BLM how to spend points effectively ?

Hello im pretty new in the game, and i want to make a BLM for my first character experience.

The thing is i don't know how to spend my points, i know the main attribute is Intelligence, but i don't know how much points spent on it, and what other attributes i have to improve.

Thanks by advance for your help ^^

As far as I know, most players spend all 30 points into Intelligence. You may want to spend a few points in piety so you're at 244 piety at level 50, however. The only reason to do so is solely for AoE reasons. When you have a scholar in your party and you use convert. at 244 piety you have exactly enough MP to cast another fire II and another flare. Any less you can cast a fire II, but no flare.

This is simply preferences, though.

Thank for your answer :)

Everything in Intelligence.

It depends on starting Race.

For yours I would have said all Int.

For a midlander I would have said 29 Int 1 Pie. (not for AoE reasons)

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

It depends on starting Race.

For yours I would have said all Int.

For a midlander I would have said 29 Int 1 Pie. (not for AoE reasons)

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Could you elaborate which reasons?

What are the secondaries attributes too improve plz ?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...age-Calculator

But I'll sum it up for you

Basically: If you do 640 damage on average, crit > determination. Spell speed is never bad as a black mage, but crit outweighs spell speed to a certain extend. In a nutshell: Crit >>> Spell speed > Det if you do more than 640 damage on average. (which is easily obtained with i85 gear)

by having 251 piety you don't need a sch you can always use fire II + flair, after a convert. IT also allows you to cast fire, blizzard three and thunder 2 after a convert, it also allows you to have 1 extra fire in your rotation before switching to umbral ice, which mean more astral fire up time and proc chances.

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Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...age-Calculator

But I'll sum it up for you

Basically: If you do 640 damage on average, crit > determination. Spell speed is never bad as a black mage, but crit outweighs spell speed to a certain extend. In a nutshell: Crit >>> Spell speed > Det if you do more than 640 damage on average. (which is easily obtained with i85 gear)

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The difference in spellspeed and crit is actually far smaller than what you are saying.

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Originally Posted by Urielparadox

by having 251 piety you don't need a sch you can always use fire II + flair, after a convert. IT also allows you to cast fire, blizzard three and thunder 2 after a convert, it also allows you to have 1 extra fire in your rotation before switching to umbral ice, which mean more astral fire up time and proc chances.

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Actually, it allows you to use Thunder 2 straight in Ice Phase instead of Thunder 1. I personally prefer to use Thunder 1 anyway, and don't have any issues with my DPS.

For a 5th Fire I while using Thunder II for the rotation, while a SCH in the party (I.e. most party's).

Makes the rotation smoother and imo more effective.

My rotation feels smoother with Thunder I though.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

For a 5th Fire I while using Thunder II for the rotation, while a SCH in the party (I.e. most party's).

Makes the rotation smoother and imo more effective.

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You can use a 5th fire anyway, you just have to use Thunder 1, which gives you a DPS increase on a quick mana tick, and means you just weave in a Blizzard 1 on a slow tick. On add phases, you can put two thunder 1's on different targets, because its always nice to get constant Thundercloud procs.

Imo, Thunder 1 + Blizzard 1 with more intelligence is more effective if you are running spellspeed. For Crit and Det, then I can see why people would want to put in Piety. However, there are plenty of better ways of getting the piety needed rather than sacrificing your main stat. For instance on an i90 Jewellery piece.

I personally put everything into INT. Some put into piety as well as int and my only guess is it allows an extra skill in their rotation, but as far as the skill rotations you will see in most guides full INT will support that just fine.

I could use Thunder I and Bliz I, but I find my current method to be better damage.

i90 Accessories are no where near as good as they should have been and if you have full i110, I don't think it's worth changing.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

I could use Thunder I and Bliz I, but I find my current method to be better damage.

i90 Accessories are no where near as good as they should have been and if you have full i110, I don't think it's worth changing.

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They are BIS for the ring slots, and the others are very close to their best i110 counterparts damage wise; with the added benefit of accuracy.

I've used T2 myself and compared it to T1 and B1, and my dps always comes out higher on the latter rotation, but thats probably due to my high spellspeed build.

We'll have to agree to disagree then.

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Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon

Imo, Thunder 1 + Blizzard 1 with more intelligence is more effective if you are running spellspeed. For Crit and Det, then I can see why people would want to put in Piety. However, there are plenty of better ways of getting the piety needed rather than sacrificing your main stat. For instance on an i90 Jewellery piece.

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I don't think using i90 accessories is worth using over i110 or even i100 accessories. It's 5 int difference between the HQ crafted and i110 accessories. Surely you can "sacrifice" one or two attribute points towards piety for that.

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Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine

I don't think using i90 accessories is worth using over i110 or even i100 accessories. It's 5 int difference between the HQ crafted and i110 accessories. Surely you can "sacrifice" one or two attribute points towards piety for that.

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Feel free to check the various stat weights kicking around. Because BLM scales very well off all three, and the two i110 rings for BLM are accuracy pieces, the rings are very viable at end game.

Personally, the best piece to trade off for Piety would be on the belt imo, but again, I don't need the piety, I can get it from Spellspeed food if I need it.

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Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon

Feel free to check the various stat weights kicking around. Because BLM scales very well off all three, and the two i110 rings for BLM are accuracy pieces, the rings are very viable at end game.

Personally, the best piece to trade off for Piety would be on the belt imo, but again, I don't need the piety, I can get it from Spellspeed food if I need it.

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this is exactly what i do as well.