Gear over looks

I know plenty of gear VS looks discussions have been made but seriously it's the only issue I have with FFXIV and which imo can hinder the game from new customers.

I know you can't please everyone, this is a fact but what made FF...FF in the last 20 years? Really stylized looks, in the year 2000 I would be content with dull knight armor, not in 2014.

Yoshida, I love the game but this is a strong area that needs improvement in my opinion.

For the record I know it's a technical/graphical issue with how gear adapts to the bodies in the game but you can solve those issues, plenty of games have. You can find some middleground where I don't feel like I'm playing Runescape or something like that.

there be trolls afoot!

sounds like a troll thread seeing as u can glamour gear at 50 to make it look however u like and then u can dye it as well.

Once you hit 50 with a class you can do a quest to unlock the glamour system.
One of the things you can look forward while you level up your first class.

See, this is where the game could do a better job. Yes I could've done some research about changing level 50 gear to look however I wanted but this is not common knowledge to anyone new to the game. As you see I started this month, barely a week into the game.

I believe that instead of calling people trolls it's a better undertaking to inform them of what they potentially don't know.

This is still an area of improvement because you can lose players this way. Appeal goes far beyond what most people realize. While it might not apply to you individually, it does to many others. Access to the "glamour" system should be added earlier in the game's story.

Thanks! You're my kind of people Felis. Will make me look forward to finishing the game even more. Definitely love the game, wish this glamour system was at least explained earlier in the game so people don't lose interest before then.

A lot of people commented when it was released that it was odd making it only available when you hit 50. But you change gear so regularly till you hit 50 I can see not many people wanting to glamour till then anyway. As you said you are only a week into the game and already 34

Yeah, the Glamour System is great, though I do wish lower-level players had access to it. No real reason why that can't happen.

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Originally Posted by Ghastly

This is still an area of improvement because you can lose players this way.

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You actually had my attention until this comment, then you blew it. While it does suck to have to wait till 50 to access the glamour system, it doesn't take too long to get there, anyway. By that point you should have some gear collected from your adventure to use.

He is still not completely wrong. Glamour is great but I'd love more options in whm gear instead of another variation of the pope look. Pvp gear is excellent in this reagard - the new swan set is a breath of fresh air and looks insanely cool. On the other hand, myth gear and AF look almost the same, and from royal to soldiery, to some of the hm dungeon drops*look alike.

Glamour is a double-edged sword, though. For everyone making a cool-looking set, there's five people who transform everything they wear into bikinis or the "omg you can see panties!" WHMshorts. I like the "jungle Amazon" set I made for my PLD, but there are often times I regret the glamour system...

And then there's the Roe-man on my server who wears a cone hat (sugarloaf, i think?), subligar, and then dyes everything coral pink. Yeeeargh....

So if I read this correctly, when you get the Glamour quest at 50 and complete it, that ability is unlocked for all the other classes too right? Or is this an character specific type thing like Chocobos?

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Originally Posted by EternityInBlack

So if I read this correctly, when you get the Glamour quest at 50 and complete it, that ability is unlocked for all the other classes too right? Or is this an character specific type thing like Chocobos?

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It is unlocked for all other classes on a single character yes, much like your Grand Company Chocobo. If you wanted to do all of this on another character though...well, your current char=/=another.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

Glamour is a double-edged sword, though. For everyone making a cool-looking set, there's five people who transform everything they wear into bikinis or the "omg you can see panties!" WHMshorts. I like the "jungle Amazon" set I made for my PLD, but there are often times I regret the glamour system...

And then there's the Roe-man on my server who wears a cone hat (sugarloaf, i think?), subligar, and then dyes everything coral pink. Yeeeargh....

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It's not a double-edge sword when you put it this way because it gives people a good bit of freedom to do what they want...with a few restrictions, of course.

All DoM gear looks terrible. Nothing I would ever want to wear in real life.
Glamour does not help.
Luckily there was the Lightning event with the gear.

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Originally Posted by ItzKris

All DoM gear looks terrible. Nothing I would ever want to wear in real life.
Glamour does not help.
Luckily there was the Lightning event with the gear.

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Oh please
Do you really mean this look terrible?

http://i.imgur.com/Wsez1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Felis

Oh please
Do you really mean this look terrible?

http://i.imgur.com/Wsez1.jpg

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Correction all DoM gear looks terrible on males.

The glamour system is a bandaid over a shotgun wound. The game's clothing and armors simply suck.

Respectfully, I disagree. I think there are a lot of really good pieces of armor out there! Sure, there's a lot of generic designs at lower levels from vendors (But really, that just makes sense), but there are a bunch more out there that look really good! However, what I have found is most of the best-looking gear drops from specific dungeons. Sastasha,Tam-Tara Deepcroft, Copperbell Mines, Brayflox's Longstop, Dzemael Darkhold, Labyrinth of the Ancients, and all of the new dungeons since 2.1 have some really nice looking pieces of armor. Looking for a cool weapon? Stone Vigil seems to drop some of the classiest-looking weapons in the game, I think.

Also, with the 2.2 patch, crafters have gotten a lot of cool pieces to craft too, such as the dresses, the Sailor set, and others.

The game is still less then a year old, but I wager that, especially with Gold Saucer looming on the Horizon, we'll get a lot more interesting-looking sets as time goes on.

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

Stone Vigil seems to drop some of the classiest-looking weapons in the game, I think.

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dat sword! dat bow!

y u no drop for meeeeee!!!

Personally I like a lot of the sets other people think are boring. They are realistic and based on actual things people would wear in battle. Starting at low levels you should have some very basic 'boring' looks and as you progress through the game and encounter more and more impressive designs you should be collecting pieces you like and using them to glamour over things you don't.

I would disagree with the whole 'have to be 50 to glamour' thing except that getting the first job to 50 is laughably easy.

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Originally Posted by ItzKris

Correction all DoM gear looks terrible on males.

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You, sir, are not wrong.

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

You, sir, are not wrong.

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I don't know, I love my little jester look. =)
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2zi21p0.jpg

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Originally Posted by ItzKris

Correction all DoM gear looks terrible on males.

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Cashmere robe of healing...? (though sadly i dont think you can use that template for DD casters.

I don't like the glamour system so much. Maybe it's because I've encountered a MUCH MUCH MUCH better system, in LOTRO.
There, you basically have a "layer" of equipment you put over your equipped gear, which is the gear that appears on your character. Then you don't need to bother when you upgrade your gear, you will always look like what's on your outfit layer.

Seems like the glamour system is based off the transmogrifying system from WoW, which was something I criticized a lot at the time. Why put the "skin" equipment on THE PARTICULAR PIECE OF GEAR, when you can put it in yourself? =\

Battlemage from Brayflox NM looks awesome on everything but Lalas. My SCH uses it as glamour. Male Hyur.

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Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark

I don't like the glamour system so much. Maybe it's because I've encountered a MUCH MUCH MUCH better system, in LOTRO.
There, you basically have a "layer" of equipment you put over your equipped gear, which is the gear that appears on your character. Then you don't need to bother when you upgrade your gear, you will always look like what's on your outfit layer.

Seems like the glamour system is based off the transmogrifying system from WoW, which was something I criticized a lot at the time. Why put the "skin" equipment on THE PARTICULAR PIECE OF GEAR, when you can put it in yourself? =\

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RIFT had the best vanity system that I know of, and it was stupid simple. Put a piece of armor in a vanity tab and bam, different look. XIV's is...different, but it has it's pros as well as cons.

Needs more vanity options, current ones are getting boring, mostly just re-skins.

OP has a point though. Glamour system is great, but we have so so few options to glamour to. Gear in general does not stand out.

Some people could care less about their looks. I for one like to go out there and try all kinds of stuff. You often end up with something quite a few people use due to limited options.

When crafters can craft gear pieces (no stats, just amazing looking gear), it's good for the glamour system and for crafters! People will buy stuff that looks good, we like the glamour feature.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

RIFT had the best vanity system that I know of, and it was stupid simple. Put a piece of armor in a vanity tab and bam, different look. XIV's is...different, but it has it's pros as well as cons.

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I'd say the best vanity system is in DCUO. I absolutely loved that about DCUO; pretty much the only thing I loved about DCUO.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

RIFT had the best vanity system that I know of, and it was stupid simple. Put a piece of armor in a vanity tab and bam, different look. XIV's is...different, but it has it's pros as well as cons.

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Admittedly, I may be mistaken but I'm almost positive EQ2 had that style of system in place before Rift.

That said, there's absolutely no sane reason to require a level 50 for access to the glamour system and I would personally love it if the class restrictions were removed from projecting followed by being able to dye all types of gear.

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Originally Posted by Enepttastic

Admittedly, I may be mistaken but I'm almost positive EQ2 had that style of system in place before Rift.

That said, there's absolutely no sane reason to require a level 50 for access to the glamour system and I would personally love it if the class restrictions were removed from projecting followed by being able to dye all types of gear.

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Yes, EQ2 had the exact same vanity system. They called it the Appearance Tab. It was originally available to you once you hit level 20, but they eventually made it available for brand new level 1 characters. Honestly, I wish that XIV's developers had gone with this system (Blizzard, too, in regards to WoW) but... server limitations and we get the Glamour System instead. C'est la vie. *sigh*

Also, I happen to like the appearance of some of the DoM gear on my male characters.

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

Yeah, the Glamour System is great, though I do wish lower-level players had access to it. No real reason why that can't happen.

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I'd say because the cooler looking gear is higher levels, plus you need the glamour crystal for x job to get it done. You'd have time to collect gil and all just before you can up and glamour.

It's silly but y'know the majority of this game has really crappy gear till 50, even then as a SCH/healer I still look like crap.
Look like a damn Princess Zebra in my CT gear. The Daylight star whichamallcity looks like I'm the Pope. It's kinda bad man. The rest doesn't look bad.
Feel like they just super lazy till 50, you get rehased cult looking hemp subligars all day.