also do without the mind-numbing random agro from mobs that are nothing but blowflies for me. This is also a Game Feature which was relevant when you level up because you had to watch where you go and couldn’t just cross dozen of enemies like you do it now.
When I am in the open World nowadays, this is nothing but annoying to me. They can’t hurt me and they do not drop anything that I want. They just take some of my time.

Dunno how it is with you but for me, these constantly aggroing mobs are sometimes stressful. No matter if I just want to go quickly to a Hunt location or do my daily quests, these little buggers are always there waiting to aggro me lol. When I did combat beast tribe quests, I killed more of these random buggers than actual quest objectives.

There are areas in the Game I avoid unless I have to go there for something particular. Western La Noscea with all the splish splash casters and the tedious Sylphs with their bzz bzz Lightning skills all the time..I truly hate them lol. I wish the open World mobs would either be relevant (reads: dangerous) or connected to the player’s Item Level, not its Character level.

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Heavy isn't just a skill. Heavy is a skill chain/combo.

It goes something like this: Heavy / Heavy / Heavy / Heavy / Heavy / Heavy / Heavy / Heavy
*97 pages later*
.....Heavy / Heavy / Heavy

This is a complex combination of moves that is passed down by the great beastman Gods and to take it away would be to deny their faith sadly.... :(

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And if the beastmen could be played by the players, there would still be some that manage to mess up their rotation.

Yeah I understand the whole thing with being careful when riding through the areas, but there are always bottlenecks where -regardless of how careful you are- 3 or more mobs come together to make your life hell. It doesn't add anything storywise or combat wise, it is just an unbelievable annoyance.
Those ankle biters don't even do any damage. I can unmount, go grab a pizza, watch a movie, come back and I would still not be dead (heavy, heavy exaggeration here just in case you missed it). It is not really a challenge at lv50 and being so highly geared.

And really, if you spent several hours looking for hunt mobs, do you really want to be extra careful on your ride through potential spawning grounds? Same if you just want to get those damn mobs for your daily hunt or if you just want to pass through?

It makes sense if you are still leveling or if you just freshly passed the godlike lv 50 mark, but with iLvl 100 and above those pesky little buggers shouldn't slow you down for so long and repeatedly. Therefore, at least consider a diminishing return so that you don't just waste your life crawling out of these areas. Or give us a potion (which surely will have a diminishing return, right? >.>)

Alternatively, SE could make it worth while killing them besides the occasional egg, wing, tooth and 5 gil or whatever else drops. At the moment, it doesn't add anything remotely useful to the gaming experience besides a whole ton of frustration which makes me fear for the safety of my screen the next time i feel the urge to punch something after being hit by heavy 3 times in a row.

Your heavy debuff is about to expire and you got the heavy debuff from another mob... and another one...
At least put some heavy debuff resistance on player, like we can't keep stun our enemies, can we?

A least it doesn't knock you off your mount like it did in WoW when I played!

I usually go as SCH so once get heavy. Get off my chocobo, esuna my self and kill mobs for messing with me.

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Originally Posted by Galliano

Try and run behind mobs instead of just tearing through aggroing everything.

Also on DRG "Elusive Jump" sheds the heavy effect so this might work for other hate shedding abilities. I dismount > face the mob > elusive jump away from it > remount.

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Galliano Senpai

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

And if the beastmen could be played by the players, there would still be some that manage to mess up their rotation.

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What I find funny about the beast tribes is that I have maximum friendship with all of them thanks to the Beast tribe quests. But still, as soon as I leave their camp, they are all over me, aggoing me, trying to kill me. And put the devastating Heavy on me. Must be really good friends! Imagine what they would be like if you were not their friends. Oh wait......

When I started the first series of tribe quests, I was hoping that in the end, when I am their best friend, they will just leave me alone and stop aggroing me. Boy, was I naive.

This is how mob heavy came to be...

SE Dev: So, when players reach lv50 they become almost invincible, all these poor monsters of Eorzea don't stand a chance against them...it's unfair...

SE Dev2: Well, what are you going to do about it? You are developing this game...you can do whatever you want!

SE Dev: Hmmm....how about....we make mobs throw heavy continuously to the players, even if they're mounted, and they can't get away as fast as they want to for like...I don't know, 20 seconds?

SE Dev2: Wow, that sounds like something that would become annoying in the long run...are you sure about this?

SE Dev: Oh yes...it will be mine...oh yes...it will be mine -troll face-

Witch dev got the idea of this long heavy that apply really often and that doesn't have like stun, a resist after getting hit by too many ?

I was wondering myself, or the dev team didn't try the game, or one of them hate MMO RPG's players, or it's a troll... Maybe all at same time.

This perma heavy is useless, annoying, and just make ppl mad instead of enjoying playing.
Specially when you're trying to get a fate, or a hunt target, that is already pulled, and you get 1-2 heavy mid-way... The best moment, perfect to make players getting mad.

I'm a WHM, so I can dispel myself, and even with this, this annoy me so much... I cant imagine for a class tohat cant dispel himself (remind me a frient Pld that told me about this heavy and was comlaining about it)

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Originally Posted by TomTom1968

What I find funny about the beast tribes is that I have maximum friendship with all of them thanks to the Beast tribe quests. But still, as soon as I leave their camp, they are all over me, aggoing me, trying to kill me. And put the devastating Heavy on me. Must be really good friends! Imagine what they would be like if you were not their friends. Oh wait......

When I started the first series of tribe quests, I was hoping that in the end, when I am their best friend, they will just leave me alone and stop aggroing me. Boy, was I naive.

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...are you for real? You should go back and actually read the quests. It explains quite clearly why this was not going to happen.

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Originally Posted by TomTom1968

What I find funny about the beast tribes is that I have maximum friendship with all of them thanks to the Beast tribe quests. But still, as soon as I leave their camp, they are all over me, aggoing me, trying to kill me. And put the devastating Heavy on me. Must be really good friends! Imagine what they would be like if you were not their friends. Oh wait......

When I started the first series of tribe quests, I was hoping that in the end, when I am their best friend, they will just leave me alone and stop aggroing me. Boy, was I naive.

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It help to read the quests text. You are only friendly to a small group of the tribes (outsiders or rebells), not to all.

Maybe they don't possess the ability to read beyond a few lines or past a few complicated words.

Remove heavy! Is not a challenge - not interesting - adds nothing to game - not anything but annoying. Ty.

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Originally Posted by Starvald

diminishing return for the effect

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This... ^^

Remove heavy, buff the mobs and enlarge the leash :D.

Enemies under your level should not be able to heavy you, PERIOD.

Because I’m heavy
Clap along, if you feel like going through the roof
Because I’m heavy
Clap along, if you feel like slowness is the truth
Because I’m heavy
Clap along, if you know what mounted agro is to you
Because I’m heavy
Clap along, if you feel like strangle a puppy is what you wanna do

Back in my day (1.0) we got one shotted by mobs. Heavy isn't a problem.

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Originally Posted by Kerwin

Back in my day (1.0) we got one shotted by mobs. Heavy isn't a problem.

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Back in the day you also probably walked for 15 hours to your location so I am not sure we need to go there.

This happens to me as well, and it drives me crazy. These monsters aren't hard, nor pose any threat, but it's just a pure annoyance when you're trying to get somewhere fast.

+1 to you Starvald... the Heavy spell (and the ridiculous amount of mobs in proximity to each other) in East Shroud remains the single reason why I hate that place so damn much.

Hands down my most hated place in the game... and the reason I haven't finished my beastmen daillies till date.

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Originally Posted by Theresa

Because I’m heavy
Clap along, if you feel like going through the roof
Because I’m heavy
Clap along, if you feel like slowness is the truth
Because I’m heavy
Clap along, if you know what mounted agro is to you
Because I’m heavy
Clap along, if you feel like strangle a puppy is what you wanna do

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Lmao, that's clever. +1

Today, I went in a place, I aggroed only 6 monsters and... I got heavy 5 times (no fake), everything seems normal here ?
Just spent 2min (if i didn't had dispel) with heavy, in 3min of playing.

As a healing main, I've learned that through areas like that, I won't even use my chocobo. I'll sprint and run through most, and if I get heavy'd, use esuna or leeches. It's not as fast as a chocobo, but it beats slow birds if you get hit. Of course that's for healers

I wish these mobs could actually kill you, instead it is just an annoyance. If the mobs were at least dangerous for most of us, the heavy skill would at least seem to have a purpose.

Heavy used to be called Lame I believe in the 1.0 era, because it was the effect of your mount getting injured. What I wanna know is why I get agro by mobs 10 levels lower than me, when as a player anything more than 5 levels higher will most likely murder you solo (pre-50.) Mobs should have some awareness of your ilevel to know "Hey that adventurer is 100-110! I shouldn't try to poke him with my spear for 6 damage!"

Wasn't there a resist mechanic in FFXI for enfeebles?