Any word on the High/Expert-Level dungeons' loot fix?

Don't remember if this was brought up recently but I was concerned about those dungeons dropping more materials than equipment, which is quite annoying for people that would like the latter for glamour purposes.

Any luck/word on that getting fixed by the time 2.4 comes out?

Adjust*, just saying :P

I'm hoping they make dungeon loot viable for progression purposes first. I'm kinda sick of dungeons being useless for the general population that plays on a regular basis.

Dungeons are great for progression....


Of Desynthesis.

You keep passing all those mats and I will keep on needing them and making gil on the side

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Originally Posted by Songi

I'm hoping they make dungeon loot viable for progression purposes first. I'm kinda sick of dungeons being useless for the general population that plays on a regular basis.

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How do you do that though? With 4 mans at their current difficulty their rewards should never be equivalent to Coil, Token gear by nature is meant to be an alternative to Coil and CT/ST gear is meant to be the "catch-up" set. The only way Dungeon gear works with that tiering is if it's by nature obsolete since it'd have to be inferior to token and CT/ST gear which are behind lockouts and certainly behind Coil gear.

Just saying, this is an example of how vertical progression sort've works against the usefulness of content like 4 mans.

With the rate of current progression these next dungeons will be i90 sets. Which basically helps nobody at this point. At the same time though if you put unlocked i100 sets out at this point you're invalidating ST and making the lockout on Soldiery pointless. They're stuck basically.

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It would help if the game wasn't oversaturated with mythology tomes and allied seals from hunts and roulettes. You easily get 300+day just from roulette alone (excluding any first time bonuses and main story scenario too), +80 for every A rank along with some seals, and now you can get around 16 seals/day just from the daily bill.

Top the allied seal thing allowing you to exchange ilvl 90 gear for as little as 20 seals. Ilvl 90 is practically handed to everyone now, and a dungeon rewarding ilvl 90 would just run into the same problem as our current expert lineup; serving no purpose other than to roulette.

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That's the hole you dig for yourself with all the lock-outs and strict vertical progression though, especially when you undermine your own system with things like hunts which themselves basically invalidated ST from day 1. When everything comes easy the content that gets ignored are the things like dungeons - too long for too little reward. But at the same time if you make dungeon gear better you run into all the problems I described before happen.

In 2.0 you had this progression -

Full AF at 50
Dungeons to i55/i60 (Wanderer's Palace, AK)
Philosophy Tomes to upgrade as you go (Darklight)
Mythology as stretch goal (AF+1)
Relic + Primal weapons to replace Wanderer's Palace or Company Lieutenant Weapons (Or worse)
Coil gear + T5 Weapon as long term goals
CT released to bridge the gap for people (Even though by the time it was released most people were already full i90 on Myth tome items alone)

Except now what actually ends up happening is

AF at 50
Hunt for full i90 and replace with un-weathered soldiery pieces as you go for eventual i110
Get Relic for basically no effort, primal weapons are ignored (Ramuh and Levi are exceptions)
Eventually get your tome weapon from ST
T5 Clear + Second Coil stretch goal

With the exception of the cut out of the HM/EX Primals from this example the other piece that gets lost is Dungeons. They're just trash content at this point which is unfortunate, but basically true.

I personally need those dungeons though for the crafting mats...

I'd prefer it if the last boss does NOT drop crafting mat. Nothing is more annoying to me than getting mats at the end of the dungeon.

Sure, the gear is useless but atleast it can be used for glamor or converted into GC seals.

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Originally Posted by myahele

I'd prefer it if the last boss does NOT drop crafting mat. Nothing is more annoying to me than getting mats at the end of the dungeon.

Sure, the gear is useless but atleast it can be used for glamor or converted into GC seals.

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I wish people would stop grabbing that gear for GC seals when someone needs them though...

I had one party where some guy with i110+ NEEDED on an item i90 when someone in the party had i70. And obviously won. This guy kept doing it too so it was obviously for seals. Kept rolling super high even when other people needed the item and had even stated so before the duty had gone. Everyone else had passed in favor of the person that needed it.

Bosses should drop more than ONE i70 mat at once. Really they should be dropping 8 or 9 at a time like the treasure maps. This will allow the outdated i70 mats to lower in price where they will finally cost less than the 3 stars to make.

This will also give players that craft and desynth a way to level up their desynthesis without tossing millions just to get out of the lvl 75-90 hell that is 2 star territory.

Each boss drops a mat and a piece of gear in each chest.

Fixed.

I need the i70 and i80 for desynth. Which is an actual need of you compair how much Gil I have to spend vs 1 person going and Killing 4 A ranks and being all i90. No dungeon drops i90 gear... only i80, and the i80 gear is rarer then any i90 peice. Also we have retainers that have to be max lvl or we can't get items that don't exsist anywhere else. No one needs i80 gear to use for a job. The Need it for desynth and retainers but not themself.

You know, the mats can be sold for gil.
If you don't want the gil, don't roll need.

I don't mind the mats... But it would be nice if more gear dropped... Taking for ever to i80 my retainers

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Originally Posted by myahele

I'd prefer it if the last boss does NOT drop crafting mat. Nothing is more annoying to me than getting mats at the end of the dungeon.

Sure, the gear is useless but atleast it can be used for glamor or converted into GC seals.

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This is all they need to do. Make is so the last boss always drops a piece of gear.