Ridiculous wait time for PVP QUEUES.

On every day of the week, and week-ends included, queue times for PvP has been horrible. Always average 30 minutes or more. Wolve's Den is WORST.

Honestly, it seems like there's no point in PvPing, looks like hunting is the new cool thing. Hell some people are even hunting for no obvious reasons. I just wish they could fix those wait times somehow because this game has such a potential for pvp, but it's horrible right now..

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Originally Posted by KellerMan

On every day of the week, and week-ends included, queue times for PvP has been horrible. Always average 30 minutes or more. Wolve's Den is WORST.

Honestly, it seems like there's no point in PvPing, looks like hunting is the new cool thing. Hell some people are even hunting for no obvious reasons. I just wish they could fix those wait times somehow because this game has such a potential for pvp, but it's horrible right now..

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I agree with you completely. These queues suck, which is terrible because PvP is so fun.

I just don't think anyone is playing Wolves Den. On Excalibur I can't even get a premade together between my 3 PvP LS's. But the FL queue time shouldn't be this bad because it's insanely popular.

I can't wait to unlock FL. However, in the meantime, Wolved Den does have some atrocious wait times. Is the wait time that bad for all of the Wolves Den queues? I currently only have access to the Lv.30 queue.

Dude, the L50 wait times for wolves den are worst than the L30 ones. So yeah.

Im considering moving to W.S now. SE doesn't seem to care much about pvp in this game. I had high hopes for frontlines, but I ended up really dissapointed.
For me the end goal in any mmo is pvp, that is the reason why I gear up and work to get better, not just to get the best gear in game and sit in town all day. -_-

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Originally Posted by Clessx

For me the end goal in any mmo is pvp, that is the reason why I gear up and work to get better, not just to get the best gear in game and sit in town all day. -_-

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Same. How is WS pvp?

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Originally Posted by Koltik

Same. How is WS pvp?

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According to Tsubasa, it is really good.

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Originally Posted by Clessx

According to Tsubasa, it is really good.

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Just took a peek at the PvP forums over there and I gotta say, it has just as much QQ as this forum does it seems. Lots of complaints about it feeling like an afterthought.

Until Square adds more incentives to PvP (pets, more mounts, cosmetics, different arena/frontlines maps, seasons, rankings and rating, etc), Wolves' Den will remain inactive. I wouldn't give up on Square just yet though, they mentioned themselves that Frontlines has been getting a lot of positive attention and want to add more. The game itself is still relatively new. It'll take some patience but I would imagine a lot more PvP content to be added in the future and thus increasing its popularity.

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Originally Posted by KellerMan

it seems like there's no point in PvPing, looks like hunting is the new cool thing.

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Hunt is just a rush, when it is over, it is over.

If you came to ffxiv for the pvp you might as well leave. Their focus has always been on PvE. Pvp is just extra stuff to do that most people couldnt care less about. Sure they should make the rewards more great for more interest in it. I wouldn't mind at level 40 for more mounts. I already got my 100 wins for the horse and I'm not switching to any other go to do that because they always seem to lose and I love playing with my friends.

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Originally Posted by mcgoo94

If you came to ffxiv for the pvp you might as well leave. Their focus has always been on PvE. Pvp is just extra stuff to do that most people couldnt care less about.

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Don't be so sure. The lead developer is a big fan of PvP and is adamant that it be a big part of this game. I wouldn't write it off as a mere side dish just yet.

Peak time tonight, and average 20-30 mins for any PVP content. I wish we could have any feedback at all from SE. But none.

Daily roulette for wolves den is an awesome idea!! That would help it atleast that's for sure!

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Or, maybe they could make a roulette wolve's den option in Duty Finder?

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Excellent idea, bump for justice.

Hey community guy check this idea out!

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Originally Posted by Komoritane

Or, maybe they could make a roulette wolve's den option in Duty Finder? (i.e. luck-of-the-draw, whoever's in queue enters a random party?)

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Bump for this idea

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Originally Posted by Komoritane

Or, maybe they could make a roulette wolve's den option in Duty Finder? (i.e. luck-of-the-draw, whoever's in queue enters a random party?)

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+1 pls SE do this.

Wanna know how to fix queue times?

Put Allied Seals as a reward for completing each PVP match.

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Originally Posted by Tridus1x

Wanna know how to fix queue times?

Put Allied Seals as a reward for completing each PVP match.

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It doesn't work after 2.3 isn't it? So, no

I'd really like to see SE give players more incentive to play Frontlines. Its by far my favorite content in 2.3 but I can't play a match without jerking around for 30mins+ every single time =|

I wish they could increase the amount of servers we can be matched with/against, perhaps that would help.

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Originally Posted by Divinemight

It doesn't work after 2.3 isn't it? So, no

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Easy fix since we got about 3 months till 2.4.

I guess you like long queues though.

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Originally Posted by Tridus1x

Easy fix since we got about 3 months till 2.4.

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After I have played AV in WoW for so many years, I would rather to have a good quality game. No, thanks. Also, there are many ways to fix, give allied seals to hunt horde is not one of them. That is like drink toxic water to stop your thirst ....

It has to be something messed up with the algorithms in frontlines. They said that if the queue was taking too long it would bump down to 16v / 8v and I have yet to see that. I'm sitting here waiting for 45min in queue and it pops a 72 player match. It's either a bug or the algorithm for it to drop down a tier is longer than a hour. Which is stupid as hell.

I was in 48 men match quite a lot this week

If you're on Aether and really need your wolves' den fix, try queueing lvl30/40, the queues haven't been too bad. Here's the amount of games I was able to play this week so far just queueing for 5 days.
http://i.imgur.com/Gl0UWvI.png?1

Edit: This is of course queueing typically during primetime.

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Originally Posted by Vandril

Don't be so sure. The lead developer is a big fan of PvP and is adamant that it be a big part of this game. I wouldn't write it off as a mere side dish just yet.

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Still irrelevant if the majority of the playerbase doesn't care. The devs can add all the PvP they want, if no one wants to play it you'll end up with even longer queues as there is more content for the same number of players that actually want to do it.

FL was busy for the first week because it was new and shiny. The rewards and ranking system make it not worth doing.

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Originally Posted by Baneus

Still irrelevant if the majority of the playerbase doesn't care. The devs can add all the PvP they want, if no one wants to play it you'll end up with even longer queues as there is more content for the same number of players that actually want to do it.

FL was busy for the first week because it was new and shiny. The rewards and ranking system make it not worth doing.

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Of course. But what I'm saying is that, if the PvP they add has problems that are obviously hurting their popularity and outright ruining the PvP in this game, then the developers are more likely to do something about it due to one of the higher-ups on the team being into PvP. For the same reason, I don't think PvP will feel like as much of an afterthought or a side dish in FFXIV as it does in most other MMOs.

Besides, I don't think that the PvP in this game will die any time soon. I mean, hell, even the Wolves' Den survived fairly well despite itself, and Frontlines are nowhere near that amount of fail.