Did someone discover a Get Rich Quick scheme in Eorzea, or...

... have people simply lost their minds when pricing gear they're selling on the MW.

Was perusing through the MW tonight (haven't really given it a look since I started over again) and the prices of the gear I'm seeing are, to put it extremely mildly, beyond ridiculous.

1,000,000 for a level 6 body piece?
10,000,000 for a level 18?
999,999,999 each for 3 of the same low level item; each one listed by different people.

The most "reasonable" price I saw was 80,000 for a rank 12 or 13. I didn't look much beyond that 'cause the prices were about to make me sick (not really, but you get the idea).

So, have people found a way to 'get rick quick' in FFXIV, are people really just that greedy, or are they trying to scare away new players with an out-of-control economy? Is it a way to try and "encourage" new players to pick up crafting early so they can make all their own stuff?

What exactly happened to the prices during my time away from XIV? Why have they gotten so insane?

P.S. For those who might take my subject line as a literal question, don't. I'm being facetious.

is this your first MMO? Normally people put outrageous prices on the most inconceivable things to SAVE ROOM on their character, bazaar, retainer.

Yes, the get-rich-quick scheme is simply known as playing the game.

Out of all of XIV's faults, I don't know if they'll EVER be able to fix the economy. ;;

I can only think of why someone would price something like that: to not lose their "spot" on the MW.

I'm not really sure if you retainer disappears once all of the items are sold, but if people think that happens they'll sell stuff for those prices so nobody can buy them and therefor never sell everything.

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Originally Posted by Richardd

is this your first MMO? Normally people put outrageous prices on the most inconceivable things to SAVE ROOM on their character, bazaar, retainer.

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No it's not my first MMO. Not by a long shot.

It is the first MMO I've played where every single item I see listed on the MW (Auction House, what-have-you) is set at ridiculous prices.

If it was a few items here and there, fine... I could see that. But every single one?

I went through several pages, in a number of categories. It was the same thing throughout.

If it didn't seem so out of the ordinary, I wouldn't have asked in the first place :).

There are not a lot of people making low level gear, so the few that are can sell it for insane prices. Good to time to level a crafter though as all that gear can be made at low levels. Once people realize there is a demand to that gear again, they will start making it and prices will plummet.

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Originally Posted by Murugan

There are not a lot of people making low level gear, so the few that are can sell it for insane prices. Good to time to level a crafter though as all that gear can be made at low levels. Once people realize there is a demand to that gear again, they will start making it and prices will plummet.

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Agreed.

I guess they're only targeting advanced players starting on new classes or something, 'cause I can't imagine anyone in their right mind expecting brand-new players to have that kind of money.

I've already decided that I'm going to craft my own gear, and then sell other items I craft at prices I would expect a newer player to be able to afford without breaking themself. Charging those kind of prices for low level gear is just... I can't even think of a single word good enough to describe it lol.

Thanks for the response :)

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Originally Posted by Kaizlu

I can only think of why someone would price something like that: to not lose their "spot" on the MW.

I'm not really sure if you retainer disappears once all of the items are sold, but if people think that happens they'll sell stuff for those prices so nobody can buy them and therefor never sell everything.

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That's a possibility, I suppose. Though, I've seen multiple items being sold by one person, each for the same obnoxious prices. If the goal was merely to 'keep their MW spot', I'd think they would only need one item priced like that, no?

Thanks for the reply.

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Originally Posted by miqokini

Yes, the get-rich-quick scheme is simply known as playing the game.

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Indeed... In Rank 1 gear lol.

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Originally Posted by miqokini

Out of all of XIV's faults, I don't know if they'll EVER be able to fix the economy. ;;

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Unless SE was to step in and place an arbitrary cap on prices, or impose really high tax % on high-ticket prices, that would come down solely to the players to control.

Thanks for the reply.

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Originally Posted by Preypacer

That's a possibility, I suppose. Though, I've seen multiple items being sold by one person, each for the same obnoxious prices. If the goal was merely to 'keep their MW spot', I'd think they would only need one item priced like that, no?

Thanks for the reply.

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There is a lack of those items being sold so people put them up for high prices because they have no competition. Before 1.18 brought loads of people back to the game there just wasn't much of a demand for such low level gear, now there is a demand. All it takes is some enterprising crafter (either someone who leveled it a long time ago, or a new player taking up a craft) to realize this and exploit that demand for a big profit while leveling by undercutting those fools until prices are more reasonable.

In the meantime there is no reason you should be buying something at that level that is more than 20-30k gil, in fact some of the stuff you can buy from NPC's for less (look them up on a database such as ffxiv.yg.com), instead try and get some gear from guildleves/sidequests (list of sidequests here) from that new Garlean invasion thing or find a crafter friend you can commission to make the items for you. That is what we all did when we first started the game.

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Originally Posted by Murugan

There is a lack of those items being sold so people put them up for high prices because they have no competition. Before 1.18 brought loads of people back to the game there just wasn't much of a demand, now there is a demand. All it takes some enterprising crafter (either someone who leveled it a long time ago, or a new player taking up a craft) to realize this and exploit that demand for a big profit while leveling by undercutting those fools until prices are more reasonable.

In the meantime there is no reason you should be buying something at that level that is more than 20-30k gil, in fact some of the stuff you can buy from NPC's for less (look them up on a database such as ffxiv.yg.com), instead try and get some gear from guildleves/sidequests (list of sidequests here) from that new Garlean invasion thing or find a crafter friend you can commission to make the items for you. That is what we all did when we first started the game.

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Well let's hope there are some enterprising crafters out there paying attention.

I'd gladly buy a set of lower rank gear from someone - for a reasonable price - if they were willing to craft it. I could hunt down some of the materials as well if necessary. You can see my levels in my sig; I'm pretty much ready for an upgrade I think :-p.

I intend on crafting it myself as of now, but it would be a lot easier to be able to buy some of it outright. Not like I have much use for any of my gil otherwise anyway atm. Though, that will probably change once I start having to get mats for my own crafts...

As for undercutting... Yeah, seriously. Personally, I'm looking to charge lower prices for my stuff once I can reliably craft useful gear, but it's not even with the intention of undercutting anyone; but just to help other newer/lower level players actually get their hands on some better gear.

When I first started out on my original character back at retail launch, my gear was a mix of my own crafts, LS-mates crafting, a few purchases from the MW, and stuff from quests... So it was kind of a mixed bag there. I'll look into those quests, though. Thanks for the link.

Thanks for the response.

Retarded prices = "I ran out of space and am using the bazaar as extra inventory. If you are so dumb to buy the item, more power to you."

didnt read all posts, but most uses their bazaar as extra storage space so thats why some high prices

You can get alot of starting gear from sidequests as well as levequest! enjoy your stay.

This is what happens when we:

1. Don't have an AH
2. Don't have enough gold sinks for the amount of gil coming in
3. Don't have a cap on trade
4. All of the above.


(I pick 4)

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Originally Posted by Kaizlu

I can only think of why someone would price something like that: to not lose their "spot" on the MW.

I'm not really sure if you retainer disappears once all of the items are sold, but if people think that happens they'll sell stuff for those prices so nobody can buy them and therefor never sell everything.

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No, people set retardedly-high price to decorate their retainer, since nobody will buy those stuff, meaning the retainers get to wear those clothes. I'm actually amazed this has been made into a thread on its own, again, and some answers actually miss it all the way...

For those insanely priced items, I always assumed they did that so their retainers would look/be dressed in a certain way (seeing as your retainer can model the equipment you're making them sell) and nothing more. Even the seller should realize no one's going to buy, let's say, a cotton doublet for 1 million gil...

They're called "leves pre-1.18."

i sell an item at 999k to not lose my retainer spot. Someone should go buy my 999k distilled water. You know you want to itssuch a bargin.

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Originally Posted by miqokini

Yes, the get-rich-quick scheme is simply known as playing the game.

Out of all of XIV's faults, I don't know if they'll EVER be able to fix the economy. ;;

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This couldn't be more truthful, especially with the way the leves handed out gil like Reichsmarks...seriously, like the Germans, we were burning currency to keep warm.

Also, I don't know what town you checked but did you try looking in Uldah's wards? That seems to be where most people park their retainers on my server and so that's where you find the best prices/selection. I just bought rank 20ish gears for my archer yesterday and while my colors are slightly mis-matched, everything was fairly priced.

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Originally Posted by mysterytaru

This couldn't be more truthful, especially with the way the leves handed out gil like Reichsmarks...seriously, like the Germans, we were burning currency to keep warm.

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Then I don't know why some people are complaining about how they need to fork out gil to get their stuff repair, and that the new durability penalty upon Death need to go.

supply and demand. If people are stupid enough to buy gear at those prices then the prices will never go down.


Also you can ignore the 999,999,999 ones there normally people who are just stocking gear they want to keep on there retainers.

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Originally Posted by MariyaShidou

Then I don't know why some people are complaining about how they need to fork out gil to get their stuff repair, and that the new durability penalty upon Death need to go.

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Newbies who didn't do a lot of leves and/or spent their gil on shards.

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Originally Posted by tymora

Retarded prices = "I ran out of space and am using the bazaar as extra inventory. If you are so dumb to buy the item, more power to you."

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This is it right here.

the 9999999999's are people saving space, but dont want to lose the item.

the 1000000 on rank 12 pieces are people saving space but dont really mind selling it for an absurd price.

Or it might be a +3 item. and even then, i wouldnt by a +3 rank 12 peice of any gear lol.

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Originally Posted by mysterytaru

This couldn't be more truthful, especially with the way the leves handed out gil like Reichsmarks...seriously, like the Germans, we were burning currency to keep warm.

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Wheelbarrow full of gil for a bottle of milk.

As of 1.18 the quest rewards have gotten really crappy, the only thing i ever see as a reward on leves other than gil is food items, which is rather annoying.

um...

typos, in the wrong freakin topic lol

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Originally Posted by Laughlyn

um...

* Mail / delivery system.
* Proper LS management options, such as kick, promote (with promotion names)
* Player titles.
* Option to sign crafted gear / weapons etc.
* Personal / LS housing
* Some kind of system to enchant / engrave gear/weapons. (hopefully materia crafting will be like this)
* Really...Really....Hard to get gear/weapons, possible "Dynamis" upgradeable gear / weapons. (Something to work hard to get / upgrade)
* Gardening ; ;
* Random Treasure Chest spawns in caves / certain areas etc.

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... I think you may have made a wrong turn at Albequerque... >.>



(wrong thread?)

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Originally Posted by Kinseykinz

Also, I don't know what town you checked but did you try looking in Uldah's wards? That seems to be where most people park their retainers on my server and so that's where you find the best prices/selection. I just bought rank 20ish gears for my archer yesterday and while my colors are slightly mis-matched, everything was fairly priced.

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Yeah I actually specifically checked Ul'dah since I know that's currently the "Jeuno" of XIV.

I've decided I'll just keep working at my synths and craft my own stuff as well as see what I can get from some quests. Soon as I can consistently crank out good, usable gear, I'll start selling it... for realistic prices.

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Originally Posted by Preypacer

... I think you may have made a wrong turn at Albequerque... >.>

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lol shit wrong freakin topic

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lol shit wrong freakin topic

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lol that's what I figured :-p

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lol shit wrong freakin topic

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I lol'd at your mistake...
Then i looked at your signature with the list of your linkshells, Creampie, i lol'd harder

The reason why there's so little low ranked armour is that it's not tangible in anyway for high ranking crafters to make low ranked armour.

Well, when we finally (hopefully) get an AH they can set penalties on the auction house like in other mmo's so if you are putting an item up for auction you should make sure it is at a reasonable price to sell because if it doesn't then you lose the fee that you had to pay to put the item up for auction. once that get implemented it will be easier to find reasonable priced stuff. or if they don't do an auction house then they need to make that happen with the retainers... like the retainer charges you a fee to try and sell an item for you and if it sells in so many days then you make a profit and if not then you lose the fee and you have to put the item back up for sell again. i think that would help a lot with the economy in the game and get things at a reasonable price. what do you all think?

Before when guildleves were main leveling and people were raking in gil, the prices of the nm gear didn't seem so bad due to effort to craft it together and the effort to get the item, then take into account the amount of gil people had. If you don't do guildleves you will see the amount of gil you have steadily decrease, so i wonder if these prices will last when people have less money. But then again no one has anything to spend gil on if they don't buy those nm gear pieces an instead had them crafted