I would like to see FINALLY some of the 1.0 stuff come back. When the development team makes Cutters Cry, Dzemael Darkhold, and Aurum Vale HARD MODE please consider the 1.0 Dungeon style. The mechanics really made a team of players think and work together.
For instance In DD The second boss and the ghost, positioning, and constantly moving around and re-positioning the boss to adjust to the adds.
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09-30-2014, 08:37 AMRyuuIfritFuture Hard Mode Dungeons
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09-30-2014, 03:28 PMStorikunFully agree
I definitely feel like that added a very interesting aspect to those dungeons in 1.0! I think that coupled with the no random server lag would bring an extraordinary experience!
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09-30-2014, 07:31 PMMertrodome
As someone who didn't play in 1.0, what made them different? What is "the 1.0 dungeon style"? I'm curious because I do think the current dungeons, while having some fun mechanics, are a bit cookie-cutter sometimes. Any examples you could share? :)
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10-01-2014, 02:10 AMEstelliosThe dungeons just had gimmicks the new versions don't, but the old versions were endgame when they were implemented and intended to be more difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mertrodome
Off the top of my head:
- In Darkhold the All-seeing eye or another invincible Ahriman were throughout the entire dungeon (the other one put a ton of status effects on anyone in the AOE) and they were present in the boss fight.
- Cutter's Cry's sandpits would damage HP, MP, or send you back to the start of the dungeon.
- The areas with the yellow...stuff... in Aurum Vale had a strong, permanent DoT effect whenever you were in those rooms. Eating Morbol fruits in the side rooms would temporarily reduce the DoT potency.
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10-01-2014, 03:09 AMRyuuIfrit
also in DD one of the boss mechanics where many wiped ... the ghost would appear in outside of arena and everyone would have to be inside against the boss that did lots of damage, when ghost disappeared u would have to re-position the whole party when the ghost would reappear in the center of the room. Rinse and Repeat until boss killed you or you killed boss lol
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10-03-2014, 12:17 AMAndevomPersonally, I could do without such..."fun" augmentations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Estellios
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10-03-2014, 12:20 AMNorthernLadMSP
The sandpits sending you back to the start of the dungeon sounds really funny actually. I'd love to see that.
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10-03-2014, 12:21 AMArtiste
I hate Aurun Vale :(
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10-03-2014, 05:11 AMEstelliosThe only one I hated with a passion was the sending-you-back sandpits, the rest were pretty cool challenges and awareness checks. I think we could use more gimmick dungeons like Wanderer's Palace, to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andevom
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10-03-2014, 09:00 AMSamsta
Yes please!
I would love to have actually hard 4-man content in this game, they are called hard mode dungeons after all. Right now they give crappy gear and have no challenge in them at all, stone vigil hm actually feels a great deal easier than the normal one.
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10-05-2014, 10:53 PMPreypacer
Even if they don't add those specific things, little tricks and such implemented in the same spirit would be great. Anything that switches things up, introduces a bit of randomness, and keeps people on their toes (ie. prevents even veteran runners from falling into too comfortable a "pattern" for each one) is a +, to me.
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10-07-2014, 08:04 AMNestama
What I would personally like the new dungeons to have is a minimal ilvl requirement of 95-100, with loot being around i105 (as a minor gear progression towards Second Binding Coil). With that and trash mobs that are not a simple "gather together, AoE to death, repeat" but actually something with mechanics to them... I'll have faith in the dungeons again.
We also kind of have eleven dungeons and two raids for the newbies/casuals to enjoy or use to gear up for new dungeons... no need to make the 2.4 dungeons require a minimum ilevel of 80 to enter and drop i90 gear. That's just a massive waste. -
10-07-2014, 08:16 AMAlistaire
Instead of this rose-colored glasses nostalgia, let's make HM dungeons of Pharos/Lost City/Hullbreaker. I want a fight Siren just insta-charms people and you have to actually deal with that. I want a fight where nightmare lasts more than 3 seconds and failing mechanics gives serious consequences. I want a fight where you have to actually fight the kraken instead of just a bunch of tentacles.
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10-08-2014, 01:16 AMMjytreszJust curious, aside from glamour, when's the last time you ran a lvl 50 dungeon for gear?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nestama
On a more relevant note, I support this. Also add Ultima HM to Trial Roulette. I wanna see tears. -
10-08-2014, 09:54 PMNestamaLast time I ran a dungeon for gear to upgrade my Jobs? Amdapor Keep back in 2.0 :IQuote:
Originally Posted by Mjytresz
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10-08-2014, 09:58 PMMoqi
As long as they are actually fun and not just an annoyance after the first time...
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10-10-2014, 09:12 AMRyuuIfrit
Now while I do agree with the Pharos/Lost City/Hullbreaker look at the level dungeons and when they are released. They are working up to the HM higher level ones as far as I can tell. All I am saying is when they do GET to DD/CC/AV CONSIDER the 1.0 content. They did address the krakken in Hullbreaker already by saying he will be back in a different dungeon. And why not bring back some of the old content. I mean they did take away from us elemental resistance, BLM spells, DoTs, Ancient Magic (referred from FF11). In reality they made the game a little easier.