Please eliminate the need for manually keeping track of Hunt target "Pop window"

It would be nice to have an implementation of a quest that allows you to acquire an ability to "bring up a map" that shows each area's A, B, S ranks' cool down window pop timer.

Once the Hunt is killed, the window timer then automatically resets.

The idea for this is so that you wouldn't have to manually keep track or look up Hunt information.

It would be nice if everything Hunt related stayed in-game, keeping the info more reliable and less manual.

Meh, better to have there not be an easier way for even more people to show up at once.

What they need is something to track what hunts youve gotten credit for. So you can tell what you still need for the achievemnts, since every other thing connected to an achievement that has a list of things to do to get it has something like this.

Can I also get a tool to teleport and claim said S rank monster?

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Can I also get a tool to teleport and claim said S rank monster?

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Only if Rank B's drop bloody logs 9000% of the time

Great suggestions so far guys. I have a few of my own.

-Please make all hunt monsters invincible until I arrived at the mob's location.
-Make it so S ranks don't pop unless I am online and not in an instance.
-Make it so I can get full credit from doing only 1 dmg.
-If S ranks disappear from my screen it's HP automatically reset to 100%
-If a blood spattered mark log doesn't drop from A or S rank, please give me 250 allied seals as a reward instead.

This is just a few of my ideas, hope the devs will consider them!

The OP isn't asking for an EASY BUTTON. He's asking for a system that most hunters already do or use manually, either tracking it on a list or going on the internet and getting that information, except that he wants it implemented in-game. Having something written on paper or website that says Girtab window will pop open in 5 minutes doesn't mean he's going to pop in 5 minutes, it means it's possible it may pop between 5 minutes from now and some unknown time.

Some of y'all need to learn how to read first before bashing this poster's idea?

The poster's idea would ruin an already abused system even further.

As it stands, this is what makes a hunt...a hunt.
It was never intended for players to know the exact time of death server wide. But the hive-mind has made it so whenever one dies without it being common knowledge, that is the anomaly. Weird.

Hunts are supposed to have a little mystery surrounding them. This tightly scheduled zergfest is in no way what SE even remotely intended.
They're not about to exacerbate it with a big glowing red easy button.

That said: Maybe something along the lines of the Hunter-Scholar offering hints as to "his progress" in tracking the marks.
IE, the one in Moraby: "Blah blah blah Croakadile... But I can't recall a sighting in a good while." or "Blah blah...Croakadile...It was only recently it was driven off by adventurers."

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Originally Posted by Tsuwu

Logic!

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As Tsuwu said, the hunts are already easy enough and still so, so far away from the way SE seems to have intended for people to perform it. Adding this timer system would only make all of the problems people vocalize regarding the hunt even worse.

But that Hunter-Scholar idea, though... that could work. Just never ever let them say anything that explicitly suggests "the window is open right now, come in force!" Just say that it was driven off a long time ago. It would really only benefit S Rank hunters, as the others die a little too quickly to warrant going through this much effort to talk to someone to check what the scholar says. Thus, the balance wouldn't be destroyed too much :)

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Originally Posted by Talas-Wolvenfang

It would be nice to have an implementation of a quest that allows you to acquire an ability to "bring up a map" that shows each area's A, B, S ranks' cool down window pop timer.

Once the Hunt is killed, the window timer then automatically resets.

The idea for this is so that you wouldn't have to manually keep track or look up Hunt information.

It would be nice if everything Hunt related stayed in-game, keeping the info more reliable and less manual.

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Horrible idea, you should not consider yourself a gamer, go back to your mobile games for instant satisfaction...

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Originally Posted by Renik

Horrible idea, you should not consider yourself a gamer, go back to your mobile games for instant satisfaction...

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First off, what does being "A gamer" have anything to do with pitching any type of idea that may or may not be good?

Second, I don't play mobile games, I'm guessing you do since you know a lot about the satisfaction it gives?

Third, thanks for your non-constructive response to a post and the added insult to boot, please go back to the real world where you can learn more manners outside of hiding behind your PC.


Lastly, no, I don't consider myself a gamer, if by definition, a gamer is someone like you. :)

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Originally Posted by Tsuwu

The poster's idea would ruin an already abused system even further.

As it stands, this is what makes a hunt...a hunt.
It was never intended for players to know the exact time of death server wide. But the hive-mind has made it so whenever one dies without it being common knowledge, that is the anomaly. Weird.

Hunts are supposed to have a little mystery surrounding them. This tightly scheduled zergfest is in no way what SE even remotely intended.
They're not about to exacerbate it with a big glowing red easy button.

That said: Maybe something along the lines of the Hunter-Scholar offering hints as to "his progress" in tracking the marks.
IE, the one in Moraby: "Blah blah blah Croakadile... But I can't recall a sighting in a good while." or "Blah blah...Croakadile...It was only recently it was driven off by adventurers."

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This idea I like (and wow, no insults!), reminds me of the old days of FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Talas-Wolvenfang

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want a constructive post? the whole game is build on convenience, it could be played by a script np, the ilvl takes away thinking, the scripted battles are the opposite to strategical battles, the token systems takes out the effort to get gear, we don't need more convenience, because if the game keep going in this direction it will be more arcade than MMO, and we are here to play an MMO.

If you want more, name 1 MMO with an open world NM system that gives the user respawn timers, you won't find it, because such irresponsibility, would cause a massive zerge nullifying everyone's credit for the mark, and that's assuming the local server of said area could take the influx of players w/o crashing.

I may be rude, but i just can't take such destructive feedback from people who can't even think about the consequences, it just take some mins before posting.

Oh and if i'm being rude it's because i can see behind your idea, another person who wants to get credit for each mark w/o having to work for it, most ppl post ideas to get more seals with less work instead of posting ideas to fix a broken system.

Spoon feeding much?

I don't think when hunts were implemented, the devs envisioned it to be a system where people kept track of "open" spawn windows and mobs of parties teleported from zone to zone to zerg down the marks, so I'm pretty sure they aren't going to implement anything in-game that makes this current behavior even easier.

If they want hunts to be what they intended, as bonus targets that people happen to discover while doing other in-game activities rather than what it has become now, they should make all A-rank marks have a random 1-48 hour spawn window after previous ToD. This would basically eliminate the "tracking" of open spawn windows which people are using now to turn hunts into a teleport-zerg fest.

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Originally Posted by Talas-Wolvenfang

It would be nice to have an implementation of a quest that allows you to acquire an ability to "bring up a map" that shows each area's A, B, S ranks' cool down window pop timer.

Once the Hunt is killed, the window timer then automatically resets.

The idea for this is so that you wouldn't have to manually keep track or look up Hunt information.

It would be nice if everything Hunt related stayed in-game, keeping the info more reliable and less manual.

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What you are asking for is a stopwatch that resets itself. I just use a stopwatch in real life and restart it when a hunt dies. 1 hour for B,s 4 hours for A's. Not that hard.

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Originally Posted by Luna-Elysia

The OP isn't asking for an EASY BUTTON. He's asking for a system that most hunters already do or use manually,
Some of y'all need to learn how to read first before bashing this poster's idea?

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Oh we read it....and then proceeded to explain why no that's a bad idea...some in a nicer way than others. But no, said tool is NOT needed....as people weren't supposed to take hunts to this level of planning, and server organization in the first place. ALL that was supposed to happen is 'Oh, there's a mark lemme tell my friends' /l /FC 'mark at blah blah come quick!' Friends come and you kill everyone's happy....maybe even a couple other random adventurers join in the fun....If the mob is an S rank, or bigger than your circle can handle, time to get out the /sh S rank! ...but that's ALL SE envisioned the playerbase doing.

Sure they expected a couple lore hounds/numbers people to come up with spawn conditions and predictions, and I'm sure they even expected the community to use this info if/when shared. But that is different than SE doing the thinking/planning for us.
By OP's logic, the mob should appear as a big blinking mark on my map too....so I can get to it w/o looking. (because that would be the NEXT thing people'd ask for if this were granted).

We have lots of player made data collections all filled w/ information that the game doesn't really hand us, but once you know it/look it up, you're grand. Some but not all of these include:
1. Gardening crosses
2. BiS gear setup/stat caps for certain content/levels
3. Rare Gathering Node spawn times/locations
4. Sightseeing guides/logs
...etc.


So yeah, he got silly responses/told flat 'No'. But that's because it breaks the nature of hunts (which you know should require some 'hunting'), and/or makes it so even more people can easily/lazily farm content that is already overdone.

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Originally Posted by Renik

If you want more, name 1 MMO with an open world NM system that gives the user respawn timers, you won't find it, because such irresponsibility, would cause a massive zerge nullifying everyone's credit for the mark, and that's assuming the local server of said area could take the influx of players w/o crashing.

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GW2?
That's basically what the world events there are and they're on a defined, hourly schedule..

That said, I'd prefer they completely randomize the respawn windows for hunts. Anything that encourages further use of Excel in an online game is a bad thing, and giving them an in-game schedule tracker kind of defeats the notion of a 'hunt' even further.

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Originally Posted by Luna-Elysia

The OP isn't asking for an EASY BUTTON. He's asking for a system that most hunters already do or use manually, either tracking it on a list or going on the internet and getting that information, except that he wants it implemented in-game. Having something written on paper or website that says Girtab window will pop open in 5 minutes doesn't mean he's going to pop in 5 minutes, it means it's possible it may pop between 5 minutes from now and some unknown time.

Some of y'all need to learn how to read first before bashing this poster's idea?

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All of the PC players on Brynhildr are using thehunt.tk while ps3/ps4 players are shit out of luck, unless they have a lot of good Linkshells.

Working as intended apparently.

I think you guys need to get over the idea of what Hunts are 'supposed to be' and start waking up to see what they truly are. Server wide FATEs that everyone wants to be a part of.

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Originally Posted by Najara

All of the PC players on Brynhildr are using thehunt.tk while ps3/ps4 players are shit out of luck, unless they have a lot of good Linkshells.

Working as intended apparently.

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Pretty sure PS3/4 players have access to the same information.

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Originally Posted by Najara

All of the PC players on Brynhildr are using thehunt.tk while ps3/ps4 players are shit out of luck, unless they have a lot of good Linkshells.

Working as intended apparently.

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Because it's too hard to party with someone who is on the PC with access?
Because it's too hard to use a laptop/smartphone to gain access to said information?
Because it's too hard to join a dedicated hunt LS/group?

Again, PS3/PS4 users have to look up other in-game information too (or keep track of it themselves). And when it comes to B/A ranks, all they need is to write down the ToD in a tablet beside their chair, and come back 1 or 4 hours later respectively. So playing the 'poor PS3/4 player' card doesn't fly either.

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Originally Posted by Kinseykinz

Because it's too hard to party with someone who is on the PC with access?
Because it's too hard to use a laptop/smartphone to gain access to said information?
Because it's too hard to join a dedicated hunt LS/group?

Again, PS3/PS4 users have to look up other in-game information too (or keep track of it themselves). And when it comes to B/A ranks, all they need is to write down the ToD in a tablet beside their chair, and come back 1 or 4 hours later respectively. So playing the 'poor PS3/4 player' card doesn't fly either.

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I'm on PS3 and don't hunt actively, but access to the same information is there indeed. I use ffxivhunt.com and it has a mobile version and works really well on my phone. People need to stop it with the console excuses already.

I guess at least half of the people bashing the idea are using thehunting.tk frequently and fear even more people will be able to hunt more successfully if it would be an ingame feature. Hunt is no mystery anymore. There is the said website, there are spreadsheets, indivdual hunting LS or groups make them on their own. I would prefer to have a built in timer because I play on PS4 and my PC is behind me so it is not really convinient to use a website while gaming. It is doable with a PS4/PC or smartphone combo but it could be less hazzle if it would be an ingame feature. And more reliable since it would be independant from user submissions. But yeah the OP is asking for spoon feeding while the people using thehunting.tk are autonomous and have all built the knowledge on their own. U guys are funny.

It'd remove most of what makes the Hunts what they are and sounds like it's too complex to code which is a big no no when it comes to adding features in this game. One thing I'd rather have back is NMs showing on the minimap since it'd mostly eliminate Radar usage, in fact all mobs showed up on the mini map in 1.0, but I guess that feature is now too much for a superior engine and server code from a 2013 game to handle vs an engine from a 2010 game, aka PS3 limitations.

http://i.imgur.com/TPNWApN.jpg

I tried to throw in some hunt suggestions of my own that were not well received on the forums. But the dev team sounds very clued in to the problems and player feedback and are gonna deploy some unspecified changes in the patch, so we can look at things again on Tuesday and decide if there's still a problem.

I would have thought that a personal alarm clock app would have been running around by now. Like, you start it up, hunt until you see a mark die, click on the app to mark the specific target just died and the timer would start ticking on its own and beep/pop up and warn when spawn window opens and you just do it again to other marks until you have them all running. Sure, the spawn windows are large but from what I've seen, people have hunted for hours (only up 900 marks...3 week ago here).

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Originally Posted by Tsuwu

The poster's idea would ruin an already abused system even further.

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Singed!...

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Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour

GW2?
That's basically what the world events there are and they're on a defined, hourly schedule..

That said, I'd prefer they completely randomize the respawn windows for hunts. Anything that encourages further use of Excel in an online game is a bad thing, and giving them an in-game schedule tracker kind of defeats the notion of a 'hunt' even further.

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That's a player-made clock, or was.

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Originally Posted by wicked-one

Singed!...

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I wasn't trying to be mean! I promise!
I was just being honest about how I felt it would encourage abuse.

I did offer an alternative I think might be viable and provide the same type of functionality the OP wants without it being anything game breaking.

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Originally Posted by Renik

That's a player-made clock, or was.

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Was, maybe. Ever since the mega-server update though, the bosses have an official schedule. Now they've apparently even got an official PDF detailing spawn timers (before it was all displayed on the megaserver update page).

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Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour

Was, maybe. Ever since the mega-server update though, the bosses have an official schedule. Now they've apparently even got an official PDF detailing spawn timers (before it was all displayed on the megaserver update page).

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But they did it because of the megaserver system, before that world bosses still worked based on a window and pre-reqs, there's no way that could work properly after megaserver. So they ended up ruining a decent world boss system in favor of megaserver.

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Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour

Was, maybe. Ever since the mega-server update though, the bosses have an official schedule. Now they've apparently even got an official PDF detailing spawn timers (before it was all displayed on the megaserver update page).

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well that's their decision, the megaserver technology, and the alt servers they use can support it, and the fact that those bosses are considered world bosses, made to support half server w/o dying in secs, the hunts are far from being world bosses, and even the real world bosses like behe and odin fates can cause a crash, and they only offer vanity.

Just imagine if everyone could know the exact ToD, the area would be full of players waiting for the mark to spawn, even B ranks could cause crashes, this just can't work in ffxiv without breaking the content and the sever itself, anyway, Yoshi said in the last interview they already have the fix, and it will be implemented soon.

Please also implement a timer to tell me exactly when a mob or boss is going to do a move way before they do it please.

/Sarcasm
Not going to happen because takes more memory/storage.

Please have them hand me everything in game so I don't have to play at all. Am I rite OP?! That's what you're asking for, its sad enough hunts give sands and stuff away so easily is. Don't be lazy

Having the server come together to keep track of hunts, imo builds community.

In the end, you're just using an external resource to further advancement of a feature. How is this different from youtube, skill calculators, timers and online guides?

Greetings,

Due to "popular demand" we have added this convenient button for the more casual players. And coming soon, we will be adding an expansion where the button presses itself!

http://worthyproperties.net/images/click.jpg



...let's not creep any closer to this concept. Too much convenience can bastardize any game.

Unpopular opinion incoming: I don't think the Hunts are broken, at all. Are they exactly what SE intended? Probably not. But, at least on Excalibur, they have created an awesome community of their own who is working together 24 hours a day to make the system usable and beneficial to anyone and everyone. The TS server is open to the public, trolling and generally being an ass-hat are frowned upon and things typically go very smoothly. We have a core group of people who have dedicated themselves to the process and it is working extremely well. There are 8 FULL Linkshells within the group, as well as a temporary LS for those currently using the TS to actively hunt. We also still have plenty of people doing coil, my roulette wait times have not noticeably increased since The Hunt was implemented, there are learning parties for practically all content... I don't see that anything has been 'lost' or 'abandoned' from this system.

tl;dr: Don't whine your way into ruining something that is flawed only in your own degree of participation.