Best cost efficient food for SMNs?

recommend me some cost efficient food I can mass up for T5+ on my summoner

Buttons in a Blanket. No reason to use anything worse, Black Truffle Risotto is a slightly better option depending on if you have the stats to make it better than Buttons.

Other jobs can (but shouldn't) use accuracy food to hit caps that they aren't hitting with gear (which shouldn't be happening) but SMN can't do this because Garuda is the one that needs the extra accuracy and food doesn't benefit pets.

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Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez

Buttons in a Blanket. No reason to use anything worse, Black Truffle Risotto is a slightly better option depending on if you have the stats to make it better than Buttons.

Other jobs can (but shouldn't) use accuracy food to hit caps that they aren't hitting with gear (which shouldn't be happening) but SMN can't do this because Garuda is the one that needs the extra accuracy and food doesn't benefit pets.

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Why shouldn't I be using Acc food to make hit caps? As BLM I can net 27 Crit from an Apkallu Omelette, but only 15 Det/10 Crit from Buttons(cannot make cap for risotto's without sacrificing LARGE amounts of Crit/SS). As well, if using Buttons, I technically don't gain anything, because the pieces that are required to swap out cause me to lose Crit, Det, or SS would reduce my stats enough that Buttons simply put me at where I was before eating food in my other set of gear that needs ACC food to make cap.

For Black Mage, you're better off with SS food which don't give any accuracy. For melee DPS, their stat weight for det is massive compared to the others so none accuracy food is once again king for them. You could make an exception for Bards as I don't know enough to really comment on it.

I use buttons on SMN because I geared for Det. You do need a bit more accuracy for SMN compared to BLM, so if you need acc food eat it. In that case Stuffed Cabbage is fairly cheap. Deviled Eggs are an equal option if you prefer Crit. These are all Lv 45+ foods, they have good benefits (if HQ) considering the gathering/crafting requirement is low compared to the 2 star foods.

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Originally Posted by IAmPotent

Why shouldn't I be using Acc food to make hit caps? As BLM I can net 27 Crit from an Apkallu Omelette, but only 15 Det/10 Crit from Buttons(cannot make cap for risotto's without sacrificing LARGE amounts of Crit/SS). As well, if using Buttons, I technically don't gain anything, because the pieces that are required to swap out cause me to lose Crit, Det, or SS would reduce my stats enough that Buttons simply put me at where I was before eating food in my other set of gear that needs ACC food to make cap.

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It's generally considered better to hit accuracy cap with gear and make up DPS stats with food. It really depends on the individual situation.

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Originally Posted by Uninstall

For Black Mage, you're better off with SS food which don't give any accuracy. For melee DPS, their stat weight for det is massive compared to the others so none accuracy food is once again king for them. You could make an exception for Bards as I don't know enough to really comment on it.

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SS food with no Acc? You're joking right? Please explain how Taking 20 SS/4 Det from Sachertorte(You will never get max benefit if trying to make ACC caps without food) or 20 SS/1 Piety outweights the benefits of 27 Crit, as well as the stats you gain from not having to put on a piece of gear w/ ACC on it over a piece with Crit or SS.

There is no math that will prove SS food to be better because there is no way to get enough SS(27) to outweight the benefits of an Apkallu Omelette(27) while still maintaining the same stats pre-food.(You would have to change to a SS/Det build, which for BLM is just absolutely retarded)

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

I use buttons on SMN because I geared for Det. You do need a bit more accuracy for SMN compared to BLM, so if you need acc food eat it. In that case Stuffed Cabbage is fairly cheap. Deviled Eggs are an equal option if you prefer Crit. These are all Lv 45+ foods, they have good benefits (if HQ) considering the gathering/crafting requirement is low compared to the 2 star foods.

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SMN's should focus on meeting ACC caps with gear and then eating Buttons or Risotto.

Food buffs do not affect Garuda, and she has a slightly higher acc cap than Casters.

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Originally Posted by IAmPotent

SMN's should focus on meeting ACC caps with gear and then eating Buttons or Risotto.

Food buffs do not affect Garuda, and she has a slightly higher acc cap than Casters.

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Yes, I don't use SMN for second coil, his acc is fine for everything else, hence buttons. If I did run SMN in second coil, I'd be eating acc food for sure til I got more caster pieces.

OP - is that your raiding gear set for SMN on the lodestone? You need a lot more accuracy for first coil, around 440-450 IIRC. Farm turn 1 and get that caster ring for sure, actually just farm t1, t2 and t4, get what you can, fill in the rest with myth/soldiery.

HQ Buttons in a Blanket.

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

I use buttons on SMN because I geared for Det. You do need a bit more accuracy for SMN compared to BLM, so if you need acc food eat it.

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The reason SMN needs more acc is because of their pet. The master's acc cap is same as BLM, the pet's is about 20 points higher. Pet does not get food effects. Went over this in first reply. SMN cannot use accuracy food.

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Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez

The reason SMN needs more acc is because of their pet. The master's acc cap is same as BLM, the pet's is about 20 points higher. Pet does not get food effects. Went over this in first reply. SMN cannot use accuracy food.

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OK. Guess I've been misunderstanding that whole time then. Must've been some sneaky way to nerf SMN dps, require them to have more accuracy without food. What a crock of shite.

I'd much rather take the 27 SS and 5 DET vs 27 CRIT and 9 ACC.

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Originally Posted by Uninstall

I'd much rather take the 27 SS and 5 DET vs 27 CRIT and 9 ACC.

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For Summoner the effect of SS is almost 0. Crit is the highest weighted secondary stat.

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

For Summoner the effect of SS is almost 0. Crit is the highest weighted secondary stat.

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we're talking about black mage

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Originally Posted by Uninstall

we're talking about black mage

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Thread: Best cost efficient food for SMNs?

My mistake.

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

Thread: Best cost efficient food for SMNs?

My mistake.

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