Why was the thread on mages being nerfed nuked without any explanation? Last I checked it is not against the rules of the board to be upset with changes.
So are we not allowed to be upset with changes to mages?
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07-22-2011, 09:32 AMLuxLexSo are we not allowed to be upset with changes to mages?
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07-22-2011, 09:34 AMDelsusIts the new IQ rule, if people post retarded comments like you did they get nukedQuote:
Originally Posted by LuxLex
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07-22-2011, 09:35 AMAlegis^ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by Delsus
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07-22-2011, 09:35 AMAlexNiculaie
from what little I was able to see before it went away, it wasn't a bitch thread. It was a Rage Quit thread simply declaring "I quit!" followed by "don't let the door hit you where the Twleve split ya" responses. Not exactly a discussion on what they didn't like.
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07-22-2011, 09:36 AMWynn^This. The thread as a whole was a violation of the forum rules, hence why it was nuked.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie
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07-22-2011, 09:36 AMSuzakuCMX
It wasn't that, but the OP was "I quit >:(" and that's all. Nothing constructive or anything to discuss.
Much like this thread. -
07-22-2011, 09:37 AMVerecund
+10 internets for post #2, redeemable at your local interwebs
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07-22-2011, 09:37 AMDubontbecause you don't have a say in the matter and expressing your distaste over having a BLM and a WHM is irrelevant when those are 2 core jobs of the FF series.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuxLex
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07-22-2011, 09:46 AMdarkstarpoet1in that case you have no right to complain about a single thing that was wrong about the game when it was released.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubont
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07-22-2011, 09:57 AMAyerc
No, you're not allowed to be upset when we haven't even been able to see the changes first hand.
I'm not calling foul until I know for sure it's a foul. -
07-22-2011, 10:02 AMLuxLex
yeah, cause insulting people's intelligence because the classes they like to play have either been
a) nerfed to hell
b) ignored
Is a sign of great intellect, and clearly contributing to the forums. Also the completely inane and meaningless "10char" tag line makes you seem really cool, yo.
As for the person talking about blm and whm, can you show me where they are? Cause all I see is a whm with elemental spells (that no party will ever let them waste mp on) and a seriously gimped lolenfeebler. -
07-22-2011, 10:18 AMDubontTHM didn't get nerfed. THM is the basis for BLM. BLM isn't a main healer, so why should THM be? Also, the jobs are coming 1.20+. Btw, the 10char tag is for the 10 character limit on the forums...Quote:
Originally Posted by LuxLex
If you don't like the IMPROVEMENTS to the game, you are free to leave. You haven't gotten very far anyway so you aren't losing anything at all. -
07-22-2011, 10:20 AMJin_
I would like to say that that thread should not have been bombed either. Despite its /quit OP it was really just a bunch of melee rejoicing that mages are now reduced to cure/passive hoes.
Soloing seems to be pooched, and I am really wondering why I keep clicking on this forum because not many seem to care. Most of the mage haters have no 50's and play boring ass melee.
Fine Emulate had to be nerfed, that was obvious. But someone who only plays a GLA, and cured for hate (lol) really just wants an xi-2, THEY ARENT MAKING XI-2
I want engaging party play too dude, I want enfeebles to land (you referred to Slow and Paralyze as DoT's..........), I want to have single target cures that don't prevent me from having MP unless I'm in leves or behest passive mode running from mob to mob. I wanna pull mobs to a camp and not have to chase them. Running is too much of this damn game.
NM and instance are gonna be boring as FUCK for mages who get stuck with cure role. Don't tell me otherwise when YOU DON'T KNOW, and haven't ranked up CON or THM to late game. I don't and abhor equally ppl who follow the behest/leve group spamming curing and watching TV. Yet, I am still BITCHING about the cure cost (and recast time) of these single target spells.
When I log in, if its as bad as its spelled out, I too will be gone. I have logged in every day since early october. I have had my character since standard edition release. My opinion counts, I played XI for 5+ years, with 7 75s of which all "mages" were included.... except SCH was 37.
You can call me back yoshi when you fix the mp cost, and if that requires mp auto-refresh to be removed or nerfed DO IT. -
07-22-2011, 10:21 AMDubontso...THM isn't OP anymore..and you're butthurt about it...umad?Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1
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07-22-2011, 10:21 AMJin_
THM can't be BLM when CON has the elemental nukes.................. and lolAM
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07-22-2011, 10:24 AMDubont1 job per class...BLM and WHM are confirmed...unless they introduce new classes, which is possible, THM will be the basis for BLM. If it isn't obvious for you, CON is obviously the WHM (look at the recent skill implementations). So, if CON is the WHM, and THM is the only other mage, who's going to be BLM? THM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jin_
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07-22-2011, 10:25 AMJin_
regardless, im not butthurt THM can't solo NMs anymore, or until kaeko shows the new way if possible
im butthurt at mp cost
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07-22-2011, 10:26 AMDubont
I can't believe people are seriously thinking of quitting the game because THM is no longer OP when the rest of the patch is completely golden...some people..I swear...you just can never be happy..
edit: yeah, the MP cost is quite a lot...but that just means we have to manage our MP better... = no more easy mode. -
07-22-2011, 10:27 AMElkwoodIt was nuked because it was a thread complaining as usual, Evangela started with I Quit, my thaumaturge topic was not nerfed.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuxLex
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07-22-2011, 10:27 AMJin_
when did i say 'cuz thm is not OP? learn to read
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07-22-2011, 10:35 AMDubontexcuse me? Don't start with insults like that, kiddie. If you haven't noticed, maybe you should learn how to comprehend better, that post was aimed at EVERYONE who is QQing, not just you. Don't flatter yourself, you aren't that important.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jin_
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07-22-2011, 10:37 AMBalbanesBecause it turned into a whine/flamefest?Quote:
Originally Posted by LuxLex
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07-22-2011, 10:40 AMJin_
kiddie, insults
pot, kettle
most ppl are bitching about cure costs as well
THM's OP was obviously going to get nerfed........ so act tough some more -
07-22-2011, 10:43 AMDubontfrom what I see, MOST people are complaining because THM is now a "gimp" class...since it isn't OP anymore...that's what I'm seeing. A few people are complaining about MP costs, but the majority are QQing about THM not being the best class in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jin_
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07-22-2011, 10:45 AMJin_
well that's probably because thm also lost aoe cure completely, and with the effectiveness of enfeebles being so shitty, ya, now that emulate is broken and no aoe cure..... thm is beat like rodney king with the nerf bat, beyond helplessness
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07-22-2011, 10:45 AMAbriaelNo, it's just brainlessly silly to be upset with THIS change.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuxLex
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07-22-2011, 10:47 AMDubontDebuffs and DoTs are very effective on NMs and, I assume, will have a huge impact on the party play now with the new battle system...THM isn't useless...those that say it is are obviously just 11111spam derps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jin_
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07-22-2011, 10:49 AMzaviermhigo
There really isn't anything constructive to say about nerfing a class and then making another class OP. Thats not balance thats just switching THM and CONJ so that now CONJ is op. Every ability from 1-50 on thm, an conj can equip, but curaga (curega wtf is that), and new raises are exclusive. SO for now it, until they add exclusive thm abilties which cannot be cross classed, then it just seems like thm got overly gimped into only being useful for endgame.
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07-22-2011, 10:56 AMDubontbut CON isn't OP because CON still can't tank mobs...CON has terrible nuke dmg...and most of CON's abilities are just garbage >.> Giving CON a few high cost exclusive skills does not make it OP...Quote:
Originally Posted by zaviermhigo
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07-22-2011, 11:01 AMSorelOK. But that would mean the BLMs (i.e. Thaumaturges) won't be the best at casting Ancient Magic like Flare and Flood because they would have less affinity with the spell than WHMs (i.e. Conjurers).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubont
WHMs being better at elemental magic than BLMs?? That's what it's shaping up to be if your logic holds true. I'm not saying that your wrong ... but it would weird. -
07-22-2011, 11:09 AMDubontOnce you utilize a job, it will (I assume) lock out certain skills while giving you access to others. So, on CON, since it is WHM, it will lock out the elemental spells and on THM, when you activate BLM, it will probably activate the elemental spells as BLM will have it's own affinity. See?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorel
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07-22-2011, 11:12 AMindira
they balance out the mages then more trolling @_@
good you cant have a endless supply of magic now, manage your resources.
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07-22-2011, 11:22 AMSorelSo if I exclusively leveled THM to 30 to unlock BLM, you're saying that after that I will need to level CON to 44 so that my BLM can cast ancient elemental magic? Doesn't that seem a bit disconnected to you??Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubont
But I honestly wouldn't put it pass SE. These are the same guys that released the Summoner job for FFXI, and said you need to take SMN to 60 before you get the privilege of summoning an avatar other than Carbuncle. Their sadistic like that sometimes. :p -
07-22-2011, 11:28 AMJin_
so THM being BLM will give you CON spells, gotcha
both mages will suck imo, its not mp management, its use of passive mode BOOOOOOORING