t9 as whm, any tips?

We've been getting to 2nd golems now quite well and a bit further, but as WHM, I'd like to hear some tips people are using, healingwise.
Yes, I know to Stoneskin tank on Beak/explosion, but wondering if there are some tricks to save some mp as I tend to drop to 2-3k (depending on dives hitting other players or not, raising etc.) when we get to phase 2.
I'm not 100% sure if it's good or not but it feels its a bit low considering thats not even half of the fight. (Yes I use shroud effectively.)
Currently i'm popping DS+ medi2 for Chariot/Thermobeam, and on doubledives, I go to middle, pop medi2 + medi (timing it so that nobody dies from the 2nd ones unless they doubledip on others).

2.5~3k MP should be fine entering golem phase, golem phase requires very occasional healing (Demolish = medica 2, the mountain buster-ish attack from green golem), thus you should be able to regenerate a respectable amount of MP (you can shroud 2 times here, 1 at the beginning of golem phase, 2nd during megaflare countdown).

I am able to enter Heavensfall phase with 4k MP consistently thanks to the huge amount of healing downtime in golem phase (Yes I can help to dps, but the entire golem phase is completely time based, you can't "push phase" if you dps faster, so I just assist in killing the 1st golem to prevent color change, and then /mdance while the dpsers do the work).

In conclusion, your MP entering phase 2 seems to be fine, just utilize phase 2 to regenerate as much MP as you can, good luck!! :)

Your rotation is fine. You'll have the chance to pop shroud again before the 2nd set of meteors drop and it will be off cool down right around heavensfall.

Golem phases give you a chance to recover mp. I dps a little and put ss on everyone and I usually have full mp going into heavensfall.

Make sure you are keeping regen up on the tank.

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Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

(Demolish = medica 2, the mountain buster-ish attack from green golem)

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WHM should be camping near the green golem to interrupt demolish with fluid aura. It can miss due to uncapped accuracy though, but better than the alternative of demolish always going off every attempt.

@Kaisha

Yeah I was doing that, but my group ended up requesting me not to do so as 1 in 10 times somebody dies to the golem after pushing (push towards outside, now golem is facing inside, blur melee go whack = mountain buster dead, push left or right, blur range stand there, mountain buster dead) so I'll just bite the 450 mp cost medica 2 in return for 100% survival rate =\

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Originally Posted by zandervont

We've been getting to 2nd golems now quite well and a bit further, but as WHM, I'd like to hear some tips people are using, healingwise.
Yes, I know to Stoneskin tank on Beak/explosion, but wondering if there are some tricks to save some mp as I tend to drop to 2-3k (depending on dives hitting other players or not, raising etc.) when we get to phase 2.
I'm not 100% sure if it's good or not but it feels its a bit low considering thats not even half of the fight. (Yes I use shroud effectively.)
Currently i'm popping DS+ medi2 for Chariot/Thermobeam, and on doubledives, I go to middle, pop medi2 + medi (timing it so that nobody dies from the 2nd ones unless they doubledip on others).

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I think there is not a need to Medica2 + Medica after Therombeam and dives, Medica 2 with your SCH do a Succor should be fine. After Therobeam and Dives no one should take damage until the next Beam/Dive anyways, so the Medica 2 should tick fine.

And others also mentioned that Golems phase requires minimal healing, it is just tank healing and raid heal is due to Demolish from the green golem.

Once the second set of golem dies and everyone stacks up for Megaflare, your Bard should be playing Mage's Ballad until Megaflare fires off, wait for 1s or so and switch to Foe's Requiem and it will be just nice that Nael dives down and be available for attack again. With this and your proper MP management, your MP should be back to 3.5k and above easily.

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Originally Posted by Kaisha

WHM should be camping near the green golem to interrupt demolish with fluid aura. It can miss due to uncapped accuracy though, but better than the alternative of demolish always going off every attempt.

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It's always fun and games till the entire raid gets boulderclapped
I just Virus and Medica 2

And for OP I can't really say much more (than what has already been said) than remember HQ X Ethers and HQ Pineapple juice exists

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

I think there is not a need to Medica2 + Medica after Therombeam and dives, Medica 2 with your SCH do a Succor should be fine. After Therobeam and Dives no one should take damage until the next Beam/Dive anyways, so the Medica 2 should tick fine.

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After Thermobeam I just Divineseal medica 2 the group.
on doubledives I throw both medicas as it sounds to me the better option than use medi2, then cure each targeted player afterwards.

Use Shroud the moment you are at 800-900 mana, this will probably occur around the first Dynamo - Afterwards just keep it on cooldown. If you're healing effeciently you should be at around 3.2-3.6 by the times the golems spawn (with a mana pool of 5k at least, if you're far below this i would recommend using more piety gear than DET or CRIT)

Only time you wouldn't use it on cooldown is if you get lucky with kill order on golems, green dying first and blue silenced, you'll then likely have full mana by phase 3.

Believe it or not, phase 4 isnt actually very healing intensive, so dont be frightened if you see yourself entering it with sub 2.5k

If you're still having mana problems, you could consider using crafted gear and socketing piety. Many people underestimate the amount of additional mana you get from that 2% regen over a 13m fight.

After reading this thread I'm wondering if I should put pie in my novus...

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Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

Yeah I was doing that, but my group ended up requesting me not to do so as 1 in 10 times somebody dies to the golem after pushing

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Originally Posted by Zanhe

It's always fun and games till the entire raid gets boulderclapped

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Aura him sideways into a boulder.

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

I think there is not a need to Medica2 + Medica after Therombeam and dives, Medica 2 with your SCH do a Succor should be fine. After Therobeam and Dives no one should take damage until the next Beam/Dive anyways, so the Medica 2 should tick fine.

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WHM should be close to solo healing the first phase with spot-lustrates and soil/virus (for Ravensbeak) from the SCH. Med2 is enough for Thermionic.

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Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur

After reading this thread I'm wondering if I should put pie in my novus...

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There's always room for more pie.

Oh. Wait...

:)

I hope you don't mind me quoting like this:

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Originally Posted by zandervont

[...]Yes, I know to Stoneskin tank on Beak/explosion[...]

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It might something to do with gear on this mechanic, but I tend to just focus target Nael, watch the Ravensbeak channel and time my Cure II to the attack. The scholar does the same with Adlo. So far, there hasn't been an issue with the tank getting one-shot from the attack since my group tank-swaps after it hits. I'm not sure if using stoneskin is more mana-efficient or not as compared to a Cure II. Though mitigation might be preferable to reactive healing.

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Originally Posted by zandervont

[...]Medica II + Medica on double Meteor Stream[...]

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I think just a Medica II is enough here if you lay a Cure I on the party members getting double-tapped by Nael. My group calls out when someone gets two bops during Meteor Stream, but it requires clear communication over VOIP.

In general as a WHM, I try and use DS with my Medica-spells, and dump enmity with Shroud afterwards. Since you still build aggro on Nael during the golem phase but the tank can't interact with her, you want to make that enmity reduction if possible. One of the first times we got to Heavensfall, Nael jumped on me instead of the tank because of that and subsequently turned to cream the rest of the party :<