Why I find FF14 enjoyable

I've played quite a few MMOs over the years and I have to say, despite the fact that I don't care too much about the Final Fantasy franchise, I (surprisingly) really like FF14.

Despite what people say, I believe FF14 is a good blend of modern and old-school.

The key thing is that the game doesn't segregate players. It's probably the only MMO I've played that not only encourages players to play together but it succeeds.

- There are emotes for cross-language communication and cross-server play (which can help widen your Duty Finder search).
- There is cross-platform play between PC and Playstation (which helps alot with server population).
- Fates are not only entertaining but they're also worth doing.
- Character levels scale down for dungeons and Fates so that you can play with your friends

The people I meet are cheerful/positive and being able to scale down and queue for low-level dungeons drastically increases dungeon variety.

I love the game. Most of the complaints seem absurd to me. It's like I'm playing a totally different game from them.

Fates are fun...for awhile. That novelty will wear off. :P Otherwise I agree, this game is awesome.

The exploration factor in this game is awesome. I'm leveling my second job now, have a 48 PLD and got my BRD to 46 last night and still coming across new areas! I agree we must be playing a different game!

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Fates are fun...for awhile. That novelty will wear off. :P Otherwise I agree, this game is awesome.

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I don't get all the fuss over Fates. Fates are by far better than FFXI's mystery lottery placeholders for nm's/camping & getting ninja claimed. And they're better than instances.

FFXIV is the pinnacle of the franchise. It's as if they took everything that was fun from every FF game, solved all of the true annoyances, & rolled it all up in one beautiful piece of art.

I've recently realized that I'll often just rotate the camera, zoom in/zoom out, or run around & watch the world... a hour later I realize I haven't gotten any myth or signed up for a roulette. Yet I still had fun.

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

I don't get all the fuss over Fates. Fates are by far better than FFXI's mystery lottery placeholders for nm's/camping & getting ninja claimed. And they're better than instances.

FFXIV is the pinnacle of the franchise. It's as if they took everything that was fun from every FF game, solved all of the true annoyances, & rolled it all up in one beautiful piece of art.

I've recently realized that I'll often just rotate the camera, zoom in/zoom out, or run around & watch the world... a hour later I realize I haven't gotten any myth or signed up for a roulette. Yet I still had fun.

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If you don't get it, you either didn't play at launch or haven't done enough fates yet. You might also be someone who thoroughly enjoys them, and I have no problems with that. But anyway, like I said...I feel this game is awesome. Like all things it isn't perfect, but despite it's few imperfections it is nothing short of amazing.

The exploration factor in this game is awesome. I'm leveling my second job now, have a 48 PLD and got my BRD to 46 last night and still coming across new areas! I agree we must be playing a different game!

Hildibrand Series

Games need more of this crazy misadventurer Side stories that give you a good laugh becuase game start to feel a bit stale if it 90% serious storyline all the time.

It good to lighten the mood and take a break from all those serious business moments in the game's main, class, job, and side storylines.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

If you don't get it, you either didn't play at launch or haven't done enough fates yet. But anyway, like I said...I feel this game is awesome. Like all things it isn't perfect, but despite it's few imperfections it is nothing short of amazing.

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Well, I'm sure I've farmed them all for Atmas. During which I unlocked all the Fate-specific achievements & racked up a sizable amount of seals to use for ventures. They get you out in the world, the fate lore was entertaining, my chocobo got xp, I got some gil & mats. I think it was a brilliant system.

Glad to see a positive thread. I agree, I just like playing the game. Even though I am beating T9 I still like to even just hang out and do random stuff. Beautiful graphics sometimes have me just walking around looking at crap for no reason lol. Can't wait for them to get going and add lots more fun things to do. (LOTS MORE SIDEQUESTS LIKE HILDEBRAND HINT HINT lol)

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

Well, I'm sure I've farmed them all for Atmas. During which I unlocked all the Fate-specific achievements & racked up a sizable amount of seals to use for ventures. They get you out in the world, the fate lore was entertaining, my chocobo got xp, I got some gil & mats. I think it was a brilliant system.

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Fair enough. But like I said, I have no problems with that if people enjoy them. To each their own. I only do them if I have to, most days.

Maybe as a Summoner I have less issue with them than other jobs do. I could pretty much solo any of them except that damned fuzzball at the Burning Wall.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Hildibrand Series

Games need more of this crazy misadventurer Side stories that give you a good laugh becuase game start to feel a bit stale if it 90% serious storyline all the time.

It good to lighten the mood and take a break from all those serious business moments in the game's main, class, job, and side storylines.

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DoH/DoL class quests don't seem to be that serious. I am almost done with weaver (lvl 47), and I've enjoyed it a lot. I hope he gets the girl!

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

Maybe as a Summoner I have less issue with them than other jobs do. I could pretty much solo any of them except that damned fuzzball at the Burning Wall.

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I have no issues completing them as DRG with my chocobo healing, even the single boss Fates that are weaker than the rare spawn super Fates like Gorgimera and Eyes, which require way more than a single person. The issue for me is simply doing them in the first place. It's rare that I'll hop into a random fate, and only then it's usually because others are there and will be completed asap. People do enjoy Fates after doing hundreds or thousands. I'm just not one of them. Other than that I have very few problems with the game, and even those are trivial at best.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Fates like Gorgimera and Eyes, which require way more than a single person.

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oh right... forgot about those. The Eyes, grounds littered with dead bodies, attack of the chinchillas & ice sprites. Good times!

I have to say that I found this game far better than I could have imagined when I started several months ago. Didn't guess that I keep subscribed for this long as with even WoW my interests wore off after couple off months. While this game doesn't have so awesomely large overworld stuff like other games, I find it satisfying that those areas don't get too tiring to me. In WoW for example there was too much to explore that in the end I would just ignore running the wilds and instead did mainly just dungeons and BGs.

This game feels more specialized in a way and the fact I can level multiple classes, micromanage stuff (like retainers), plus depth of crafting classes makes me feel that I have more control over things. In the end that stuff has kept me interested more longer than I first thought, and I hope it stays so. :)

I have started leveling crafting classes like and I'm rediscovering the world (and the game itself). Looking for nodes gets you to explore every inch of the map. I have also started to use Chocobo porters, hiding all bars and just enjoying the scenery. So pretty!

All in all, my only complaints about the game are petty. I look forward to playing every chance I get.

Everyone loves this game, that's why they complain.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Fates are fun...for awhile. That novelty will wear off. :P Otherwise I agree, this game is awesome.

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It's like any piece of content, I find. A cool dungeon can get stale if you do it constantly over and over. So I don't think there's anything wrong with the Fate system. GuildWars 2 has something similar but, for some reason, I never got the same amount of satisfaction completing them.

I don't know how it's like with Leves once you start playing with a secondary class, though... I could foresee waiting and hunting down Fates being a chore.

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Originally Posted by Gix

It's like any piece of content, I find. A cool dungeon can get stale if you do it constantly over and over. So I don't think there's anything wrong with the Fate system. GuildWars 2 has something similar but, for some reason, I never got the same amount of satisfaction completing them.

I don't know how it's like with Leves once you start playing with a secondary class, though... I could foresee waiting and hunting down Fates being a chore.

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Yeah, good point. At launch the only reasonable way to level another class was mostly with Fate groups. I suppose burning myself out on them was my own fault, but I also wanted to level another class at the time. They have also been prevalent in the relic quests so far, which probably contributes to how I feel about them. Granted, the fates for the books weren't too bad, I'm just not a fan. The entire system is decent, though. To me however, it's kind of the whole "too much of a good thing" concept. Others feel differently, which I respect.

I only started doing FATEs when I was Atma hunting and I never paid much attention to them because I only cared about the drop. The way the books are structured is a lot better, since I have only 3 to focus at a time and I can read all the text and enjoy them in their entirety.

Now I have started to not care about them again since I enjoy leveling up through dungeons more. If they allowed your chocobo to get exp from FATEs, I'd have a reason to go back to them again. I only stop and do one if I see someone's alone and struggling these days.

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

I don't get all the fuss over Fates. Fates are by far better than FFXI's mystery lottery placeholders for nm's/camping & getting ninja claimed. And they're better than instances.

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Are you really comparing NMs to fates?

They have pretty much 0 in common. You would have to compare it to things like garrison, ToAU invasion thingy and things like that.

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Originally Posted by Amberion

Are you really comparing NMs to fates?

They have pretty much 0 in common. You would have to compare it to things like garrison, ToAU invasion thingy and things like that.

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Fates that spawn a named boss are comparable to nm's. But yes, there are other types of fates too.

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

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FFXIV is the pinnacle of the franchise. It's as if they took everything that was fun from every FF game, solved all of the true annoyances, & rolled it all up in one beautiful piece of art.

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Maybe for casual players, but there a quite a lot of people who are looking for more, with their track record I'm sure Yoshi and team will deliver, but it's bit early to be calling this the pinnacle.

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

Fates that spawn a named boss are comparable to nm's. But yes, there are other types of fates too.

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And no, fates, even with a named boss are nothing like NMs. Sorry bro.

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

Fates that spawn a named boss are comparable to nm's. But yes, there are other types of fates too.

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He's saying that because fates are useless in terms of character progression compared to NMs, ppl use to get it wrong, some ppl don't hate fates because they are boring, it's because they are a waste, you may like doing them for nothing, most ppl does not.

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Originally Posted by Nadrojj

And no, fates, even with a named boss are nothing like NMs. Sorry bro.

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A difference in criteria then. To me they are nm's done right.

Im assuming many people here that find this game fun, also have no problem with building a character thats an exact clone of the rest.

So much fun to grind boring content focused mainly on queueing for everything, so that in the end you're rewarded with a clone of everyone else's character.

I have not grinded a single thing, no idea what you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by Moqi

I love the game. Most of the complaints seem absurd to me. It's like I'm playing a totally different game from them.

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This all the way

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Originally Posted by Moqi

I have not grinded a single thing, no idea what you're talking about.

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You also didn't start ARR ready for endgame.

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Originally Posted by Otoha

You also didn't start ARR ready for endgame.

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Does it matter? They said they didnt grind they didnt grind. People who grind are forcing themselves to grind. There are people that are perfectly happy about not having that shiny NOW!!!!!! So they don't grind.

I like to see this. Positivity and appreciation for what is and the intent that went into it. Kudos to the OP for taking the time to appreciate!

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Originally Posted by Gix

It's like any piece of content, I find. A cool dungeon can get stale if you do it constantly over and over. So I don't think there's anything wrong with the Fate system. GuildWars 2 has something similar but, for some reason, I never got the same amount of satisfaction completing them.

I don't know how it's like with Leves once you start playing with a secondary class, though... I could foresee waiting and hunting down Fates being a chore.

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Hi! ^^

In reply to this: you only have your PLD 45. Wait until you decide to get all 18 other classes (19 soon) to max, the which battle class will make you do fates until you will go even higher than the achievement of 3000 fates.

Then we'll talk again.

- For the rest; thank you: I agree with you that this game is well done, but at the endgame (which you are not) the repetitive actions will make some peeps being irritated.

So kudos, you are a casual playing for the fun of it, and with the time investment, you will always have something new to discover, hence you should never be bored. /clap

So yes, your foreseeing is real, beware of the catch!

Enjoy the game, that's all that counts.

I just started gathering again, and I find it more relaxing than fishing, imagine ^^

Everyone should stick with what they find they love, and then pace it so not to get bored.

Glad we have peeps like you that finds the little things in this game that makes it worth playing ;)

I'm enjoying this game too! ^_^

Same. Love the game. Lots to do and more to come.

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Originally Posted by Otoha

You also didn't start ARR ready for endgame.

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I... what? No sarcasm, I don't understand what you're trying to say. I am working on my third book for my Thyrus Animus, never ran Brayflox more than once when it came on the Duty Roulette. The clostest I've ever gotten to grinding was running Moogle HM 6 times because I wanted the wand (so cute! Can't wait to upgrade it), otherwise I've been enjoying the game and most of what is has to offer never feeling that I had to mindlessly repeat content in order to get something. Most stuff usually has a couple of options to get it, so you're never forced to repeat that same one thing - the only exception I think of right now is Atmas.