Ever feel like you have to much stuff to do?

Raiding
Daily Roulette
Myth & Soldiery Grinding (if removed from The Hunt)
The Hunt
Atma Grind
Animus Grind
Novus Grind
Beastman Tribe Quest
Crafting
Gathering
Spiritbonding
Challenge Log
Sightseeing Log
Glamour Grinding
Leveling Alternative Classes

Sometimes I feel like I have way to much stuff to do and not enough time to do it. How does everyone else feel about this? I feel it would be much better if I could actually do some of these at the same time but normally you can't because of special requirements or it's just incredibly time consuming.

Not really. Because the rewards from all of the above will be obsolete next patch.

It's a start having lots to do, the challenge is giving all of them a decent reward.

Yes, it sure feels that way sometimes.

I find only doing one of those things the few hours I play a day helps progression with them all. For example I only gather and craft on sundays due to none of my fc mates being on during that day.

I 'always' run into this problem.

Work on master gearing my gatherer? My crafter? SB more materia for the meldings? Finish the gathering achievements? The crafting? Run around grabbing unspoiled nodes? Try and further deck out my FC room?
Or switch focus to combat? Run dungeons for tomes? ST for weekly drop? Finally bother with EX's? Continue Animus book? Hit the daily marks? See if elite marks aren't terrible at the moment?
Run FATE's/dungeons to level lower classes? Try and better gear my other 50's?
Maybe work on desynth? Gather mats to raise the main, or work on second/third desynths? Spam for demi's, or push to raise skill with 1stars?

And I haven't even bothered to 'start' the sightseeing log yet, was waiting for the groups of people to stop standing around the target locations. Kinda kills the mystery XD.
Thankfully the challenge log just kind of happens alongside everything else, but still...

Not enough time in the day -_-

I think its amazing how much stuff there is I took 3 months out and coming back to ex primals, new coil, DOH/DOL gear, beast tribes and so much more I do on a daily basis.

Remember you play this game to have fun not as a job or obligation to complete A B and C before D E and F arrive.

Actually, at the moment I don't really feel like I have much to do anymore, outside of doing hunts, doing ST until I get the loot drop I want each week, and map mining & treasure hunts.

*Finished my main job's Novus. Never doing that again for any other job until it's less time consuming and cheaper/free. Once was enough. Glad I have it though.

*Roulettes, not really that important now that I've finished my Novus. Can get myth faster via Hunts.

*Already had all beastman tribes to full rep long before 2.3 hit. I did still do beastman dailies after for a few months as it was another way of getting myth, sold, venture tokens, and companion exp.

*Chocobo hit Rank 10 before 2.3, but due to no idea how to make the Onions needed to advance it in a chocobo stall, can't go beyond Rank 10. (I don't get gardening, and not enthused to do so).

*I'm really not all that interested in doing Coil. Interested in the story, sure (I can Youtube that), but not going through the tedium of finding capable teammates only to spend months learning everything in each individual turn to finally reach the end. And for what? A weapon with slightly better base stats than what I have? Honestly the only thing that would be useful for me would be the i110 caster ring. Though I suppose if I was actually doing coil I would need quite a bit of the gear that drops there in order to up my Accuracy to the required levels.

*Crafting.. I want to get into, but it's just so boring, costly, and not really fun.

*Spiritbonding, meh. I do it sometimes, but never because it's fun to do.. because, it's not.

*Challenge Log. I like the idea, and it's fun. I never do everything in it, but I actually like this. You just wont catch me going out of my way to complete everything every week.

*Sightseeing Log was interesting the first week it was out. I even really tried to get several of the locations. Though due to how frustrating it is to wait on the required weather just to get a completion even if you find the right area to go to.. it's just too much of a hassle. Not nearly as fun to explore as it should be, when you actually get to the place you're suppose to go, but then have to wait hours just to get the credit? No thanks. I ended up stopping this as it just wasn't as fun as it should have been.

*Glamour Grinding? I don't even know what that is. Seriously, what does that mean?

*Leveling alternate classes. Well.. I pretty much have everything I want to level leveled to 50. Going to wait for Rogue/Ninja before I get my tanks to 50, and then I'll level Rogue/Ninja after that, or maybe even at the same time.

*I've finished all available quests in the game now, so there's no more of that to do.

*PvP: Just not a PvP player. /shrug I have only PvP'd in about 3-5 MMOs and have only actually enjoyed it in 1 of them and that was largely due to the fact that my RL friends played that game with me and I could PvP with them and talk to them while doing so in voice chat. Also that particular game's PvP was set up so that it played like an actual game and wasn't just a gankfest or slaughter grounds.

There are things I could/should be doing, sure, but I am not really feeling the drive to do them. Those are:
Coil
King Mog (Ex). Tried this with a few different groups, the one's that actually got close was with some friends and due to a misunderstanding I accidentally ruined our best attempt and haven't really felt like trying again since.
Leviathan (Ex). Haven't even attempted this yet.
Ramuh (Ex). Not unlocked because of the above two.

Honestly though, none of those I really need to do at all. I gain nothing from them for my main job (except stated items from 2nd coil) and my main job is what I would be going to do them as.

So yeah.. I'm kind of just waiting for 2.35 and 2.4 for more content that I actually enjoy doing.

I just do whatever the mood strikes me. The way I see it, having so much to do just means I have more options and there's always something when I'm bored of everything else.

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Originally Posted by DishSoap

Raiding

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This is the "everything" that most of people do and care for .

Sad but true .

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Originally Posted by Enthy

Not really. Because the rewards from all of the above will be obsolete next patch.

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With that logic, you won't do anything next patch either because the patch after that will make the 2.4 stuff obsolete as well.
In short terms, you never actually play the game "because it will be obsolete next patch".

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Originally Posted by DishSoap

Sometimes I feel like I have way to much stuff to do and not enough time to do it. How does everyone else feel about this? I feel it would be much better if I could actually do some of these at the same time but normally you can't because of special requirements or it's just incredibly time consuming.

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Playing Everquest from 2001-2004 and WoW from 2004-2009, and Everquest 2 from 2009 to 2011 (with some play in 2008 as well). Do I feel like I have too much? Nope... In fact when FFXIV first came out, my group had it all done prior to 2.1 and actually decided to stop playing because we had nothing to do. Personally I think we should have had all this stuff at launch. But its here now and better late than never. We've since come back with 2.3 and have plenty to keep us busy till 2.4 (hopefully).

I definitely feel that way, about having too much to do at the moment. It's a good feeling though. I have to level up some crafts to get my cross class abilities. I finally finished my atmas, so i have books i have to do. I have primals to unlock, I still have beast men dailies to do… I haven't even TOUCHED pvp or hunts yet, but i want to, I have tomes to farm still…

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Originally Posted by DishSoap

Raiding
Daily Roulette - No Reward (pointless)
Myth & Soldiery Grinding (if removed from The Hunt) - Is in the hunt finished in 1 day
The Hunt - decent content
Atma Grind - Drops subpar weapon (waste of time)
Animus Grind - See above
Novus Grind - See above
Beastman Tribe Quest - vanity only waste of time
Crafting - makes subpar gear waste if time except food and potions
Gathering - used to supply above
Spiritbonding - money making which has little use outside crafting which is useless and relics which are subpar weapons
Challenge Log - Only good for leveling
Sightseeing Log - Pointless no reward
Glamour Grinding - Vanity only, pointless
Leveling Alternative Classes - valid but short lived

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I find myself running in circles around my house everyday due to extreme boredom because 90% if the games content has been negated to point it is a pure time sink.

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

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I find myself running in circles around my house everyday due to extreme boredom because 90% if the games content has been negated to point it is a pure time sink.

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Well, if you really feel that way about everything there is to do in the game...maybe you should leave it for a different game? You might actually be happier that way, since you'll definitely have new stuff to do.

More options are actually better to be honest, you don't have to do them all, but either way, you have something to do. At least here there are tons of variety, more ways on how you want to spend your play time. You are playing a video game, which itself is a TIMESINK, as for grinding, it is the same everywhere.... Borderlands 2 is a shooter grind, so are all the Call of Duty games, or any other RPGs (western or japanese games) you grind for points to level up or perks to raise your stats slightly, or more shiny new weapons, every single games are time sink and grind in one way or another. If you want surprise and variety, go outside and play the game of REAL LIFE, where a costly mistake will send you to your early grave and there is no reset once it's GAME OVER.

Hm, the only exciting thing I want to do is SCoB every week with my static. I'd have a lot more to do if I cared about PvP or NM/spreadsheet grinding, but that's my problem and not the games'.

Even with SCoB once a week, there's a lot I do enjoy doing in game such as trying to fill out my Fishing Log, crafting, gathering, collecting vanity gear, ST, and trying to make a better jump puzzle in my personal room. It's great that there's a lot of side things to do even if they are "timesinks," because frankly, every game that doesn't rely on player-generated content is like that.

I find myself with little to do(That I actually want to do). Do dailies, continue working towards a pointless weapon, do Circus Tower/Cap Soldiery for the week. Proceed to fall asleep slowly playing.

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Originally Posted by DishSoap

Sometimes I feel like I have way to much stuff to do and not enough time to do it. How does everyone else feel about this? I feel it would be much better if I could actually do some of these at the same time but normally you can't because of special requirements or it's just incredibly time consuming.

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Personally, it's something that I love about this game. I like that if I want to group up, it's fairly easy and quick to do. If I want to solo, even at end-game there's PLENTY of things to do which actually enhances your character.

I love that I can be in the mood for anything and have it readily available, while feeling like I'm not absolutely forced to log in every day and complete the dailies or grind one dungeon 800 times. I really, really enjoy the options.

The clear separation in opinion here makes it clear that there is 'plenty' of stuff to do... people just don't care about any of it. Which isn't SE's problem, as long are there are enough people that 'do' care, which there seem to be at the moment.

If nothing on that OP's list appeals to you at all, or even if only Raiding does, you're probably in the wrong game. I foresee more and more fluff content, time sinks, and basically alternate ways to play that have nothing to do with getting epic gear coming our way. Golden Saucer for example ^_^ (which I can't wait for).

I've got so much to do, I have not had the time to do 2.3 patch questlines yet...

There is plenty to do in this game.
Some people just don't wanna do it all...because it's boring.
For me, it's more of me wanting to do it, and I don't wanna do it all
if it doesn't appeal to me.

There is plenty of stuff to do, but what you must remind yourself of is that this is #1: just a game; #2 an mmo (which means that it isnt designed for one person to do it all, all the time); #3 , due to being a game and an mmo, a Time sink. Those three things combined apply to anything that we do in the digital realm. Be that, League of Legends, Heroes of the Storm, Steam games, Console games, Hearthstone, Magic: The gathering, etc. (I dabble in all of those by the way), they are all time sinks. This doesnt make them bad for being a time sink, but there comes a time when you, as another poster said, have to just cut your losses, have fun with what you want to have fun with, and move on.

Case in point, I love Pokemon, but i never competitively battle. As such, each entry I buy could be construed as a waste of money because once i beat it, i am theoretically done with it. But, I still buy the titles because I get what I want from them, and that's all. FFXIV (and any mmo really) is the exact same.

Switch up your perspective and you'll feel a lot better about this stuff. Instead of looking at them as more activities that need to be done, look at it as - you have time for only X activities anyways, now you get more variety to pick and choose. Just ask yourself, "Do you really want to do that guildhest roulette every single day?"

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Originally Posted by DishSoap

Raiding
Daily Roulette
Myth & Soldiery Grinding (if removed from The Hunt)
The Hunt
Atma Grind
Animus Grind
Novus Grind
Beastman Tribe Quest
Crafting
Gathering
Spiritbonding
Challenge Log
Sightseeing Log
Glamour Grinding
Leveling Alternative Classes

Sometimes I feel like I have way to much stuff to do and not enough time to do it. How does everyone else feel about this? I feel it would be much better if I could actually do some of these at the same time but normally you can't because of special requirements or it's just incredibly time consuming.

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Stuff you "can" do is not the same thing as stuff you "must" do. It is OK to skip stuff for a while. Always make sure your playing the game instead of the game playing you. :)

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Originally Posted by ZephyrAM

The clear separation in opinion here makes it clear that there is 'plenty' of stuff to do... people just don't care about any of it. Which isn't SE's problem, as long are there are enough people that 'do' care, which there seem to be at the moment.

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I'd actually say it is SE's problem, it's kind of their job to keep players engaged and to keep playing. I'd also like to point out that relics are supposed to "eventually be BiS" for all classes, so it's not really something you can choose to do or not especially if it actually does become BiS.

Absolutely. I tried leveling alt classes but it's honestly so hard to keep up with everything.Sometimes I use my SCH but it' still level 30 after months... I have to pick days where I won't fight in order to level up gathering and crafting classes because I don't have time do to Roulettes, books, beast tribes and leves/provisioning missions. I still have one entry in my Sightseeing log... and I don't even raid!

Not so much too much to do as too little time left over to do it. Hardly played at all this year because there has been so much else to do.

It has always bothered me that MMOs are so stupidly designed. Because someone may play 24/7 the content needs to be very slow to progress. But for people playing 1 hour a week or something, there is no shortcuts to catch up. Why there isn't a NPC handing out things for free to people who play less I'll never know. It can't be that some MMO developer is counting on "Well this slow player will stick around for 328 years to finish our game and it will give us lots of cash!".

The future's best MMO will be the one that figures out that "Hey, there are multiple different humans playing our game, let's design it with multiple different ways to play". And I'm not talking different as in "You can either kill goblins or you can kill orcs and get the sword". I'm talking things like subscription time based NPC give aways, so that if you've owned the game a long time, you'll get items even without beating content. I'd call it "the FF8 MMO design" and refer to how the enemies auto-leveled with you, and your income was periodic and not about what you were doing.

Not really. All I do is Expert Roulette, Alexandrite map, Trial Roulette, Syrcus Tower (depending on whether I got my drop or not) and Spirit Bond for an hour and a half or Frontline's (though queue times get annoying). I would be doing Second Binding Coil (yet to beat Turn 6), but my static dissolved a month or so ago :/

Trying to do all those things is pretty unrealistic unless you are a no lifer.

At the moment I solely do PvP because that is what I currently enjoy. Haven't even looked at my first animus book. Don't let it become a job!

First we all complained that "all we do is log in, run AK/WP to cap myths, do coil, log out".

Now we complained that we actually have things to do.

Hurray.

I can't say much more than others have already. Enjoy your game, do what you want to, don't do what you don't want to.

Prioritise what's really important for you to get done. Prioritise some "just for me" time (go and have a laugh with friends in game, work on your vanity, pick a new dye color that goes with your eyes lol)

Yes, there's lots we can do, but thank gods! It means I don't have to do the same things over and over, and have plenty of other things to go do in game to take my mind off how bored i was with x lol. Take it easy :)

I kind of do, but really, I think its more the time each thing I need to do will take that's the problem.
Decided to go back and push each class to 50 before doing anything else, so that's going to take a while.
Then I'd like to get my crafting and gathering back up to snuff (though I don't honestly know if its worth bothering at this point)
Then there's gearing out my retainers for the higher-level ventures (which goes with the above in the case of my botanist)
Working on my Animus (and later my Novus)
Farming for mounts (though this one is more of a want that will never actually happen since I still refuse to touch any high-level instances)
etc.

With the time commitment each of these requires, they'll probably have bumped the scale twice on everything before I get finished with any of it. :-/

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Originally Posted by Enthy

Not really. Because the rewards from all of the above will be obsolete next patch.

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By this logic we should NEVER EVER bother playing any MMO because anything you do will become "obsolete" at some point.

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Originally Posted by DishSoap

Sometimes I feel like I have way to much stuff to do and not enough time to do it. How does everyone else feel about this? I feel it would be much better if I could actually do some of these at the same time but normally you can't because of special requirements or it's just incredibly time consuming.

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Better having masses of options than not enough things to do XD

I was always of the impression that MMOs are supposed to be grindy and have time-sinks (basically artificially inflated content) to keep people logging in and playing.

Personally, I don't feel like all the content is perfect; however, I have plenty on my plate to do, and I'm happy with that. I think the bigger problem would be if I was logging in and literally found myself with nothing to do.

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Originally Posted by Enthy

Not really. Because the rewards from all of the above will be obsolete next patch.

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That's some pretty flawed logic. If I could, I'd give you the "worse logic" award on this forum. What's the point of even playing an MMO, like some have said, if you have an attitude like that? Why do any of it? An MMO is always about progression - about getting that new body armour, or new weapon from the next big update. By your logic, none of that is worth it.

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Originally Posted by Merylx

That's some pretty flawed logic. If I could, I'd give you the "worse logic" award on this forum. What's the point of even playing an MMO, like some have said, if you have an attitude like that? Why do any of it? An MMO is always about progression - about getting that new body armour, or new weapon from the next big update. By your logic, none of that is worth it.

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You are right a mmo should always have new things to get from the next update.

This issue is when you are in a cycle.

Work to get BIS gear => Update (All gear is worthless) => Work to get BIs gear => Update (all gear is worthless) => Work to get BIS gear => Update (All gear is worthless) => Repeat

This is one reason so many people are quitting the game. The life cycle of gear and content is lower then any other AAA mmo out there. Yes SE is releasing patches fast and they are solid patches for the most part... but they are also negating everything just as fast which is really bad.

People want new rewards. But they also do not want other things they worked on to be worthless so fast. In my opinion all gear should last at the min. 1.5-2 yrs. Of course the issue is the game has ultra simplified stats, gear handouts in everything, and no time sinks outside relic quest.

Game needs horizontal growth badly. This vertical only progression is horrible.

In terms of the OP's topic, I suppose it's just another way to start another thread that makes zero sense, it may do to yourself on a personal level but for me 'on a personal level' I find the reasoning for starting this thread somewhat strange.

A MMO needs content to be able to sustain each variant of an individuals needs, there are those that go hardcore and want to do it all and there are those that will do what they can, above all just do what you enjoy doing the most and focus on that, then move onto the next slice of content, activities etc. If you find yourself being overwhelmed with things to do, be thankful you have the choices at your disposal to occupy your time.

Think back to being a fresh 50 (back at launch), where we only had 1 high end dungeon to grind on for Myth / gear. (yes we had Coil / Primals HM) but that was about it. A lot of people flaked due to the lack of content and a big hoohah about it all on these forums, now that SE have provided a stable flow of content in which the end user has the abilitiy to pick and choose how they wish to fulfill their night's worth of entertainment, we find a fault with it?

In relation to BiS being obsolete, I do agree with the statements that gear does become somewhat redundant very quickly in this game and it's less and less pertinent to actually "doing" a lot of the content as by the time you actually get the items you want, you'll only be able to enjoy them for a short period of time. But that being said the game and it's mechanics don't actually require you to be BiS, BiS is a user preference, as long as your accuracy capped etc then if you feel that strongly about BiS being obsolete, get your acc cap and then do other things that may actually spur some enjoyment out of you.

as for someone who just recently got all classes capped, I can say that there's still alot of stuff to do. At least it's not as overwhelming as in XI where it might be impossible to do alot there. lol

All of these doesn't matter and become moot point when someone keep poking on the 'time waste' thingie, since playing MMO itself are a waste of time to begin with and all achievements you got are just a vain after all. lol