Can we get some better trophy support for PS4?

Seriously, this is quite lacking. With all of the new content in the game, it'd be great if they added some trophies to go along with them. I know that they add in-game achievements but I'd rather work for something more universal. Warframe seems to add new trophy lists all the time.

What is it with trophies in video games? The Achievements that are updated with every patch in this game is enough.

I only care about achievements on xbox so the trophies don't really affect me but on xbox I like to complete games 100% as much as possible. Having said that, it really pisses me off when a game company adds more achievements to a game I completed and then it's not completed anymore, or if I'm in the process of completing it, it just puts me further from my goal. Again this doesn't really affect me kuz I don't care about trophies the same but just for personal oppinion

You have loads of in-game achievements.
I'd much rather they focus on other, actually significant, stuff.
If we went down this path, then Steam users would start asking for achievements/badges/cards, etc. as well.

Video game companies are only allowed a certain amount of trophies per game that give points unless you just want trophies that give zero. Other than that . Expansion packs and certain dlc bring more trophies but not patches.

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Originally Posted by Tashigi

You have loads of in-game achievements.
I'd much rather they focus on other, actually significant, stuff.
If we went down this path, then Steam users would start asking for achievements/badges/cards, etc. as well.

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But it's significant to me, and I pay the same sub fee as you. I'm sure if they added trophies with new content it wouldn't bring the biggest delay.

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Originally Posted by Macka

Video game companies are only allowed a certain amount of trophies per game that give points unless you just want trophies that give zero. Other than that . Expansion packs and certain dlc bring more trophies but not patches.

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Untrue, warframe keeps getting updated and there are no expansions for it.

I wish they would add some new trophies. Here are some I think should have been added. One for all level 50 DoW/DoM classes, One for all level 50 crafting classes, One for beating all extreme primals, One for Obtaining all Relics, One for Each Beastmen Tribe rank 4, One for Rank 10 Chocobo. There are a lot more they could add but I do feel like those should be in.

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Originally Posted by Jubez187

But it's significant to me, and I pay the same sub fee as you. I'm sure if they added trophies with new content it wouldn't bring the biggest delay.

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Adding trophies would never delay any DLC or Expansion.

Best thing about Trophies/Achievements is it keeps people playing games longer (if you are a completionists). The difference between in-game Achievements that we have in FFXIV and the Trophies are people can't really see them, unless you look on the lodestone, And lots of people want that Trophie/Achievement score to be really high.

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Originally Posted by Jubez187

Untrue, warframe keeps getting updated and there are no expansions for it.

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It is true maybe warframe didn't use all there allotted trophies and decided to add them over time.

Edit after doing some research Warframe didnt have any trophies at its release and as I said added them later.http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/...-trophy-guide/

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Originally Posted by Macka

It is true maybe warframe didn't use all there allotted trophies and decided to add them over time.

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Could you provide a link or something? I've never heard of a game company only having so many slots for achievements. I know a few games have 99 achievements.

So FFXIV ARR has 39 Trophies even if there is a limit of 99, That leaves room for a lot.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

Could you provide a link or something? I've never heard of a game company only having so many slots for achievements. I know a few games have 99 achievements.

So FFXIV ARR has 39 Trophies even if there is a limit of 99, That leaves room for a lot.

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Its not the amount that is the limit, its the score that is associated with the trophies that matters. Just like on Xbox, no retail game can have more than 1000 gamerscore unless DLC's add extra achievements (which I believe are capped at 200 possible points). Trophies work in the same regard. You can only have 1000 points of trophies in a PS3 or 4 game with one little twist. The platinum trophy that is awarded for completing all does not count in the 1000 point limitation.

So to your point, yes there can be an Xbox game with 99 achievements. Each of those achievement would only be worth 10 points, however. The trophy point system works like this:

Bronze - 15pts
Silver - 30pts
Gold - 90pts
Platinum - 180pts

So retail PS3-4 games can offer you a total of 1180-1230 (The plat trophy can push the cap just a bit, but almost all games will not combine for more than 1230 without DLC) points towards your PSN trophy level. I am trying to find the link that confirms all of this (I read it before, but it was a very long time ago) but it is evading me. The scoring conversion rate above is sound though. Go ahead and assign those point values to any of your RETAIL games on your trophy list and they should equal the correct amount. Downloadable (non-retail) games don't work by the same rules, and normally don't have 1000 points worth of trophies.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

Could you provide a link or something? I've never heard of a game company only having so many slots for achievements. I know a few games have 99 achievements.

So FFXIV ARR has 39 Trophies even if there is a limit of 99, That leaves room for a lot.

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I will use Xbox as an example since playstation system a lil too complicated for some people. Any new game is only allowed to have only 1000 points doesn't matter if 100 10 point achievements or 10 100 points acheivments. Arcade game and small dlc are allowed only 250 points. A true expansion like 3.0 would be allowed depending on size 500 pts or a full fledged 1000. PS4 is similar you can't let 1 game have unlimited points or everyone would be max rated on psn.

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Originally Posted by JayCommon

Just like on Xbox, no retail game can have more than 1000 gamerscore unless DLC's add extra achievements.

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Edit take Back what I said Read the Achievement pages wrong.

But I did find that Gears of war 3 was the first game allowed to break 1750 Achievements for a total of 2000 with DLCs. And games are only allowed to have 250GS per quarter one year after launch.

Also found the info about PS retail games cannot have more than 1230 points before Add ons. The only game I could find with the most trophies is Burnout Paradise 98 for a total of 2355 points. Didn't find any info about how many trophies are per quarter, still looking. As for FFXIV they have 1155 trophy score they could play around with.

omg another I have X many trophy e-penis thread

/facepalm

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Originally Posted by Arkista

Games can have more than 1000 GS without DLCs. Fallout 3 has 1550 GS without DLCs and each DLC is 100 GS each

Gears of War 2 has 1750 without DLCs. In fact GoW 2 has a total of 2400 GS with DLCs. Total of 108 Achievements.

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You must be buying the combo cheap packs cuz GoW 2 has 2 dlcs and Fallout 3 have some 2.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

Games can have more than 1000 GS without DLCs. Fallout 3 has 1550 GS without DLCs and each DLC is 100 GS each

Gears of War 2 has 1750 without DLCs. In fact GoW 2 has a total of 2400 GS with DLCs. Total of 108 Achievements.

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One of which is a Microsoft first party game, and the other of which is not even true.

Gears of War 2 had 1250 Gamerscore. http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Gears_of_War/Achievements

Fallout 3 has 1550 Gamerscore WITH DLC. http://twinstickgaming.com/2013/05/0...enjoy-playing/

If you are playing a game for trophies, and you need trophies to give you incentive to keep playing the game, maybe it's time for another game? This is not directed at anyone in particular, by the way. It's just a passing thought.