I recently completed the rank 30 Weaver quest "Dancing the Night Away" and did not receive any skill points on completion. I thought that all quests would now give sp, and expected a nice amount for completing storyline quest for my class.
Was this an oversight or is this working as intended? If it is intentional, then why? I had to complete 4 successful parlays and travel back and forth several times between cities in order to complete this quest. Surely that should merit sp if other much less time consuming quests do receive sp.
Some players on DoW classes have reported sp gains for completing class quests. Are only DoW/M classes receiving sp for such quests?
*Wish I could correct typos in the title line >< lack thereof
Class Quests and SP Gain (or in my case, the lackthereof)
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07-27-2011, 10:06 AMDeminiaClass Quests and SP Gain (or in my case, the lackthereof)
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08-02-2011, 03:58 PMquantumsaint
I just did the rank 36 THM quest and received no SP, but I did receive 36,000 gil and 3,600 guild marks. These are class quests, not sidequests. I don't think any of the class quests regardless if they are DoW/DoM/DoH/DoL grant SP. The story quests and guild company quests seem to, though.
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08-03-2011, 11:29 PMDrewW777
I'm a crafter as well and it would be nice to receive SP for the class level quests as well. The guild marks also help, but other guildleves grant both marks and SP. As such, it only makes sense that class specific quests should grant SP in addition to marks
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08-03-2011, 11:40 PMFerth
As far as I know the class quests don't give SP. I've done the GLA 30 quest recently and just did the PGL 20 quest and didn't receive sp for either.
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08-05-2011, 04:22 AMAlixandir
I also wondered about this. I was surprised when completing the MRD 36 class quest and not recieving any sp. Especiall since the patch notes say:
"[dev1085] Main scenario and class quests will now reward skill points upon completion.
NPCs offering quests which grant skill points as a reward can be identified by the blue exclamation marks over their heads."
Class quests giving sp would indeed make sense, seeing as they seem to want to reward a lot of different activities with sp. -
08-05-2011, 12:23 PMFated
Add this to the gigantic pile of 1.18 bugs and errors.
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08-06-2011, 03:01 AMBayohne
Sorry for the confusion regarding this, but this is indeed working as intended. Unfortunately, it looks like a slight translation error crept into the patch 1.18 notes about this, which we'll work to get corrected.
Skill points are granted for completing main scenario quests and sidequests. The reason that class quests don't offer SP is due to the fact that it was intended for classes that were offered the quest to earn the SP, but since the system currently is not set up that way, we decided not to have them grant SP. We're working to improve the system going forward.
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08-06-2011, 03:35 AMFatedClass quests never gave SP in the first place...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bayohne
Local guildleves give the SP reward to the proper class even if turned in by a different class. I fail to understand how that same mechanic isn't implemented for the class quests to prevent people from obtaining the SP on a different class.
I'm probably grasping at straws at this point, though. -
08-06-2011, 03:41 AMBayohne
Thanks for the catch Fated, I appreciate it. I often re-write my posts so many times before posting that I forget to re-check the final result before posting. Pobody's nerfect, I guess!
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08-06-2011, 03:48 AMorigamikitsuneDon't sweat it Bay, we won't tell Rukkirii you admitted that! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bayohne
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08-06-2011, 03:50 AMEstelliosQuote:
Originally Posted by Bayohne
Been to Australia, lately? ;) -
08-06-2011, 03:54 AMRukkiriiOh I know, and I will remember this forever. /excellentQuote:
Originally Posted by origamikitsune
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08-06-2011, 04:44 AMAarin
uh oh! someone's gonna get brain ninja'd soon
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08-06-2011, 04:57 AMRyndael
It's understandable. My posts normally start out as page-long answers to trolls, then get shortened to one line.
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08-06-2011, 08:30 AMAlpha_Zeon
I'd like to know, that if Main Scenario quests now offer SP, shouldn't I be able to receive that SP since I completed them prior to them giving SP?
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08-06-2011, 12:43 PMEfryeI'm sure this has already been discussed elsewhere, but I still want to add a big YES PLEASE! beneath that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha_Zeon
I think I understand why they didn't add that feature and I know they can't compensate players of every change after every patch. Still I can't help but be a little frustrated about missing out on all those SP. And not only for the main scenario quests, but for all the side quests as well. -
08-06-2011, 08:20 PMMug
Yeah I was one of the few people who did all the main quests and the sidequests before 1.18 (which was 70-80 quests!). I can't deny that I feel a little cheated, but the change is for the better and I understand that it would be hard for them to find a way to compensate for it.
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08-06-2011, 08:55 PMAlpha_ZeonI mean really doesn't the last Main Scenario quest yield like 46k sp? That's SP anyone would miss. I could understand all the little miniquests around Eorzea, but the Main Storyline quests, no. And could you point out where it's been discussed tried searching abit to no avail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Efrye
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08-07-2011, 01:46 AMFated
I think the problem is as said before, they can't compensate players for everything that changes from patch to patch. It's just something we have to deal with as "unofficial" beta testers.
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08-07-2011, 01:50 AMEfryeI have no idea if or where it has been discussed - I just assumed it has been. Because, at least for me, it's a pretty big issue and I kinda feel like I'm being punished for doing quests or other stuff early on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha_Zeon
It was the same thing when they made ranking up much easier. It took me weeks if not months to get my first classes over r20. Now it can be done in half a day.
However, it's hard to tell how much SP I "lost" due to griding before those changes, so I get why they didn't do anything about it. The quests are a different story though. There's a clear record in my journal of the quests I completed and there's a clear reward for each of those quests. It should not be impossible to put an event NPC somewhere that lets me access those rewards.
Then again, it all depends on the information they have stored for each character. Maybe there's no way for them to tell if I did a quest before or after the patch. They have the information about the completion date in the achievements, but that might be hard to access ingame - I don't know. -
08-07-2011, 05:33 AMDrewW777
It seems somewhere along the line, we got a little off track here, since this thread was discussing the possibility of acquiring SPs from class specific quests (i.e., not leves).
Based on Bay's post(s) it seems they will remedy this in the future using mechanics similar to those used to grant class specific SPs from guildleves. do.od
Please correct me if I'm mistaken. -
08-07-2011, 11:06 AMAlpha_ZeonThis, we have acheivements right? There should be a date of when we completed a quest. So it cant be too hard to do it. /mehQuote:
Originally Posted by Efrye