phlegetons cuirass and warrior

Got this last night and was wondering if any one had messed around with it in endgame environment. Losing the parry accuracy fir skill speed and determination.

Was curious if people are using this as a OT dps option or use as MT. Or thoughts on it.

While I am still a work in progress in regards to gear With the cuirass equipped my parry is at 500 and accuracy 426 which im sure could be accounted for with food and eventually further i100 items

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Originally Posted by repoe

Got this last night and was wondering if any one had messed around with it in endgame environment. Losing the parry accuracy fir skill speed and determination.

Was curious if people are using this as a OT dps option or use as MT. Or thoughts on it.

While I am still a work in progress in regards to gear With the cuirass equipped my parry is at 500 and accuracy 426 which im sure could be accounted for with food and eventually further i100 items

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With 426 accuracy what are you trying to hit though? D:

I was curious about this as well since I have the boots and cuirass, wondering their feasibility and where my stats should be sitting to start running coils other than the accuracy cap.

Meet your accuracy cap first. Then if you are desperate or lack of ToS, any upgrade goes.

If strictly speaking, I think only the gloves is a legit piece that can last you long until you get your HA tanking gloves. It is Acc/Parry which is meaningful for tanks.

The other pieces are pretty meh. If you are desperate for accuracy, I guess the belt can be useful. Boots is usable if you do not have accuracy issues.

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

With 426 accuracy what are you trying to hit though? D:

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Lol I understand your point and I definitely wasn't planning on doing t5 with it. Heck I won't even try t6 yet as i93 until im better equipped. I prolly should have elaborated better as I was interested in peoples testing who have a better variety of equips too use and experiment. On a side note. With myth: head,hands,ear,ring sold:waist, feet,ring allag: legs and neck. Ran all Hm dungeons and tankd ultima hm with no acc or enmity issues

I got the boots and like em. Parry and acc are still sitting pretty. Now if I can only get that damn UAT....

Crazy the differences in party preference on the UAT. I was lucky and able to get one on my 2nd run rolling against 8 other people. Kept running it to help a fc mate and it popped again, this time it got wasted cause no one rolled on it, found that pretty surprising

I was actually thinking of making a thread about this earlier, but in regards to BiS.

For you, at the moment, I would suggest getting either the Noct Lorica, Myth, or the Allagan chest. All provide a great amount of accuracy. From there, depending on which you go for, you can try getting the Allagan neck and wrist (both of which have accuracy) and stick with the Bravura Zenith orrrrr you can go the slightly more complicated route and get the Dual Haken. Another option is to save up your Soldiery, get the Unidentified Tomestone from ST, and buy the Weathered Conquerer (i100, +40 accuracy, can be upgraded to i110 with a Sands of Time). Depending on how much effort you want to put in, those are your best options for more accuracy.

Now, the current BiS (or, well, the assumed one) for WAR for 2.3 (outside of savage coil) includes the High Allagan Coat, a drop from T9. This is because it has +29 Crit, which gives it superior DPS to the Noct version which has 0 Crit and no other offensive stats (STR being the same on both).

The HA Coat has 39 STR, 29 Crit. The ST body has 34 STR, 27 DET, 26 SS.

The reason why I was going to make the thread is that, depending on the stat weight, this could outweigh the HA Coat in terms of DPS at the cost of some VIT and the 41 Parry. I've actually seen some players use the HA Coat as vanity over the ST body, which is what got me wondering if the ST body might actually be better. This greatly depends on the value of Crit vs SS, as at 1 STR = 4 DET the ST body would be 1 STR higher than the HA Coat (this isn't the actual ratio, just one of the closer scenarios).

(Side note: ^^^^ This could not be more bleeding edge, but at least you wouldn't need to farm T9 for the Coat! :rolleyes:)

Also, Parry is kind of... really bad. If you're counting on a parry to save you in any situation, you're leaving your faith up to RNG - which you should never do. If you happen to parry something while popping a cooldown and take, lets say, 500 damage instead of 2000 damage, you're still going to be getting pre-heals for that 2000 damage. I'm not really sure if it's the same on PLD, but on WAR you should really be trying to get DPS stats (Crit and Det, mainly). Once you get fully comfortable and understand the specific encounters, you can swap out VIT jewelry for STR jewelry, raising your DPS even higher while still maintaining the HP threshold for the highest hitting attack + an auto attack. The crafted DPS jewelry is especially good for this as you lose significantly less health from swapping jewelry, but still gain a large amount of STR (as well as secondary stats). The i70 set is significantly less costly than the i90 set, however the price of Materia seems to have skyrocketed as of late... depending on what melds you want you may want to stick with the regular i90 VIT/STR stuff.

One last thing: Accuracy is only important in Coil. The HM dungeons, the EX Primals, all of that has basically no accuracy cap. I think it's possible to miss on treasure hunt mobs (?), but that's it if at all. So only worry about accuracy in Coil, everywhere else you can just wear w/e you like.

I appreciate the op for this thread and yalls input, answering a lot of questions I had gearing and getting ready for coils

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Originally Posted by KrissCross

Crazy the differences in party preference on the UAT. I was lucky and able to get one on my 2nd run rolling against 8 other people. Kept running it to help a fc mate and it popped again, this time it got wasted cause no one rolled on it, found that pretty surprising

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I had to read that twice....and died a lil on the inside ; ;

Syn

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

One last thing: Accuracy is only important in Coil. The HM dungeons, the EX Primals, all of that has basically no accuracy cap. I think it's possible to miss on treasure hunt mobs (?), but that's it if at all. So only worry about accuracy in Coil, everywhere else you can just wear w/e you like.

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Levi and Ramuh(?) have accuracy caps I believe = to T5. But yes, other than that it doesn't matter.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

I've actually seen some players use the HA Coat as vanity over the ST body

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Not possible... the HA coat is ilvl 110, the ST body is ilvl 100. You can't glamour an item onto an item of lower ilvl.

Meh, I use Phlegetons Cuirass. Its a good sub in for T9 chest, since if you are going for T9 chest setup, the similar stats makes you not accuracy overloaded till RNG decides to grace you. Its certainly better for a crit/det build then Noct body, if you can maintain the accuracy (get a Conqueror).

As far as BiS min/maxing, it should pull very slightly ahead of the T9 body for DPS. I wouldn't sweat it though. I'd take the safety net of VIT/armor mixed in with epeen of i110 over Phlegetons slightly better (probably not even 1-2% max?) dps increase. T9 body will also be better if you plan on using STR accessories (non crafted) for the right side.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Not possible... the HA coat is ilvl 110, the ST body is ilvl 100. You can't glamour an item onto an item of lower ilvl.

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I thought that too, it was very confusing when I saw it. Might've been a lodestone error or something, but it still got me thinking about all that DET on the ST body. I had seen some other profiles with WARs that had the HA axe and the ST body equipped, though, however I assumed that was just being used as a filler piece until the T9 body.

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Originally Posted by Traek

As far as BiS min/maxing, it should pull very slightly ahead of the T9 body for DPS. I wouldn't sweat it though. I'd take the safety net of VIT/armor mixed in with epeen of i110 over Phlegetons slightly better (probably not even 1-2% max?) dps increase. T9 body will also be better if you plan on using STR accessories (non crafted) for the right side.

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Yeah, I assumed it was insanely marginal if at all. Guess it would make a good filler piece if you've got the full i90 crafted right side, maybe a bit more risky if you're going full Striking/Gloam though. Thanks for the clarification! :)

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Originally Posted by Synestr

I had to read that twice....and died a lil on the inside ; ;

Syn

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I can only assume everyone was locked out of being able to get more loot.