Remote Play- How do you like it?

I about a month I will be upgrading my PS3 to a PS4. I already have a vita- so I want to know from those players that have used the remote play. How do you like it? What do you use it for and what will you NOT use it for? Pro's/ Con's. Anyone?

I'm on the fence. It's really choppy a lot even when I'm next to my ps4. Try not to be too talkative because it's hard to type with. I use it mainly for fishing so it's okay. Just wish my vita would vibrrate when I catch a fish. :p

I've done ST and roulettes with it as healer, tank and dps and it works as intended. I might try coil if it weren't for some glaring issues. Minor gripes include no "touch" interface (basically a glorified mouse pad) and stupidly hard to tap the back pad for L2, L3 and R2, R3. But all in all it works and that's impressive enough. Also assume you have good isp. I was able to play from my basement with my PS4 upstairs.

Well I work two nights (as in grave yard shift) at a hotel and was thinking of using it for crafting basically. At home, it mainly will be used for dailies. I was not sure how it would be in dungeons, but if it works basically the same then I will use it in dungeon when I'm home.

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Originally Posted by KisaValkyrie

I about a month I will be upgrading my PS3 to a PS4. I already have a vita- so I want to know from those players that have used the remote play. How do you like it? What do you use it for and what will you NOT use it for? Pro's/ Con's. Anyone?

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I only used it twice and really only gathered some stuff but I dont see how combat would be very difficult. Its a little awkward (and adds to the lag) so I wouldnt do any group dungeons/raids with remote play.

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Originally Posted by KisaValkyrie

Well I work two nights (as in grave yard shift) at a hotel and was thinking of using it for crafting basically. At home, it mainly will be used for dailies. I was not sure how it would be in dungeons, but if it works basically the same then I will use it in dungeon when I'm home.

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Wait you want to play from work? I dont think thats possible, last I checked both consoles have to be in the same network to work at all, and the Vita in the same room as the wifi router or it wont work well. This was back around PS4's release so I could be wrong. Maybe with this Playstation Now thing theyve improved network play dramatically.

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Originally Posted by Kayo

Wait you want to play from work? I dont think thats possible, last I checked both consoles have to be in the same network to work at all, and the Vita in the same room as the wifi router or it wont work well. This was back around PS4's release so I could be wrong. Maybe with this Playstation Now thing theyve improved network play dramatically.

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this is incorrect I play over my works wifi just fine since the PS4 version came out.

There is a small amount of lag (about half a second) that can mess you up but I have not had these horrible experiences that some seem to. When connecting to your PS4 directly there is virtually no lag. There is about half a second lag when playing over wifi, I dont own a 3g model so I cant comment on that. When connecting using remote play I highly suggest you change some of your buttons around, namely swap the R2 with R1 and the L2 with L1 so that you dont have to use the back touchpad much I also suggest disabling R3. Change the settings so that the screen touch is only used as a push (disable its mouse function) and you essentially have it working rather easily. As far as quality I have done everything but coil at work over wifi. I mostly play healer and once you get used to the 0.5s lag its really not bad at all (again this is reduced connected directly to the PS4 to pretty much unnoticeable). Sometimes the screen will artifact but that almost always clears up in like 1~2 seconds.

Thanks for the info!

I tried playing on the Vita and I don't like it for one main reason...I have my cross hotbars set up so that my default hotbar with out-of-combat skills when my weapon is sheather and then to change to another hotbar with my battle skills when I R3 to draw my weapon. On the Vita, there is no R3 obviously so the Vita automatically unsheathe my weapon and switch to the battle hotbar. I have to use the main menu to change my stance or select any commands from basically breaking the experience for me...so I don't bother. Might be okay for gathering or fishing since I only have one cross hotbar for those, but otherwise - useless with that set up.

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Originally Posted by Yurimi

this is incorrect I play over my works wifi just fine since the PS4 version came out.

There is a small amount of lag (about half a second) that can mess you up but I have not had these horrible experiences that some seem to. When connecting to your PS4 directly there is virtually no lag. There is about half a second lag when playing over wifi, I dont own a 3g model so I cant comment on that. When connecting using remote play I highly suggest you change some of your buttons around, namely swap the R2 with R1 and the L2 with L1 so that youdont have to use the back touchpad much I also suggest disabling R3. Change the settings so that the screen touch is only used as a push (disable its mouse function) and you essentially have it working rather easily. As far as quality I have done everything but coil at work over wifi. I mostly play healer and once you get used to the 0.5s lag its really not bad at all (again this is reduced connected directly to the PS4 to pretty much unnoticeable). Sometimes the screen will artifact but that almost always clears up in like 1~2 seconds.

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Ok, when you say "wifi" do you mean the same network? Or are you connecting with your Vita, from work, over the internet (aka WAN), to your PS4 at home, and its playable? Just wondering, like I said I never bothered to try since pretty much every single hands-on video or demonstration I saw of remote play with Vita<>PS4 said it didnt work. Including this one http://kotaku.com/ps4-remote-play-pu...est-1464725207 which says:

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Sony recommends that you keep your Vita and PS4 on the same WiFi network for optimal use, but just for kicks, I also tested with other Kotaku staffers to see if we could get this thing working with different WiFi networks. Could Patricia use her Vita from San Francisco to control my PS4 in NYC? Nope. Could I use my Vita from uptown Manhattan to control Evan's PS4 downtown? Nope. Other permutations were equally unsuccessful.

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.... again, these are release tests. Im sure theyve since made some advancements to it since then but im still skeptical that itll work over the internet. Even my own tests at both mine and parents home showed it was unstable if you got too far from the router (again, coinciding with other videos like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miBEL9_Gy_s), much less over the web.

You DO NOT have to be on the same network in order to use Remote Play to play XIV. I take my Vita to my parents/in-laws and use their WiFi to turn on my PS4 remotely and boot it up etc.

Yea I heard that as long as you are connected to a network- you can connect to your PS4. Although I'm told it doesn't always work.

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Originally Posted by stuscott

On the Vita, there is no R3 obviously so the Vita automatically unsheathe my weapon and switch to the battle hotbar. I have to use the main menu to change my stance or select any commands from basically breaking the experience for me...so I don't bother. Might be okay for gathering or fishing since I only have one cross hotbar for those, but otherwise - useless with that set up.

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There's a R3 (and L3) button, the back touchpad is split into an upper and lower part, so there's a button in each corner.
Fishing isn't really convenient with it, as you don't have the rumble feedback and the screen is rather small to watch the fishing rod, so you only have the sound cues for catching.

In the italian official Playstation forums some users where asking why Remote Play didn't work from different networks, a staff member answered that Sony recommends a network speed of 5 MB download/ 1 MB upload, wich is pretty hard to have in Italy at all... so yeah, I only use it when I'm home, but it's great for crafting.

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Originally Posted by A-Shock

You DO NOT have to be on the same network in order to use Remote Play to play XIV. I take my Vita to my parents/in-laws and use their WiFi to turn on my PS4 remotely and boot it up etc.

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I can confirm this 100%. I play from work on my PS4 at home all the time. The Vita will first look for the PS4 on the local network, then check the internet. As long as you set up your Vita ahead of time, it will connect. That being said, I only do crafting, gathering, etc. I find the combat (I'm a tank) to be difficult, but YMMV.

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Like it but the buttons being used through the back pad is sooo annoying. It messes me up because of how I am used to holding the vita.

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Originally Posted by Kayo

Ok, when you say "wifi" do you mean the same network? Or are you connecting with your Vita, from work, over the internet (aka WAN), to your PS4 at home, and its playable? Just wondering, like I said I never bothered to try since pretty much every single hands-on video or demonstration I saw of remote play with Vita<>PS4 said it didnt work.

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I play from work to my PS4 at home. The connection is stable with only the occasional hiccup, I have also used the starbucks wifi to my PS4 at home though it was kinda spotty. It has some lag (around half a second) but otherwise it is for the most part rather reliable. I have been using the feature since I got FFXIV on my PS4 and before that I would use it to stream some things. it is however to note that a lot of businesses (including the airport near me) block the ports used to connect to your PS4 at home. The Vita does do a network stability test to see if your connection will hold so both your PS4 at home and the connection you are using while outside your home need to be sufficient in order to support it. If you get the "Turning your PS4 on" then it shows "Checking network" and stays like that for prolonged period of time a couple things may be happening.
1) your ports are blocked on 1 end or the other
2) I personally have had issues with it finalizing the connection if an update is waiting to install
3) its picked up a connected device (keyboard or controller) and wants me to log in to a specific user (easiest fix for this problem is before you leave unplug everything from your PS4)

Make sure your PS4 is set to auto log in as a user as you must be logged in to make a connection.

outside of these I have not had any issue using it remotely playing FFXIV, Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeros, Towerfall: Ascension, or any other PS4 game while I am outside and my PS4 is at home.

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Originally Posted by Vallug

Like it but the buttons being used through the back pad is sooo annoying. It messes me up because of how I am used to holding the vita.

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If you customize the buttons you can disable the backpad for R3 or L3 (but not both) and the settings for remote play and regular play are saved seperate so your customized controls wont affect if you are playing on the PS4 itself.

The touchscreens get in the way and I also found that prolonged play started hurting my hands. I grabbed a shell to change it up a bit which helps but it still gets cramped. If I could turn off the back touchpad without eliminating required functions, I'd do it.
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Performance wise is fine. I can run dungeons and even Syrcus Tower with it. Targeting can be a bit strange though.

Fishing while chilling in the garden... for the 5 days you can sit in the garden in the great British summer xD I've never ran dungeons on it, just done gathering, but I don't see why the easier ones (so, any expert/HM etc) would be a problem.

As for remote play over the internet, I've not had it working as my internet is terribad. My friend used his at work though and he was running Amdapor Keep over 4G with a fairly reliable connection, and it seemed to be working out ok!

Love it! Just did Shantotto from Wegman's WiFi while listening to a cover band they had.

For the most part it works to connect from a different network as long as the wifi is fast enough where you are. Remote Play makes this game so much cooler and accessible.

It takes some serious getting used to with the button positions but once you do it can be very fun to play remotely. Only thing I wouldn't do is coil with it, everything else is no problem. Great for casual activities such as hunting, plus I don't have to stop playing to go to the bathroom. I wish my vita wasn't broken right now. It will be great for football season.

You fine doing stuff like CT2 and dungeons but I wouldn't do like stuff where lag can kill you like coil 2.

Most of the people I know use it for crafting and/or gathering.