Preformer => Dancer & Idol

Performer => Dancer / Idol
Role: Healer
Weapon: Trident Daggers x2, daggers that posses multiple blades that fan out.
Damage Type: Slash
Armor: Robes, Light-Armor
Limit Break: Healer
Main Stat(s): Mind for healing, Dexterity for damage, TP for skills.

Performer (PRF)
Front-Line Healer with support and debuffing
Entertainers who like performing in the center stage. They use a variety of dances to support their allies and beguile their enemies.

Flourish Stack
While captivating their audience, Performers gain the opportunity to preform special steps during their dance routines called Flourishes. In order to use these Flourishes, they must gain the Flourish Stacks from preforming Waltzes, Weaponskills, or landing critical attacks. If a Limit Break is used by the Performer, they gain 1 Flourish stack per Limit Break gauge used. Can have a maximum of 5 Flourish Stacks. Landing a critical hit will give the user 1 Flourish stack automatically.

Skills

Routines
Special dance routines that dazzle foes, continuously. While a routine is up, the user's Physical Attack will decrease by 20%. While a Routine is being used, the user's MP will continuously drain over time. Only one Routine can be up at a time, with any newly cast Routine replacing the old.
• Witch Hunt: Continuously damages a targeted foe and converts that damage into TP for the user (Damage x 0.01= TP%). Lowers the user's Healing Potency by 20%. Potency of 10. Instant cast time. 2.5 recast.
• Heathen Frolic: Lowers the Magical Attack of all foes within a 5 yalm radius by 10%. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
• Polka: Lowers the Physical Attack of all foes within a 5 yalm radius by 10%. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.

Waltzes
Special dances that give allies special treatment. Can be used during any Routine, multiple times. Uses TP.
• Curing Waltz: Heals a target's HP. Has a 25% chance of gaining a Flourish stack. Healing Potency of 450. Instant cast time. 5 second recast.
• Rejuvenating Waltz: Heals a target's HP. Has a 25% chance of gaining a Flourish stack. Healing Potency of 650. Instant cast time. 5 second recast.
• Captivating Waltz: Heals all party members within a 10 yalm radius of the user. Has a 5% chance per ally healed of gaining a Flourish stack. Healing Potency of 200. Instant cast time. 6 second recast.
• Carnival Waltz: Places a "Carnival" buff on all party members within a 10 yalm radius of the user for 20 seconds. Carnival gradually heals the targets HP over time. Has a 5% chance per ally buffed of gaining a Flourish stack. Healing Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 5 second recast.
• Healing Waltz: Removes a single detrimental effect from a targeted ally. Has a 10% chance of gaining a Flourish stack. Instant cast time. 4 second recast.
• Divine Waltz: Revives a fallen target in a weakened state (Note: can be used in-combat by default, without the need for a trait.). Has a 50% chance of gaining a Flourish stack. 2.5 second cast time. 8 second recast.

Flourishes
Additional steps done during a dance. These can be used during any Routine, multiple times. Use Flourish stacks.
• Drain Samba: Uses 2 Flourish stacks. Damages a selected foe and places a "Drain Samba" debuff on the target for 15 seconds. Whenever a party member physically-attacks or uses a skill on a foe with the Drain Samba debuff, they will recover 5% of their HP. Potency of 80. 2 second cast time. 2.5 second recast.
• Chocobo Jig: Uses 1 Flourish stack. Places a "Chocobo Jig" buff on all party members within a 10 yalm radius of the user for 30 seconds. Chocobo Jig increase the target's skill speed by 25%. 2 second cast time. 2.5 second recast.
• Jitterbug: Uses 2 Flourish stacks. Places a "Jitterbug" buff on all party members within a 15 yalm radius of the user for 30 seconds. Jitterbug increases the target's spell speed by 25%. 2 second cast time. 2.5 second recast.
• Key to the Heart: Uses 2 Flourish stacks. Increases the Magical Defense all party members within a 15 yalm radius of the user by 20% for 5 minutes. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.

Weaponskills
• Mincing Minuet: Damages a single foe. Has a 50% chance of gaining a Flourish stack. Potency of 130. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
• Sword Dance: Damages a single foe. Has a 50% chance of gaining a Flourish stack. Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
Combo: Mincing Minuet => Sword Dance: Potency to 200. Has a 75% chance of gaining a Flourish stack.
• Pyrrhic Kleos: Damages a single foe. Has a 50% chance of gaining a Flourish stack. Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
Combo: Blade Dance => Pyrrhic Kleos: Potency of 250. Has a 90% chance of gaining a Flourish stack.
• Mordant Rime: Damages a selected target and places a DoT on them for 22 seconds. Has a 15% chance of gaining a Flourish stack. Potency of 60. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.

Other Skills
• Presto: Places a "Presto" buff on the user. Presto doubles the amount of Flourish stacks the user gains from their next skill. If they didn't gain a Flourish stack, they will gain 1 stack. This excludes Routines and/or any skill that uses Flourish stacks. Instant cast time. 90 second recast.
• My Hero: Lowers the user's enmity by 20% and increases a selected party member's enmity by 10%. Instant cast time. 100 second recast.

Cross-Class
• My Hero
• Mincing Minuet
• Healing Waltz
• Curing Waltz

Skill Levels

1. Mincing Minuet
2. Curing Waltz
4. Chocobo Jig
6. Witch Hunt
8. Healing Waltz
10. Mordant Rime
12. Sword Dance
*Quest* 15. Drain Samba
18. Polka
22. Divine Waltz
26. Pyrrhic Kleos
*Quest* 30. Rejuvenating Waltz
34. Captivating Waltz
38. Heathen Frolic
42. Jitterbug
46. My Hero
50. Carnival Waltz
54. Key to the Heart
58. Presto

Traits

8. Enchanted Mind I: Increases mind by 2.
14. Enchanted Mind II: Increases mind by 4.
16. Cross-Step: Whenever two Waltz skills are used in succession, increase the second Waltz's chance of gaining a Flourish by 10%.
20. Maim and Mend I: Increases base action damage and healing done by 10%.
24. Enchanted Mind III: Increases mind by 6.
28. Fouetté: Increases the user's Evasion by 10% when they are at or less then 5 yalms away from their targeted foe.
32. Climatic Flourish: Increase the amount of Flourish stacks the user can have to 7.
36. Closed Position: Increases the user's Accuracy by 10% when they are positioned in front of their targeted foe.
40. Maim and Mend II: Increases base action damage and healing done by 30%.
44. Lead and Follow: Whenever two Waltz skills are used in succession on the same, single target, increase the second Waltz's healing potency by 15%. Waltz skills that target multiple party members do not count towards this.
48. Grandiose Flourish:Increases the amount of Flourish stacks the user can have to 10.
52. Enchanted Mind IV: Increases mind by 8.
56. Folk Dancer: Whenever a Waltz skill that targets more then one player is used, increase the odds of landing a Critical with the next Waltz skill by 2.5% per effected party member. Healing Waltz is not effected by the second effect.
60. Heavenly Flourish: When the user has the maximum amount of Flourish stacks, restore 50 TP whenever they should gain a Flourish stack.

Dancer (DNC)
Front-Line Healer with support
Unlock: PRF 30/ CNJ 15
Cross-Class: CNJ and THM
Relic: Terpsichore
Performers of refined skill and grace, who use their refreshing movement to support their allies.

Skills

• 30. Moonlit Waltz: Places a barrier on all party members within a 10 yalm radius that absorbs 10% of the target's maximum HP. Instant cast time. 30 second recast.
• 35. Grand Pas: A Routine. Increase the Healing Potency of all party members within a 5 yalm radius of the user by 5%. Reduces the user's Physical Attack by an additional 10%. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
• 40. Trance: Grants the user the maximum amount of Flourish stacks. Instant cast time. 100 second recast.
• 45. Last Waltz: Uses all the user's Flourish stacks. Heals all party members within a 5 yalm radius of the user. The user cannot use Waltz skills for 5 seconds after using this skill. Healing Potency of 60 per Flourish stack used. 2.5 second recast. 60 second recast.
• 50. Magical Masque: Uses 6 Flourish stacks. Places a "Magical Masque" buff on a selected party member (other then the user). Magical Masque will make its target's next used spell cast instantly. Other Preformers/Dancers/Idols cannot be selected. 2.5 second cast time. 60 second recast.
• 55. Mystic Waltz: Uses all the user's Flourish stacks. Restores the MP of all party members (other then the user) within a 10 yalm radius of the user by 2% per each Flourish stack used. The user cannot gain Flourish stacks for 20 seconds after using this skill. Instant cast time. 80 second recast.
• 60. Resplendence: Damages a selected target, then places a Regen-like effect on all party members within 5 yalms of the target, healing HP equal to 50% of the damage per tick. Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 120 second recast.

Idol (IDL)
Front-Line Healer with debuffing
Unlock: PRF 30/ PUG 15
Cross-Class: PUG and CNJ
Relic: Calca and Brina (*Note, while both weapons don't have the same name, they still count as one. They both get equipped, stored, repaired, and/or updated at the same time.)
Performers who enrapture foes with their enticing movements.

Skills

• 30. Hypnotic Hotstep: Uses 1 Flourish stack. Places all foes with in a 5 yalm radius to Sleep for 30 seconds. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
• 35. Forbidden Dance: Uses 2 Flourish stacks. Damages a targeted foe and places "Dirty Dancing" debuff on them for 15 seconds. When a party member physically attacks or uses a skill on a foe with the Dirty Dancing debuff on them, their chances of landing a Critical Hit increase by 15% for 5 seconds. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
• 40. Boxstep: Damages a single foe. Has a 75% chance of gaining a Flourish stack. Potency of 100. Instant cast. 20 second recast.
Combo: Boxstep => Mincing Minuet: Increase Damage done onto the target by 10% for 10 seconds.
• 45. Grand Jeté: Leaps towards a selected foe and damages them. Must be more then 7 yalms away from target to execute. Grants 1 Flourish stack. Potency of 130. Instant cast time. 10 recast time.
• 50. Sensual Dance: A Routine. Lowers the Damage Resistance of all foes within a 5 yalm radius of the user by 5%. Lowers the user's Physical Attack by an additional 10% and their Healing Potency by 10%. Instant cast time. 2.5 second recast.
• 55. Reverse Jive: Uses all the user's Flourish stacks. Restores 40 of the user's TP per Flourish stack used. Instant cast time. 120 second recast.
• 60. Rapturous Finish: Uses 6 Flourish stacks. Heals all allies with in 10 yalms of a selected enemy, then damages the target equal to all the heals averaged out. Healing Potency of 300. Instant cast time. 180 second recast.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

Weapon: Dual-Wield Tambourines Handheld percussion instruments, outfitted with aether-attuned bells.

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jinglejinglejinglejingle....I make them bells rattle son!

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What's wrong with Tambourines? ;A;
I figured they would function like old-school-FF Geomancer bells.
I was also a little inspired by Soul Calibur III. :B

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

What's wrong with Tambourines? ;A;
I figured they would function like old-school-FF Geomancer bells.
I was also a little inspired by Soul Calibur III. :B

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Did you think about male characters? SE is already doing a great job making the game as homoerotic and cutesy as possible. There has to be more to creativity than designing around half naked cat-women. Not all of us get off on watching pixel-boobs.

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Originally Posted by Deelo

Did you think about male characters? SE is already doing a great job making the game as homoerotic and cutesy as possible. There has to be more to creativity than designing around half naked cat-women. Not all of us get off on watching pixel-boobs.

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Of course I thought about how male character would look while playing as this job and classes. And I see nothing wrong with it. This job wasn't intended to be fan service. I had figured the dances would look similarly to XI's more fanciful ones. I also thought that the tambourines would be good substitutes for the dual knifes Dancers used in XI (and are more know to use through out the FF franchise) while still staying in with the theme of still being actual dancers and healers (and not stealing them from Rogue/Ninja).
What weapon would you suggest?

Not sure...personally I really liked the dagger thing in XI with Dancer, but I understand not wanting to step on Rouge/Ninja's toes. Hmmm maybe something barehanded like:

http://foxybeads.com/images/jbl/jbl011701d.jpg
http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/933/4...466933_650.jpg
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...2743319efd.jpg
http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1...ont-Bangle.jpg

Or maybe some well designed fans.

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Not sure...personally I really liked the dagger thing in XI with Dancer, but I understand not wanting to step on Rouge/Ninja's toes. Hmmm maybe something barehanded like:
Or maybe some well designed fans.

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I had actually thought about some sort of bangle you could put on your character wrists or fans but I thought bangles would encroach on Pugilist and Monk's fisticuffs and would have to be visible with hand-armor on, while I was worried that people would say fans were too effeminate. Fans might not actually be a bad substitute though.

Here is what I based my tambourine fighting style idea on: http://youtu.be/FCr-JbOR3mA?t=30s

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Originally Posted by Deelo

Or maybe some well designed fans.

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Really curious about how you think a fan dance can be designed without approaching the "homoeroticism" you think SE has put in the game.

While I think the tambourines are fine, those Chinese rattle-drums came to mind when thinking of a more gender-neutral weapon.

Make the weapon(s) Maracas, give MNK a comrade in bludgeoning damage
plus, based on the AF/Relic gear in FFXI, they looked like they should have maracas (also, Jim Carrey in "The Mask")

If a dancer class will ever happen in this game I think that the base class will be puligist with conjurer lvl 15. The Dancer will be inspired by capurera. That brazilian dance fighting.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

Weapon: Dual-Wield Tambourines Handheld percussion instruments, outfitted with aether-attuned bells. Uses Slash-Damage.

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Why not fans?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan

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Why not fans?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan

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Because at the time, I was worried people would think they were too effeminate. Plus, I really wanted a class that used an instrument as a weapon, to fill the Bard-shaped hole.

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Originally Posted by liljramos88

If a dancer class will ever happen in this game I think that the base class will be puligist with conjurer lvl 15. The Dancer will be inspired by capurera. That brazilian dance fighting.

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How would it be different from Monk?

Agreed with the idea of fans, I have seen this in other games as well as MORTAL KOMBAT! Of course the Dancers could only be female... Male dancers will always only look like strippers :P

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Originally Posted by Aztoth

Agreed with the idea of fans, I have seen this in other games as well as MORTAL KOMBAT! Of course the Dancers could only be female... Male dancers will always only look like strippers :P

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Why gender-lock a job? XI had dancers and they looked just fine. >3>

LOL, I was an Elvaan DNC at that. Big giraffe lookin mo fo hoppin around. Kids loved it. I miss em....

Chakrams maybe a good idea instead of tambourine imo

I for one would be very upset if they made a DNC class a female only class. I don't see the point in limiting ones ability to be whatever you want in the game.

Update
- Changed Weapons into Fans. :B
- Added Skills and Traits for 50 to 60
- Re-arranged what level Preforms gain certain skills.

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Originally Posted by OceanWilds

I for one would be very upset if they made a DNC class a female only class. I don't see the point in limiting ones ability to be whatever you want in the game.

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I agree.

I don't have issues with Male Dancers. I can just see them going down a scantly clad route that I, personally, wouldnt mind.

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I don't have issues with Male Dancers. I can just see them going down a scantly clad route that I, personally, wouldnt mind.

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Think more V, XI, or 4 Heroes of Light Dancer.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...Dancer_012.png
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...FFXI_Art_1.jpg
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...artyDancer.png

Additionally, think of idol as more cuter, like Performers from Bravely Default or Party Hosts from 4 Heroes of Light

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2..._Performer.jpg
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...Host_party.png

That's a very intriguing class concept there. Also, I'm glad to see people pointing out that they don't need to wear anything revealing, as that isn't actually something intrinsic with dancing to inspire others.

However, I'd like to know how you managed to fit all of that original post into a single post, given the character limit. I can't currently post my own class suggestion due to this. ._.

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However, I'd like to know how you managed to fit all of that original post into a single post, given the character limit. I can't currently post my own class suggestion due to this. ._.

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You can add more then the character limit when you edit posts. I just made the original post with 1000 character-or-less, then hit edit and posted the rest right after. >w>

I would wear nothing but the dancers pants, shirtless..dual tambourines while I do the chocobo jig or the small ones that go on your fingers and I can do the Bat-tootsie..fans are fine. Let the Hellsguard bring the fan dance of Uhura to this realm reborn.

I thought dancers were fun and powerful in XI and then just adding in all that glamour...ooh..myy..

But I do like the idea a lot, and would do the pants..pink or one of those purple colors that boarders on the pink side..I like purple just tends to lead into pink a lot.

Castenettes (Sp.) are the little finger cymbol thingies I think you speak of.

If you'd check out the Dynasty Warriors iron fan moveset in DW7-8, even though it's used by female characters (and some male characters), the moveset seems quite gender neutral. Strong and elegant, so males using a fan as a dancer is definitely doable without them looking effeminate.

Interettttt

This would need a lot of work.

As it stands, in your post, DNC would be the best healer. If you can't see why you may need to get your head examined.

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

As it stands, in your post, DNC would be the best healer. If you can't see why you may need to get your head examined.

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Way to be constructive! /sarcasm
I believe, if you are referring to just Dancer and not the entire class and jobs, you mean Last Waltz's potency, Mystic Waltz's MP recovery amount, and maybe Resplendence's curing potency and Moonlit Waltz being a Stone II that can be used in battle. I can see that and I'll correct them.

Update

Performer
- Routines now lowers the user's Physical Attack by 20%, instead of 10%.
- Witch Hunt lowers the user's Healing Potency by 10%.
- Captivating Waltz now only effects party members within 10 yalms of the user, instead of 15 yalms.
- Carnival Waltz now only effects party members within 10 yalms of the user, instead of 15 yalms, and now has a Healing potency of 100.
- Chocobo Jig only effects party members within 10 yalms, instead of 15 yalms.
- Heavenly Flourish now restores only 50 TP.

Dancer
- Moonlight Waltz's barriers no only absorb damage equal to 10% of their target's Maximum HP.
- Last Waltz now only effects party members within 5 yalms of the user, versus 10 yalms, and its Healing Potency now only 60 per Flourish stack used, versus 70.
- Mystic Waltz now only restores 2% of a target's MP per Flourish stack used, versus 10%.
- Resplendence's potency is now 100, versus 220.

Idol
-Forbidden Dance's Dirty Dancing effect only lasts for 15 seconds, versus 20.
- Grand Jeté's recast is now 10 seconds, versus 2.5.
- Sensual Dance now a target's Damage Resistance by 5%, versus 10%, and lowers the user's Physical Attack by an additional 10%, versus 20%, and Healing Potency by 10%.
- Reverse Jive now only restores 50 TP per Flourish stack used, versus 100 TP.

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I was more referring to what a Dancer gets on top of what it already has from being a Performer.

I just get annoyed when people post ideas about that they would like to see implemented, yet they obviously never thought about balance at all. Also I main Healing, so when I see something like this (if this was implemented there would be little reason to use SCH, and no reason to use WHM), a barely any "Cooldowns", no cast-time, TP-based Healer that can do basically everything the other two healers can do, (plus more. And switching between DNC and IDL would have no downside, since they are both Healers with OP abilities) can DPS well, heals groups and solo well (cure is core cross skill since it uses MP) and restore whatever you need, it just got to me.

Sorry, I should have been nicer but I get annoyed with stuff like this.

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And I'm sorry for being snarky, I had been in a thread that got me heated up. I do appreciate that someone wanted to refer to the actual balance of my idea versus "What weapon will not immaculate me the most?". I actual like receiving meaningful critiques.
I tried to keep the class and jobs as balanced as I could, referring to both healers and one-or-two DPS when coming up for skill Potency and cooldowns. I can see how the lower cooldown times with no cast time can be broken. My process at the time (which was four months ago) was that the player would be doing DPS and need to be able to heal on the drop of a hat. I will fix these and try to re-balance the skills some more.

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Preformer
- Routines now continuously drain the user's MP when used.
- Re-tuned all the probabilities of gaining a Flourish stack from skills.
- Curing Waltz now has recast of 5 seconds, instead of 2.5, and Healing Potency of 450, versus 400.
- Rejuvenating Waltz now has a recast of 5 seconds, instead of 3, and a Healing Potency of 650, versus 500.
- Captivating Waltz now has a recast of 6 seconds, instead of 5, and a Healing Potency of 200, instead of 300.
- Carnival Waltz now has a recast of 5 seconds, instead of 3.
- Healing Waltz now has a recast of 4 seconds, instead of 2.5.
- Presto now has a recast of 90 seconds, instead of 60.
- My Hero now has a recast of 100 seconds, instead of 15.


Dancer
- Grand Pas now only effects Party Members within 5 yalms of the user, versus 10 yalms.
- Magical Masque can no longer effect other Preformers, Dancers, and/or Idols.
- Mystic Waltz no longer effects the user.
- Resplendence now only effects Party Members within 5 yalms of the target, instead of 10 yalms.

Idol
- Box Step has a Potency of 100, instead of 140, and no longer has a chance to grant a Flourish Stack.
- Reverse Jive only restores 40 TP per Flourish stack used, instead of 50.

just had a thought, similar to Ninja's Mudras, dancer could have some "dance moves" that work similarly, and based no the order, have different effects

I'm just going to leave this here....

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/e/a/eab...2d16428d0a.png

I agree that dancer should be included as a Healer/support role in this game. I have not read over the OP's entire post or updates but I intend to as I would like them to be included in FF14. TBH I really wanted them to have a primary and off-hand weapons for this class. Men and women both could use fans/tambourines as primary could and the off-hand weapon could be female a sash of some kind and for men their off-hand weapon could be a staff (I'm think a metallic version of the Bo).

I thought that the dances in theory could be tweaked as per gender, where as most can be universal, depending what SE chooses to get the dances from. But They could get an ability similar to cleric stance, where their primary weapon would become secondary (off-hand weapon) with a damage increase.

I had alot of ideas for the way this Job could work, but had not gotten around to looking at mechanics etc and putting it down on paper.

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I had alot of ideas for the way this Job could work, but had not gotten around to looking at mechanics etc and putting it down on paper.

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Do it. >3>

Also, I had thought of staffs as a weapon choice once but then I thought they didn't fit FF's mythos other then XII:RW and TA2's Penelo, who uses magic.

Also, update:
-Changed weapons to Trident Daggers. >3>