An alternative solution to housing - Let me buy it with real money

Look, some of us play the game for fun and not to simply farm gil or play the market boards.

You launched services that allow people to pay extra real money for additional retainers.

I propose that you launch a service that allows me to pay real money for a freaking house.

It takes far less time for me to earn $40 real dollars than it does for me to earn 4,000,000 gil.

Additionally, I'd be more than happy to pay a few extra dollars each month to ensure that my house and furnishings don't simply go bye-bye if I can't play the game for 35 days.

Saddest thing is we shouldn't have to. It's pathetic how they've handled this.

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Originally Posted by Parz3val

Saddest thing is we shouldn't have to. It's pathetic how they've handled this.

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Yes, it is, but pretty much everyone else said everything else I would have said, and I really don't want to get banned from the forums for the profanity that I would unleash should I decide to voice my true opinion :D

I will say that this is pretty much the last nail in the coffin for me. Once my paid time runs out, I'll be gone and playing Fantasy Life on my 3DS (music by Uematsu ^^ )

All this is because of "RMT" according to some

But the truth is, Squenix does not mind the RMT unless they are reported/found out or go in excess (with very large amounts in one go).
The solutions to stop RMT are simple but they do not care enough to put those easy stops in.

Easiest way to cripple the RMT?
No more gil drop, at all, from monsters.
Only from quests, challenge log, and whatever else.

Takes far more time for a bot to go through main story than to spam Wanderer's Palace 24/7

No thank you. Please do not lock endgame content behind a cash shop. Anyway, even if this happens, the resulting personal housing will still be something subpar because of SE's inability to upgrade their server infrastructure (due to technical, budgeting, or other reasons).

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Originally Posted by Lazearus

No thank you. Please do not lock endgame content behind a cash shop. Anyway, even if this happens, the resulting personal housing will still be something subpar because of SE's inability to upgrade their server infrastructure (due to technical, budgeting, or other reasons).

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First, if housing is end-game then it shouldn't be walled off behind a gilsink either. Besides, 90% of the forum thinks housing is just vanity and no one should be upset about it being so expensive/limited availability.

Second, I'd be perfectly happy for housing to be paid by either/both methods. Don't force housing to be purchasable only through real money, but allow housing to be purchased for either gil or real money. No one loses that way.

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Originally Posted by TrystWildkey

Yes, it is, but pretty much everyone else said everything else I would have said, and I really don't want to get banned from the forums for the profanity that I would unleash should I decide to voice my true opinion :D

I will say that this is pretty much the last nail in the coffin for me. Once my paid time runs out, I'll be gone and playing Fantasy Life on my 3DS (music by Uematsu ^^ )

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UNLEASH THE KRAKEN!

Haha same for me, though I'm waiting for the NA version of Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate to be released for 3DS.

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Originally Posted by TrystWildkey

Oh, I'd be perfectly happy for housing to be paid by either/both methods. Don't force housing to be purchasable only through real money, but allow housing to be purchased for either gil or real money. No one loses that way.

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Oh, if there's a choice, then I'm fine with it.

Uninstall pls

The suggestion in the OP is RMT. There is no way SE will let gil be buyable legally because that will completely ruin the entire economy.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

The suggestion in the OP is RMT. There is no way SE will let gil be buyable legally because that will completely ruin the entire economy.

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I don't want to buy gil, I want to buy a house.

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Originally Posted by Marquiss

Uninstall pls

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Why is paying for a retainer ok, but paying for a house is reason to suggest that I leave the game?

Neither are truly game breaking.

Explain?

As you've already explained, it's easier to make $40 than it is to make 4 million gil. It completely throws the game's economy out of balance. It makes gil near worthless. Housing is one of the only uses for gil.

I'll throw my support behind it. I would much rather just buy a large plot with money rather than try to farm up the ridiculous amounts of gil necessary for it. Is it ideal? No, I'd much rather they lower the price. I also wish they would add more plots. Do I think either's happening? Nope. But I do support the option to buy with real money.

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Originally Posted by Kalandros

All this is because of "RMT" according to some

But the truth is, Squenix does not mind the RMT unless they are reported/found out or go in excess (with very large amounts in one go).
The solutions to stop RMT are simple but they do not care enough to put those easy stops in.

Easiest way to cripple the RMT?
No more gil drop, at all, from monsters.
Only from quests, challenge log, and whatever else.

Takes far more time for a bot to go through main story than to spam Wanderer's Palace 24/7

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I very much doubt this would have a significant impact because RMTers get their gil from a variety of ways.
Some is from stolen / hacked accounts
Some they buy from rich end game people who quit and sell their account for a few $
Some run a bot from just creates a character, does a start quest, delete, repeat
And on and on

Dont mean to be rude, but i believe my suggestion falls under an alternative.

f you really really want an affordable personal house then will you consider moving to another server? ie Jenova. The cost is abt 1mil for a cottage and there are plentiful of them.

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Originally Posted by gamewyler

Dont mean to be rude, but i believe my suggestion falls under an alternative.

f you really really want an affordable personal house then will you consider moving to another server? ie Jenova. The cost is abt 1mil for a cottage and there are plentiful of them.

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Yes leave your friends behind, your linkshells behind, your guild behind, all your gil except 2mil. Just to buy a house which will then cost half your money. BEST IDEA EVER.

I support this idea. It actually helps prevent RMT which officially seems to drive every decision Yoshi makes. I have not been able to save much money in ARR but I brought about 25 million with me from 1.23 (in the form of cracked materia) and I have been setting this aside to buy a mansion which I was sure would be easily manageable. Now on the new wards it is 70 million with the lowest possible amount being 35 million! If I was a million short I might just go ahead and save that money but being 43 million short, I don't see another realistic option to buying from gil seller. Now I won't purely out of principle but I bet some other people will and SE has now vastly increased the gil sellers demand just because of their pathetic server implementation but used RMT as an excuse...

No thank you.

This is a terrible idea.
RMT is a slippery slope. As you have pointed out, they already do it with retainers. Now people like you are using that as a reason to extend the concept to things like housing. It needs to stop here.
Paying rl money for extra retainers is bad enough, it doesnt need to slide any further down that road.

Its a game. You pay the entry fee, for access (aka subscription). After that everyone is/should be on the same level playing field. RL money should mean absolutely nothing beyond admission to the game.

The day this game adds a cash shop is the day i quit, and I wont be the only one.

what's so great about housing anyway? I spent millions for my personal room and barely go back in there for awhile now.

As someone who managed to snag a small plot, I think SE handled this in the worst way possible. It's absurd to lock gardening and choco stables behind housing and then make it impossible for the vast majority of your players to get said housing. It's nice for the plots to be a little bit exclusive, but the only fair way to have done this would've been to make everyone's personal house instanced, which is what they should've done. If I -wasn't- lucky enough to get a plot, I would be quitting for sure. All I've done for the past few months is hoard gil and housing items because of how excited I was for it.