PvP Tanks Rreally need an ability that takes hate from another player because right now we have equipment that increases vitality but it is currently useless because everyone saves the tank till last. Combo'd attacks such as rage of halone/savage blade do not recieve a benefit because threat is useless in PvP, and therefore other classes utilize their fullest potential. This is especially bad in a paladins case in PvP since most of their abilities are defensive and the fact paladins have few abilities to close the gap between other players compared to any other class. Give Paladins a pvp charge ability and tanks overall the ability to utilize their full potential by utilizing a threat mechanic maybe similar to what the paladin in good king moggle mog does.
PvP Tanks
Printable View
-
05-24-2014, 02:08 AMGeneraleonviiPvP Tanks
-
05-24-2014, 03:41 AMDarwin_Twiceborn
PvP tanks are called healers, sadly.
-
05-24-2014, 04:45 AMMeeep
-
05-24-2014, 05:15 AMbbt
Paladin is actually fortunate in that almost all of its skill set (Cover, Hallowed Ground) has uses in the arena. Warrior is the unfortunate one where nothing beyond Inner Beast/Infuriate burst is worthwhile.
The changes I would like to see implemented are with Flash/Overpower and Provoke, or even a combo point system that stacks with each enmity-increasing rotation and can be dispensed with the former to force target on the tank for a limited time. This would give reason for tanks to stack VIT, sit in Defiance/Shield Oath and shift the meta from rushing down healers/priority DPS to having to deal with the enemy team's tank before they could engage the weaker targets.
Just something like Flash/Overpower and Provoke with diminishing returns on the targeting retention would do wonders in fixing our misappropriated role. -
05-24-2014, 05:34 AMRawk
Tanks are stun-lock beasts who can, at worst, take on anyone 1v1 and at best take on 1v3.
If they give tanks a stun-lock nerf then sure introduce forced swapping when provoked. Otherwise, I say leave them alone. -
05-24-2014, 05:45 AMrappa
Change your vitality jewelry and use strength ones
-
05-24-2014, 12:44 PMSoundersIf you're talking about Moggle EX, I don't think it's a good idea. The competition will become another fastest finger contest. People are already complaining about the sleep by BLM/WHM. If we add another "who casts confuse on PLD first, wins the game", I have a feeling a lot of people will hate PVP even more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Generaleonvii
-
05-24-2014, 04:36 PMish007xx
did this guy really type tanks need an ability to get hate on players LMAO................
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kIMtbeUqMy...64-d3kuyp3.png -
05-24-2014, 04:38 PMYumi_umi
I wished they give tanks the ability to taunt ppl into attacking them but the trade off is that the tank will be immobilized . Like when you get brainjacked, hypnotized by siren.
Put in on a long cool down like other skills and make it so that it upgrades into longer taunt duration, less damaged recieved when hit by others during taunt's activation, longer taunt range?
You can't spell tank without the ank in spank! -
05-24-2014, 04:58 PMMiriliIt isn't unheard of to have "taunt" abilities to force someone to only target you. And it's a completely reasonable request, given the current "ignore the tank 'til everything else is dead" strategy. Ellipses.Quote:
Originally Posted by ish007xx
Edit: "compeltly"? Did you throw that picture together yourself?
Edit 2: Just got the joke.
Your picture is still dumb. -
05-24-2014, 05:35 PMEdenlys
I can't imagine real tank (called casters) free in this game...
-
05-25-2014, 12:44 PMPurrfectstorm
I play MRD with all the DPS abilities but I don't usually start out by chasing down the other team's healer. I let the real DPS do that. I usually hang back to protect our team's healer with holmgang or stuns. You don't really need to have an ability to force the other team to attack you. You can disrupt them enough so they have to pay attention to you. I'm not an expert PvPer of course but this strategy has been working really really well for me so far.
-
05-25-2014, 07:16 PMish007xxlol when i play with my friend we always rush the tank 1st, why u may ask its cause they never expect to get rushed and get their shit pushed in, its funny to see mrd use homgang on me for me to backflip then kill them lol. Theres alot of different ways to deal with different players and playstyle just takes alot of pvping to see how peoople playQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirili
-
05-25-2014, 08:27 PMKassiekane
PLD kinda leans in that direction, but its not enough.
It would be pretty interesting to see things like provoke, flash, overpower, defiance/shield oath, and even quelling strikes to have some kind of use in PvP. But oh well, let the 6-7k HP healers take on the role of tanks.
That doesn't work when the enemy healer isn't stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by ish007xx
-
05-26-2014, 12:29 PMPots_Talos
I wouldn't mind provoke making the other player auto target you with no duration. They can just tab away from you if they notice fast enough, then provoke would just be kind of like a small interrupt.
-
05-27-2014, 09:33 AMJim_Berry
As a healer, I always die first. Even if I stick with the tank or the powerful dps.
I managed to get the opposing team's healer slept for the first time, but their PLD and DRG stun-locked me after that.
Not to mention a BRD binding me, causing me to not be able to heal members behind me. -
05-28-2014, 02:13 AMMattiux
Instead of a system of hate, that would be complicated, you could make the tank a real controller by replacing the skill of damage with binding skill or petrifying skill of short duration like the trash in T1 or CT. Right now only Testudo allow a tank on help the party.
p.s: sorry for the bad english :P -
05-28-2014, 03:42 AMLogooi no more CC please :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mattiux