Can we buff the Daily-Hunt?

So, I think one of the biggest things SE can do right now is to boost the Daily-hunt. And I think the way they can do this is by boosting the rewards of it.

Right now, Daily Hunts give such a paltry sum of seals, that it's... hardly worth the effort. It's a good effort on SE's part, but it really doesn't feel worth it -at all-. Why can't we get refreshing Daily hunts? So once we've completed a set of 5, we get a -new- set of 5 to clear. And why can't we get Daily Hunts that are worth 5x as much? (IIRC, they're currently worth 1 seal / clear. Make them worth 5 seals/clear. Possibly even 10.)

In this way, you get people out doing content. People will be less desperate to do the B/A/S ranks, because they'll be geting consistent marks from their other farming efforts. Right now, the limited nature of the daily hunts v.s the unlimited rewards of spamming A/S rank mobs is making for a virtrol-filled end-game playerbase.

I don't think SE expected us to turn into such farmers over these sands/oils. They underestimate just how die-hard people are about boosting their ilevels. And I'll be honest, letting people earn the drops through small-time kills rather than suffering big-time hunting right now might be better for the general health of the population. You maintain a grind, but if you implement this, it'll help people I think.

S rank elite marks will have top display priority.
Because the elite marks maximum HP have been changed to reflect the party numbers required, we are also looking into adjusting the amount from the “Regular mark bills” and “Elite mark bills” reward. We will continue to make careful content adjustments as we monitor player trends and server stress loads.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2267548


there you go good sir this has your answer :)

Hopefully something is done about the "radar" cheating thing?

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2267548

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Unfortunately, this doesn't solve the major issues. For example, they buffed the display priority, but low-end rigs and PS3 players still can't see S-rank mobs because of how massive the hoard is. People are only able to get Bronze-rewards due to this (I actually was in a party where I attacked from 100% in a party of 7, and got bronze, because my party couldn't see anything - I was the only one hitting it, basically 'solo-contribution.')

Not only that, the render priority doesnt' fix the issue of the zergs and people feeling locked out from getting rewards / being blocked off from the massive trains and not beign able to get there fast enough.

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Originally Posted by StoneRosetta

Hopefully something is done about the "radar" cheating thing?

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An interesting idea! But I think people are quick to call the Radar the cheat when, by my understanding, it doesn't increase their range beyond what they can see. In places like the mines in outer la noscea, though, it's definitely an unfair advantage (Seeing through walls, by my understanding.), but I think the issue will be there regardless of what we do in regards to Radar. This just seems like the scapegoat for everything at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

S rank elite marks will have top display priority.
Because the elite marks maximum HP have been changed to reflect the party numbers required, we are also looking into adjusting the amount from the “Regular mark bills” and “Elite mark bills” reward. We will continue to make careful content adjustments as we monitor player trends and server stress loads.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2267548

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They need to give all Hunts display priority, not just S. I've been at A and B that disappear because the crowd is so big. One today all I could see was a floating mass of Garuda-egis.

But yes, they do need to buff Daily Hunts. Either make the rewards larger, give you a completion bonus at the end, or maybe a weekly completion bonus if you finish all the Hunts for the week. Right now they're hardly worth the effort. I do them just for variety, but I don't get much more than personal satisfaction.

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

Right now, Daily Hunts give such a paltry sum of seals, that it's... hardly worth the effort.

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They are meant for casuals and their little rewards like Mytho gear for 20 seals and choco reset stone. They are not meant for the same crowd who running wildly around zones slaying every NM they see.

So by giving higher rewards, you think fewer people will flock to them?

So the little radar app you don't consider cheating? It still gives who ever uses it an advantage does it not? To the point some know where the boss is gonna spawn? Thus in a sense monopolizing bosses and keeping others from getting full credit? Why even play a game if you need to use mods hacks or apps? Oh wait, I thought those doing so want a challenge right? <--- that is not aimed at everybody wanting a challenge, only those that do that use said apps.

On another note how do you tell which class the boss is? On for example Naul, would being in a pt get one full credit since he dies so fast? I just figured out on Behemoth that I needed to be in a pt for any -_-;credit

You give higher rewards to the daily / weekly , and nerf the randoms to near nothing. Solved.

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

So by giving higher rewards, you think fewer people will flock to them?

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Hunts are made to be highly competitive and thus having rather high rewards from them (it's drop from t7-t8, which most ppl will not be able to complete till some time and echo in 2.4). The more "efficient" hunter, the faster he will get a reward (and this is not a radar thing, but rather having a good social skills and other legit tricks).
On other hands casuals were involved in this content on completely separate basis, thus having completely different story under the same name, with their own rewards.
Buffing daily hunts reward is just giving free ride to the first part, why organize and compete when you can get the same from daily hunts?

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

So by giving higher rewards, you think fewer people will flock to them?

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I think perhaps capping the weekly mark at exactly its reward will allow everyone a chance to get full credit, thus it wont be farmed decreasing the frustration with weekly marks. Otherwise other bosses will be fair play, even though ppl will still bicker over those ones.

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Originally Posted by Wulfyn

Why even play a game if you need to use mods hacks or apps? Oh wait, I thought those doing so want a challenge right? <--- that is not aimed at everybody wanting a challenge, only those that do that use said apps.

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You really don't need hacks to be successful hunter. Moreover, I can stand in city, literally leeching, and still have full credit of over 70% of A marks.
Your point comes from lack of experience and understanding how it's done by "hardcore hunters" those grab most of spoils - it requires general understanding how system works (in both spawn mechanics and participation calculations), a proper party and a good access to information.

For me its kind of a damn if I do damn if I don't situation when I do spot a boss. Do I shout it out? If I see someone or a few killing it I dont say anything, dont want to hear the childish bickering and name calling. Sad to say there are times I have seen a boss with no one around, and I am tempted to kill it or try killing it (see how bad this one will hurt type deal).

With all the fighting going on over these bosses, I see players trying to lay guilt trips on others for killing yet I doubt if they feel guilty themselves. In the end it comes down to do I want to put up with the crap I will get if I exercise fair play or not even bother with the nms. Personally the abuse between players in shout got old day one of hunts. There has to be a better way for this to be implemented.

They could give hunts a reverse-resistance buff, that it would have 99% resistance of everything and everytime it gets hit it'll have less resistance to that (the opposite of FFXI AV patch where it builds resistace everytime it gets hit)

so attacking hunt will deal 1 dmg , 2 dmg, 4, dmg, 8 , 16 and so on (magic and physical resistance seperated), it'll give time for others to reach the fight, and it WILL make the fight longer wether it's solo or alliance, B ranks will still be soloable just longer, and higher ranks will require teamwork to remove resistances and will be a long fight even if 5 FCs were on it


cause in the current system, we dont have time to know what dangerous attacks those hunts have, they just die too fast

While it does reward gil, hunting daily marked mobs for a measly 1 -2 allied seals is really... not worth the trouble of going after it.

For now, I'm not doing any marked bills until the rewards are adjusted.

I don't want it to have the same rewards as elite marks but 1~2 seals per 3 monsters/fate boss? Really??

I'd do it for 10~20 seals reward per daily mob/fate boss and 50 for weekly without the gil reward. That way people still have a reason to hunt outside marked bills, at the same time.. dailies won't seem like a joke. And more people will actually do them.

Facepalm. Yea.. I only realize the amount is close to the elite mark rewards, lol. Could be just the seals without myth or sol and no chance of acquiring logs.

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Originally Posted by Yarikh

I'd do it for 10~20 seals reward per daily mob/fate boss and 50 for weekly without the gil reward. That way people still have a reason to hunt outside marked bills, at the same time.. dailies won't seem like a joke. And more people will actually do them.

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This means that it's just not for you. Give you full set of ilvl 90 mytho gear in just one day? Isn't it a little... to much for a reward for 30 mins of very easy task?
And as far as my understanding goes daily hunts are not meant (at least in sensible way and not "let's farm those 2 seals i need to 750 mark") to get all those fancy stuff like sand/oil, glamour gear and new minions.

If the dailies gave 10 and 20 seals each instead of a pathetic 1 or 2, I would do them almost every day and end up with a sands of time about once every 2 weeks. At least anyone can participate in the daily targets so it is fair, unlike the elite targets which are hunted to extinction by the fastest people in the world who are the only people who ever get to see them and take all the rewards.

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

If the dailies gave 10 and 20 seals each instead of a pathetic 1 or 2, I would do them almost every day and end up with a sands of time about once every 2 weeks. At least anyone can participate in the daily targets so it is fair, unlike the elite targets which are hunted to extinction by the fastest people in the world who are the only people who ever get to see them and take all the rewards.

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Why casuals should be given sands that are currently drop from T8/T9 for free every 2 weeks? Even coil raiders post T9 get them once per month on average.
What people just want - is a freebie sands that requires no efforts and of course - this part of the crowd doesn't like competition or working in groups, they just want something to be given them for free.
You should wait probably for 2.4, when current content will be scaled down for casual crowd.