Might want to reconsider the female moogle name, Fern...

I saw that Fern posted the naming conventions of the beast tribes. One thing that stuck out for the naming conventions for female moogles with their name with the example of Pukla Puki. Puki in Tagalog (Filipino language) translates to the female genitalia. Might what to reconsider naming a female moogle that!

That's just my two cents, though. I thought I would have liked to mention that seeing as we users can't post on the thread he made, so I just wanted to put that out there.

On the other hand, it does sound similar to a lot of other moogle names we've seen. It's perhaps inevitable that a name here or there might be dirty in one language or another.

It doesn't help that Pukla Puki the Pomburner is an existing moogle, the BLM during the Moogle fight.

Yeaaahhh I dunno if that's ever really something that can be truly avoided. I mean, you can /point in the game, and in some cultures, pointing with one finger is considered very rude.

If people are going to get offended, let them. If people are going to let their culture or language get in the way of their gaming, let them. They won't be able to appreciate the story and world and lore around them, so it would be their loss. /shrug

Also, another thing of note, is that the game is not translated to Tagalog, nor is it sold in the Philippines by SE. As far as SE is aware or concerned, no one in that country is being marketed to or sold their product, so unfortunately, SE can't really be expected to cater to a demographic that they aren't attempting to market to. If they did, however, they would probably have their absolutely baller localization team come up with appropriate names and conventions that would suit the Tagalog language.

So I wouldn't worry too much about this sort of thing.

At a certain point, you have to accept that with the hundreds of spoken languages in existence, you are eventually going to name someone genitalia in another language. Heck, English speaking people name their kids after slang for genitalia.

This is a really silly complaint, and I'm fairly certain you know that.

Exactly, and even English itself falls into this trap, given there are many different regional vernaculars with many different meanings on the same word (for a FF, but not FFXIV, example, back when I first played FFIX, during the Festival of the Hunt, I couldn't help but giggle when I saw Steiner's line where he says to Vivi "The princess and I are rooting for you!" - in Australia, the verb 'root' is a slang/informal term meaning 'to have sex', and thus, the unfortunate implications. Naturally I immediately realized it was the American meaning, which is to cheer on or support someone.). So hence it's kind of impossible to allow for all possibilities of quirks of language when translating for the game.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

...I couldn't help but giggle when I saw Steiner's line where he says to Vivi "The princess and I are rooting for you!" - in Australia, the verb 'root' is a slang/informal term meaning 'to have sex', and thus, the unfortunate implications....

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I am so glad I am not the only Aussie that giggled at that line, too! Yes, yes, we're totally mature :)

Throwing my hat in with "This is going to inevitably happen a lot. We should just giggle and move on."

I know a few Spanish speakers that giggle every time they switch to leatherworker.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

Puki in Tagalog (Filipino language) translates to the female genitalia. Might what to reconsider naming a female moogle that!

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I think it's better than naming her after male genitalia.

This isn't a complaint, I was just pointing it out. I found it odd to name a female moogle that name, that's all.

except this happens all the time in some random language with some random word, and it's a pointless nitpick.

doesn't matter if Puki in Tagalog means female genitalia or devourer of babies, because its NOT in Tagalog. It's in Moogle, and the meaning in any other language is irrelevant.

I wouldn't call it odd, but merely a coincidence.

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At a certain point, you have to accept that with the hundreds of spoken languages in existence, you are eventually going to name someone genitalia in another language. Heck, English speaking people name their kids after slang for genitalia.

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^this.

This is actually a really good topic, as it comes up a lot internally every patch when we introduce new names.

While, like a lot of you have already mentioned, it is impossible to avoid similarities considering the thousands of existing (and extinct) languages on Earth, but we do try to steer clear of things that will come off as offensive in our four main service languages (Japanese, English, French, and German).

This stems from way back in the FFXI days when we introduced a goblin named Fickblix. Needless to say, some of the people at Square Enix's European offices were not that pleased ('fick' being German word for...well, you can probably figure it out), and led to us working out a new system that saw names (that were to be common across all languages, and not translated) go through an approval process by at least one representative from each of our main service languages.

I do apologize, however, if anyone was offended by the Pomburner's unfortunate moniker. It was completely unintentional (if not a tad bit hilarious). Bad Moogle! Bad! Moogle!

I'm just gonna say that combining her actual name's unintended meaning with a double entendre of her nickname leads to amusing results.

There are people in America named Dick Johnson and Harry Wang. Everything is a curse word in some language.

Not gonna lie, I would have remained blissfully ignorant of this had it not been pointed out. :P

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Originally Posted by axemtitanium

There are people in America named Dick Johnson and Harry Wang. Everything is a curse word in some language.

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The priest who did my parents' wedding was German and his name is Fermis Dick.

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

It was completely unintentional (if not a tad bit hilarious). Bad Moogle! Bad! Moogle!

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LOL'd so hard at this.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

I saw that Fern posted the naming conventions of the beast tribes. One thing that stuck out for the naming conventions for female moogles with their name with the example of Pukla Puki. Puki in Tagalog (Filipino language) translates to the female genitalia. Might what to reconsider naming a female moogle that!

That's just my two cents, though. I thought I would have liked to mention that seeing as we users can't post on the thread he made, so I just wanted to put that out there.

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There are a lot of words ingame that are suggestive in other languages. Like "Pinga", the leatherworking tool, is slang in Spanish for the male part. I was a bit surprised when I saw it but its nothing to get worked up over. I'm sure its not intentional.

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Originally Posted by Vilhem

There are a lot of words ingame that are suggestive in other languages. Like "Pinga", the leatherworking tool, is slang in Spanish for the male part. I was a bit surprised when I saw it but its nothing to get worked up over. I'm sure its not intentional.

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Considering that the rest of the level 50 quest tools are named after gods or mythological beings, I suspect that Pinga is named after the Inuit goddess of the hunt.

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

This is actually a really good topic, as it comes up a lot internally every patch when we introduce new names.

While, like a lot of you have already mentioned, it is impossible to avoid similarities considering the thousands of existing (and extinct) languages on Earth, but we do try to steer clear of things that will come off as offensive in our four main service languages (Japanese, English, French, and German).

This stems from way back in the FFXI days when we introduced a goblin named Fickblix. Needless to say, some of the people at Square Enix's European offices were not that pleased ('fick' being German word for...well, you can probably figure it out), and led to us working out a new system that saw names (that were to be common across all languages, and not translated) go through an approval process by at least one representative from each of our main service languages.

I do apologize, however, if anyone was offended by the Pomburner's unfortunate moniker. It was completely unintentional (if not a tad bit hilarious). Bad Moogle! Bad! Moogle!

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As you said itself, SE supports 4 main languages.
I don't think it's a problem if some name appears to be something else in a language you don't support. It's funny? Yes.But oh well, when you start supporting tangalog, you think about that problem.

I doubt SE would support tangalog btw, it's too specific (and I think French and German ARE too specific too).
I bet they would do something broader, like spanish and portuguese.