Don't you like it...

When it's the third Duty Roulette you get. Third time in a row you get Lost City which you like because it's an amazing dungeon then everybody leaves and you have 20 mins queues because you are a DPS.

I don't think the queue penalty is strong enough.

I've been trying to get sold tomes with Duty Roulette and I can't for the past hour and half.

Lost city of ampador? Ick sleepy music...m u s t throw headset behind PC or Zzzzzzz

sorry I have allergies and I can't take a step in there without sneezing.

That's strange. In Tonberry server I've never had that issue. All the JPs stay, and i only had 1 EN tank that left halfway because Odin popped.

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

When it's the third Duty Roulette you get. Third time in a row you get Lost City which you like because it's an amazing dungeon then everybody leaves and you have 20 mins queues because you are a DPS.

I don't think the queue penalty is strong enough.

I've been trying to get sold tomes with Duty Roulette and I can't for the past hour and half.

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Weird I always get brayflox hm.

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Originally Posted by Radkat

That's strange. In Tonberry server I've never had that issue. All the JPs stay, and i only had 1 EN tank that left halfway because Odin popped.

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DF isn't server specific.

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

I don't think the queue penalty is strong enough.

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There is no que penalty, if you leave right at the start XD
Working as intended ^.~!

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

DF isn't server specific.

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It's data center specific though.
Just saying.

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That's strange. In Tonberry server I've never had that issue. All the JPs stay, and i only had 1 EN tank that left halfway because Odin popped.

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Yeah, we're lucky on the Tonberry server/datacentre. Try giving the English only queue a go and you'll come across way more problems. Although I avoid Expert roulette for the most part (i'm working on Books and my Soldiery cap by themselves) it's generally pretty good, the worst you come across is people not really knowing how to deal with doors in Ampador, or very fresh players who are barely over the iLvl requirement. Generally problems can be ironed out with no fuss though.

Masamune's data center also never have any problems from people leaving the roulette. Most will try to at least complete it as much as we can multiple times or until vote abandon is available lol. I only ever have 1 person leaving the expert roulette after the 2nd boss in brayflox HM and I've ran that at least 300 times by now through roulette, solo queue and speed runs.

Ya.. Masamune is with a server cluster that ppl rarely leave if they see it is a dungeon they don;t want.

I only came across less then 10 since start of 2.0. Quite amazing.

Now... if only there are less JP ONLY in PF..

It's a bit underhanded, but I've had some luck saying "Please don't leave, I need this for my atma book" right at the start of a dungeon.

I've gotten Lost City EVERY single time on Expert roulette. It's pretty annoying.

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I've gotten Lost City EVERY single time on Expert roulette. It's pretty annoying.

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It's in at least 2 books for every Animus, that's why.

I know a way to stop people from leaving.

Lock the leave button until you beat the first two bosses, though if you leave after the first two bosses, your armor fully breaks.

Harsh but hey you'd see less people leaving a lot.

I've largely been getting Lost City on my Ex roulette, and it varies. Either the tank or healer, or even surprisingly sometimes a dps will leave when it starts. That or the group stays and goes through it. I had an amazingly smooth Lost City run this morning, best one I've ever had yet.

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Originally Posted by HeroSamson

I know a way to stop people from leaving.

Lock the leave button until you beat the first two bosses, though if you leave after the first two bosses, your armor fully breaks.

Harsh but hey you'd see less people leaving a lot.

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"Well, you guys suck, so I'm just going to afk at the entrance. Have fun waiting 80 minutes for the timer to run out!"

Yeah, the type of trolling this would enable is not worth the payoff.

This obsession with "efficiency" is going to prematurely kill this game like it did XI. Are people here so jaded that they'll step on people's toes in any way possible as long as they get their Animus Weapon in 7-10 days?

Maybe SE should consider putting these folks in a separate server (maybe call it the BlueGartr server after that odious forum) so the other servers can recover from the toxicity.

I'm on JP server i've had tanks and healers leave at start the start of dungeon too. If its an expert roulette i know they are only going to do the first two boss before they kick (me or someone) or vote abandon. Maybe i have bad luck i don't know:confused:

I've mostly been ending up in Halatali for a week on expert roulette. D:

I always run my healer for expert roulette for near instant queues.

Healer isn't my main.

Also useful for Brayflox speed runs when the other dps slots are full.

I blame everyone but the tank. Every time I queue roulette as a tank and get township, as soon as we hit diabolos, everybody just stands still until I have to ask who's going to be on door duties. I didnt ask at the start because I usually have the intention of finishing anyway. But yeah, nobody wants to do it and I dont know why and it's actually making me get irked whenever I get the dungeon. On the other hand, whenever I queue as a dps and get township, I offer to do it straight away and there's no problems. I even get tripple commendations just for doing it sometimes.

I just don't que up for Roulettes. I can get all my soldiery just from queing specifically for Brayflox or Halatali like..ten times or so. That's it. I personally would rather drop out of Lost City if i DID do a roulette, because the mechanics are fun with an FX group.. not so much with a bunch of pugs.

So specific Queing I go, and i leave Lost City alone entirely.

Yesterday, the tank leave right at the beginning of Lost City ...
Me as a Scholar, a monk and a dragoon (who will tank) decided to try without tank while waiting for one to pop.
We ended up finishing the dungeon with only the 3 of us.
What I learned :
- some drg players are absolutely awesome.
- Lost City is easy enough to finish with only 3 guys, people who leave right at the beginning are pussies.
- a little message to that tank :
https://warosu.org/data/cgl/img/0067...6145893997.jpg
Can't remember his name though :o

Why would anyone leave this dungeon O_o? its easy as hell and the boss fights are easy and fun

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Originally Posted by AiChyan

Why would anyone leave this dungeon O_o? its easy as hell and the boss fights are easy and fun

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Because Diabolos requires actual effort and communication to do. Something lacking for the most part in DF.

People have two problems with this dungeon. First of all, it can take a tad longer than Brayflox but from my experience so far, there are more than enough people who are afraid of the doors at the last boss that the mechanics will cause a wipe. First thing I do when I see it is Ampador in Roulette is to say "i care for all the doors at end boss". Works wonders and people stay more often.

But all in all, the Animus chase has brought out the worst in people. Two things must happen: some people must change their mindset and stop using DF for myth runs where they know they will either leave after second boss or leave instantly when it is not the Dungeon they look for. Additionally, SE must close the escape method too many people abuse. Disallow leaving without penalty if it is done quickly enough before everybody has finished their cutscene. This is a design flaw the "clever" players abuse without end. I hope 2.28 brings some relief and solutions to the actual leaving trend. Sad we need SE anyways, how people can be so egoistic and choosy but still want max reward is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45

Because Diabolos requires actual effort and communication to do. Something lacking for the most part in DF.

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Not really. One person can do everything. There's never a reason to mark doors. If you can't remember all of the matches, then you can just open them during the fight.

I frequently get halatali which I dont mind, just wish drg coat dropped.

I hate Lost City in a pug, but got a great one last night - we were all so overgeared we zerged Diabolos and didn't even touch the doors =P
Usually (ime) two people both try to mark at the same time which results in chaos, or one person says they'll do it and don't, or I'm forced to do it which confuses me xD

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

"Well, you guys suck, so I'm just going to afk at the entrance. Have fun waiting 80 minutes for the timer to run out!"

Yeah, the type of trolling this would enable is not worth the payoff.

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easy then add 5 minutes after they've been kicked so they cant re-enter the battle and go afk again.

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Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45

Because Diabolos requires actual effort and communication to do. Something lacking for the most part in DF.

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its more petty, everyone wants to SR brayflox.