This game doesn't need more gear sets with different stats for horizontal progression it already has min/max options with crafted gear, coils and tokens. What this game really needs is ability progression since its an important rpg element. The developers should add end game job story quests that allow players to complete different objectives and augment existing abilities it's called an mmorpg for a reason and ability progression is the second most important rpg element in mmorpg's besides gear.
Ability progression
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08-01-2014, 04:36 AMAkizaAbility progression
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08-01-2014, 04:41 AMMilesSaintboroguh
Wait till level cap is raised.
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08-01-2014, 11:18 AMEstevoWait for ONE or TWO abilities, I don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh
New mechanics are needed for ability progression to bring back the RPG in this MMORPG -
08-01-2014, 11:28 AMObysuca
Perhaps something like XI's merits might work? I mean, pvp skills have points you can put into them so I don't see why they couldn't work around that for other skills. Obviously when you're at cap (this one or the next). It'd be something nice for all that wasted exp bonus most people have for maxing everything, of course, not using said exp already, but switching to a "merit" where you get those at 50 instead, but requiring quite an immense amount, mostly to counter people getting 10-20 off a single dungeon or holy spamming a group of mobs. Make them work for it, no more handing stuff to people.
Sadly, I don't see this happening :/ Unless it's something like "increase potency" "lower's recast", because SE is apparently avoiding "complex stats" like the plague here lol What's so complex about "PDT-%" or something? -
08-01-2014, 01:21 PMMilesSaintboroguhIt just sounds like you want something new to use right away. Abilities aren't going to be expanded upon until we get a level cap boost where the new content is made with the new abilities in mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Estevo
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08-01-2014, 03:05 PMLitheraYou aren't going to see something like this until after the level cap increase. FFXI had merits but only after the level cap was raised and set statically at 75. They'll bump the cap with the expansion and if that will be the cap for a while THEN you may see something like this happen. Level 50 is already going to be an annoying plateau for people on the way to the new level cap without some kind of merit system as well. Plus this can also breed a "you don't have x ability or have y ability enhanced? *kick*" situation that was not uncommon in FFXI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Estevo
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08-01-2014, 03:28 PMGardes
Veiled smn rework demand thread?
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08-01-2014, 03:48 PMKaze3434always is. expect itQuote:
Originally Posted by Gardes
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08-01-2014, 03:51 PMMorningstar1337
I summon Black Rose Dragon, OP's veiled wish for a summoner revamp is destroyed
Also they're getting the last 3 egis in 3.0 -
08-01-2014, 03:55 PMDwillWhat else would it be with Akiza as the OP ? I wouldn't be surprised to come back later to this thread to read his ideas of "balance" that seems to change everytime he posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gardes
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08-01-2014, 04:20 PMEstevoNot at all, I want more mechanics to make combat more interesting, and to give your character more individuality in it's abilities. Essentially, I want more depth in the game, not complexities.Quote:
Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh
Just take Dota 2 for example, each Hero in that game only has 4-6 abilities, but with the possibilities of those abilities plus the variety of items and mechanics, anything is possible and it's interesting to see how things play out. Dota 2 makes up for it's lack of action oriented combat with depth and the excitement of seeing what you can do with what you have, being creative.
So what will ARR do to make up for it's tab targeted-combat is the question everyone should be asking themselves, because combat is simple and easy right now, it needs to have more to it, not complexities, but the ability to be creative and resourceful. I really think concepts like this need to be put up there in the priority list.
The foundation is there, they can do whatever they want, and I think it's time they stopped playing it safe, because playing it safe leads to uninspired, average results.
It seems like the Rogue and Ninja are going to be like this, which if it's the case, I hope they don't leave the rest of the Jobs/Classes in the dust mechanic-wise. -
08-01-2014, 10:54 PMMilesSaintboroguh
We won't see combat in this game go beyond to what it is now since Yoshi wants to keep the game simple for the sake of new players trickling in. But things may change.
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08-01-2014, 11:09 PMAkizaI just got tired of people saying this game needs more horizontal gear progression for min/max stats which becomes a boring grind when more gear is added. Since players can already enhance pvp specific abilities they can make it so players can enhance already existing pve players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwill
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08-01-2014, 11:21 PMSadana
Hmm, now I want to go back and play a couple older FF and other RPG video games to see just how much variety in abilities there was. I don't remember there being all that much really. Even in X and XII with their grids, you needed to have certain abilities unlocked (and in X, you were kept in a certain skill path for a while anyways) or you wouldn't make it. In VII, materia changed things up, but you still needed certain abilities to pass certain boss fights.
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08-01-2014, 11:51 PMExstalDon't deviate from your true calling; balance of SMN class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Akiza