only been about 4 hrs after patch.....

almost every single small house on my server is gone already.

most of those are being purchased by the ppl with large pockets of gil but don't want to spend 12+mil on a medium or large house.

now the other 15,000+ on my server that saved for a house cant even get one.

thank you se for all the hard work destroying all of our hard work and hopes

Same deal on Balmung, my friends were going to purchase three houses, but not within the first HOUR, all of the houses were GONE.

Wow...did SE ever think that maybe with such HUGE SERVER POPULATIONS, that they would need a lot of housing?

First come, First serve, this is how housing has worked since release, except since they were not as expensive they go faster, and yet people were complaining about the prices..how ironic.

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First come, First serve, this is how housing has worked since release, except since they were not as expensive they go faster, and yet people were complaining about the prices..how ironic.

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The expense being that the average person doesn't have a chance to get together, for the few plots that were made available, causing them to be competed not just by the rich, but the fcs as well.

This is a fiasco of SE's making.

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First come, First serve, this is how housing has worked since release, except since they were not as expensive they go faster, and yet people were complaining about the prices..how ironic.

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they didnt even make enough land for a high population server to have even 10% of it's player base to be able to get a house

didn't even make a new zone for it they just got lazy

http://s4.postimg.org/8h0xf39u5/bwaahahaha.png

I have no neighbours :(

Hahaha. On Tonberry, every single small plot of land was taken within the first 10 minutes of the servers being up.

I was hoping for a nice cozy small house in mist, but my dream got crushed when I logged in T_T

cheapest house available on my server atm is just shy of 4m

edit: nope just checked again, its gone

Seriously, this is straight up stupid.

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First come, First serve, this is how housing has worked since release, except since they were not as expensive they go faster, and yet people were complaining about the prices..how ironic.

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Yeah I'll wake up at 7 am just to buy a house I could never even afford yet. When every single plot of land is taken leaving only multi-million gil mansions left on the market, and a TON of angry players as this update wasn't out for over an hour, and yet EVERY SMALL HOUSE that people were going to wake up and go buy one, didn't realize how half-assed SE got and decided to not even put in more wards.

Is it my fault that I want to do a thing called sleep? How is that fair that those who aren't awake at the time, get shafted for the long term without any kind of reprieve unless it's above 5mil?


Is that a fair system? First come first serve only goes so far until there's nothing left, andd when it's gone in under an hour, there's a huge problem that they underestimated the demand BIG TIME.

In my world after 3 hours from launch in Lavender Beds only 5 small houses are free. Most of houses are bought by players, not by FC

They aren't putting in the hardware for more Wards until next month... At which point they are at least doubling the Wards. Chill and wait a bit more. People were so uppity about housing the Devs probably felt forced so instead of waiting for 2.4 they put out a couple of more Wards. What the Devs need to do is not cave to player pressure.

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They aren't putting in the hardware for more Wards until next month... At which point they are at least doubling the Wards. Chill and wait a bit more. People were so uppity about housing the Devs probably felt forced so instead of waiting for 2.4 they put out a couple of more Wards. What the Devs need to do is not cave to player pressure.

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Here's a sad fact, doubling the wards will not mitigate the fact that someone will be left out in the end. The real problem stems from the fact that the timing of the update was horrible for NA players. Most of us were asleep after getting home from class/work the prior night. If you just open the servers at 7 am again, the other players who are all nighters will scoop up the new houses that get made, and more mansions will sit empty.

Here's my solution. Remove the mansions in the new wards if by patch 2.4 a large majority of mansions remain vacant. If people aren't going to fork over 15,000,000 gil for something like that, then they won't be needed. It's as simple and clean cut as that.

* A large amount of additional land is also scheduled for implementation in patch 2.4.

Hopefully, there will be enough for everyone.

you'd think a rational developer would've done instanced housing to 1. allow accessability 2. allieviate servers

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Originally Posted by Midori_Nabooru

* A large amount of additional land is also scheduled for implementation in patch 2.4.

Hopefully, there will be enough for everyone.

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With thousands of players, the amount of wards needed to be implemented is going to need to me massive. We're not talking about 8 extra wards or so here. But ultimately we're talking around 200 wards on populated servers. With hardware issues being a problem right now, I wonder how they're looking to multiply the number of wards by such a figure.

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Yeah I'll wake up at 7 am just to buy a house I could never even afford yet. When every single plot of land is taken leaving only multi-million gil mansions left on the market, and a TON of angry players as this update wasn't out for over an hour, and yet EVERY SMALL HOUSE that people were going to wake up and go buy one, didn't realize how half-assed SE got and decided to not even put in more wards.

Is it my fault that I want to do a thing called sleep? How is that fair that those who aren't awake at the time, get shafted for the long term without any kind of reprieve unless it's above 5mil?


Is that a fair system? First come first serve only goes so far until there's nothing left, andd when it's gone in under an hour, there's a huge problem that they underestimated the demand BIG TIME.

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I think in your rage you forgot the important part First come, first serve just like real life if the supply of something is low and demand is high, if someone snatches it up an hour before you woke up, you can't get really get mad at the salesmen, it's not about being fair, you just didn't get it fast enough, (not you in particular)

You should know full well how updates work, if people know something will be taken fast, they will rush to it as fast as possible if they are able to get it.

I find it funny the response in the Japanese section was basically "But don't worry, prices will bottom out like with 2.1!" and I'm just sitting here thinking, "You DO know the houses will be gone well before it ever gets to that point right?"

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First come, First serve, this is how housing has worked since release, except since they were not as expensive they go faster, and yet people were complaining about the prices..how ironic.

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You're joking, right? You can't see how poorly implemented personal housing is if they can't even provide enough small houses for 1% of the server? GTFO.

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You're joking, right? You can't see how poorly implemented personal housing is if they can't even provide enough small houses for 1% of the server? GTFO.

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Are YOU serious? my comment was not about how poorly they were implemented, it was directed towards people complaining they couldn't get the small houses fast enough, (which would be the cheapest, therefore would go the fastest)

The servers haven't even been up for 12 hours yet and all the small houses on those severs are GONE. There is no way to defend that terrible supply.

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Wow...did SE ever think that maybe with such HUGE SERVER POPULATIONS, that they would need a lot of housing?

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They thought about it, but there's some reluctance to drop millions of $ on server upgrade, until they really really have to. Housing enthusiasts would argue they shoulda got more servers already.

Patch 2.4 will add more land and plots.

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Patch 2.4 will add more land and plots.

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Why in the world would be beleive them after this?

Honestly. i can deal with the lack of spaces for now. The prices are my big issue. The prices are ridiculous and totally not what we told would be.

How about I know people whoclaim they bought 3 houses on 3 charcters/1 account for 3 gardening beds because it's only 13 mil vs 70 million for a mansion? That's where the stupidly of price comes in.

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Honestly. i can deal with the lack of spaces for now. The prices are my big issue. The prices are ridiculous and totally not what we told would be.

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Lots of small houses only 1.5M on adamantoise. Price isn't that much more than the ~850k they speculated.

There is no way that someone, even if they have been scrimping and saving from the start can afford the most expensive large housing. Medium housing is still a stretch for most money makers. 30 million gil?

Pretty sure if we see medium/large houses going it will be to gil buyers.

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There is no way that someone, even if they have been scrimping and saving from the start can afford the most expensive large housing. Medium housing is still a stretch for most money makers. 30 million gil?

Pretty sure if we see medium/large houses going it will be to gil sellers.

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You meant gil buyers right? RMT guys aren't playing the game to own a house you know...

Logged in about 2.5 hours after servers went up and got one of the last few small plots available in the Goblet. By then, the Mists and LB plots were all taken.

I really debated buying now vs. waiting, but I'm just glad I won't have to deal with SE's infrastructure woes anymore. I feel bad though for people who are shut out even longer.

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You meant gil buyers right? RMT guys aren't playing the game to own a house you know...

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Mwuah, it might actually be of interest to them to buy up as many plots as soon as possible. The more plots in RMT guys' hands, the more they dominate farming plots. By dominating farming plots, they can dominate e.g. the onion market. And pretty much set the price on those items. That way they can get back the gil they can in turn sell again to people for buying onions. Pure marketing brilliance right? ;)


Plus on a more serious note I don't believe it's required for people to buy gil in order to have accumulated enough gil for a large house right now. Myself I don't really bother too much with obtaining gil, but gain approximately 2 million per month in the current rate. I'm pretty sure that people who actually are bothered with it can easily net in around 20 - 30 million gil per month if desired. With the game being on the market for over a year now, I wouldn't be surprised for numerous players to have 100+ million on their balances.

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gain approximately 2 million per month in the current rate. I'm pretty sure that people who actually are bothered with it can easily net in around 20 - 30 million gil per month if desired.

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I tend to make anywhere from 150k to 600k per spiritbond session, and I easily made around 5 mil over the past few weeks. So, yeah, raising 20 mil solo wouldn't be that big of a deal for someone who really wanted a bigger personal house.

It's funny, some servers pay more because they have more people and are more active but don't get more plots... funny how things work better one way than the other.

Let's forget 2 seconds the fact they are stupid enough to think 1 player should be able to pay the same as a whole group of people if he wants a plot and do some math.

Just doing the small plot for fun, there's 3 regions x 8 instances x 20 plots they intend to double this at the 2.4 so 960. Ragnarok s plots are already sold out (they were in less than 30min), so there is actually 480 plots coming at the 2.4 for more than 2k of players

I guess if you're able to log in before the 2 hours after the 2.4 you have your chances. Housing, a casual experiences so fun to blow steam... Good job SE, just keep ignoring everyone, rush content you're not able to implement. On your way to repeat the same mistake the 1.0 did.

This is exactly what i was worried about... I've never complained about the decisions they have made in this game, in fact I have defended them on many occasions even if I didnt quite understand why they did something a particular way. But this... Makes no sense. This was my last hope for getting a choco stable and home to live in, I guess its time to setup my new home.

http://www.tomthumb.org/wp-content/u...2/12/tramp.jpg

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Lots of small houses only 1.5M on adamantoise. Price isn't that much more than the ~850k they speculated.

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On Legacy small is a little over 5 Mil. I have 6 mil, I'm not about to blow all that on a house when I already have two FC houses which is exactly the same. I wasn't super hyped for housing anyways but I can totally understand why people are mad about the prices & the fact they have to share wards with FCs.

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You meant gil buyers right? RMT guys aren't playing the game to own a house you know...

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Yes i ment buyers x.x editing now

I was worried about this situation as well, but then I logged in around noon eastern time, meandered over to the goblet, walked around checking out locations for about 20 minutes before finally settling on plot 15 in ward 4 for 2.4 million. I don't think any property had been purchased in the new wards yet and there were still a couple left in ward 2. It was pretty surprising.

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I was worried about this situation as well, but then I logged in around noon eastern time, meandered over to the goblet, walked around checking out locations for about 20 minutes before finally settling on plot 15 in ward 4 for 2.4 million. I don't think any property had been purchased in the new wards yet and there were still a couple left in ward 2. It was pretty surprising.

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The Goblet is the least popular of the housing zones, though... If you were to check the other housing areas on your server you'd be in for a nasty surprise.

To wit, as of this posting there are NO small houses left in Mist on my server, only 5 smalls left in Lavender Beds and...........27 smalls left in the Goblet. >__>

There is a serious dearth of housing space available, and unless you're willing to settle on a house in the Goblet (or pool together with a bunch of friends to try for a M or L in one of the other zones), you're SoL until 2.4.

Just checked mist on excalibur and all but 10 plots are gone. And checked ul'dah and gridania, both in the sam situation