Probably sound stupid here

But when I was in the Coil, I was told by the MT to use Silence. I don't have Silence in any of my stuff. Is that something I have to do similar to when I got Swiftcast for my WHM as a THM? Thanks for the input.

Blunt arrow

Ah, OK, I was using that. Thanks. I couldn't find anything for an action or trait for Silence as he was calling for other folks to perform actions exactly as they would have been called.

Silence is the effect of Blunt arrow. Only bard, paladin, monk and selene (and scholar by extension) have skills that inflict silence.

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Originally Posted by Zamii

all classes can use silence pots, but thats another thing entirely.

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Skills

The first step to play well a class is to read and comprehend all the skills, my friend ;)

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Originally Posted by Lemon8or

Silence is the effect of Blunt arrow. Only bard, paladin, monk and selene (and scholar by extension) have skills that inflict silence.

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all classes can use silence pots, but thats another thing entirely.

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Originally Posted by LionKing

The first step to play well a class is to read and comprehend all the skills, my friend ;)

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Noted, LionKing. Loved your movie. :D But seriously, folks, I was only wondering if there was a separate "Silence" action of which I should know or learn. Great info, btw.

You should also know that silence's CD is long enough that it's common practice in many fights to "rotate" silences. What this means is that you will use yours, then the PLD will use theirs, then you, etc.

To this end, it is helpful to make a macro that notifies your party when you use it, specifically with a sound effect. Just don't go overboard on it or it might get annoying.

The one I use on PLD is:
/micon "Spirits Within"
/ac "Spirits Within" <t>
/wait .1
/party "Silence used! <se.12>"

Feel free to adjust it for your needs. The wait is important, because you only need to hit it once for both the ability to go off and the message to immediately be sent after.

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Originally Posted by Darske

You should also know that silence's CD is long enough that it's common practice in many fights to "rotate" silences. What this means is that you will use yours, then the PLD will use theirs, then you, etc.

To this end, it is helpful to make a macro that notifies your party when you use it, specifically with a sound effect. Just don't go overboard on it or it might get annoying.

The one I use on PLD is:
/micon "Spirits Within"
/ac "Spirits Within" <t>
/wait .1
/party "Silence used! <se.12>"

Feel free to adjust it for your needs. The wait is important, because you only need to hit it once for both the ability to go off and the message to immediately be sent after.

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wait commands in macros only work by whole seconds, so its not actualy doing anything, secondly, it doesnt matter if it has a wait command or not, chat commands from macro will always be executed, skills on the other hand are a different matter.

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Originally Posted by Zamii

wait commands in macros only work by whole seconds, so its not actualy doing anything, secondly, it doesnt matter if it has a wait command or not, chat commands from macro will always be executed, skills on the other hand are a different matter.

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Not true, my macro like that uses a .5 and works just fine. It might be a minimum .5 though, idk. As for your second part, also not true, spamming that macro as many times as I want it only does the party line 1 time, half a second after I finish spamming.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Not true, my macro like that uses a .5 and works just fine. It might be a minimum .5 though, idk. As for your second part, also not true, spamming that macro as many times as I want it only does the party line 1 time, half a second after I finish spamming.

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No they just use the rounding system.

at .5 it goes to a full second.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Not true, my macro like that uses a .5 and works just fine. It might be a minimum .5 though, idk. As for your second part, also not true, spamming that macro as many times as I want it only does the party line 1 time, half a second after I finish spamming.

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It is true...An easy way to test them out is having someone measure your DPS within a time limit while you use one with macro and one with no macro, you will see the difference in your DPS.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Not true, my macro like that uses a .5 and works just fine. It might be a minimum .5 though, idk.

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not true.

Make the following macro

/echo executing macro test
/wait 1.5
/wait 1.5
/wait 1.5
/wait 1.5
/wait 1.5
/wait 1.5
/wait 1.5
/wait 1.5
/wait 1.5
/wait 1.5
/wait 1.5
/wait 1.5
/wait 1.5
/echo end of cycle, 19.5 seconds should have now passed.

then time it. Trust me you will actually get either 13 seconds (if the .5 doesn't get counted) or the total will be rounded up, resulting in 26 seconds instead. This is an easy test that anyone can do to verify that the Wait Command actually does round up anything with a decimal in it.

Hi,

As far as I remember (not at home now so not entirely sure) you do not have to put /wait between /ac line and /p text command at all to send a notification to your party members. This was you send text in party chat as soon as you use the skill, thus avoiding delay and possible double usage of silence skill.

Regards,
M