Trouble taking down Ilfrit

For a little while now, I've trying to help take down Ilfrit in the Lord of the Inferno dungeon (throwing all I can at it). I have the most recent clothing and other items on my character. Even with all of it fulled mended, I have a feeling I may still be knocked out. I have tried keeping a good distance anyway.
I have seen one or two youtube vids, so I know what I was trying to do.

Do I need to take up Conjurer or something, along with the primary Arcanist skill? Would that help?

If you can't beat Ifrit...scare him.

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*Serious modo, on*

And I'm just gonna assume you're doing baby Ifrit, since it says your arcanist is lv21, and that appears to be your only class you currently have. You need a 4 man party, consisting of a tank, 2 dps, and a healer. The fight itself is pretty easy, just dodge aoes that spawn below your feet by moving out of them, and kill the nail. Killing the nail is a must. If the nail isn't taken down, the fight itself is a guaranteed fail, every time. The rest, falls on the rest of your party to do their job. Tank tanks Ifrit, healer heals and dodges plumes/eruptions(AOE damage), dps do damage and dodge plumes/eruptions(AOE damage) and dps down the nail. If one person isn't doing any of these things, then that may be the reason to your constant failures.

Well, I have 3 other classes, none of which are high enough as archanist.

However, I do help as much as possible with bringing the nail down, but despite that, it would be already too late, as Ilfrits most powerful attack is made.

I will continue until I get it right and no one else drops out.

Ifrit's basically got two things to look out for.

1. THE NAIL >:O. As soon as it arrives both DPS should be on it like a fly on poop. If you're doing that, you're doing what you ought to be. If it's not coming down in time, one or both of the DPS have a discrepancy in their DPS-ness. If your stats are where they should be, this isn't on you. If your gear is up to date, this isn't on you.

2. Woops~

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However, I do help as much as possible with bringing the nail down, but despite that, it would be already too late, as Ilfrits most powerful attack is made.

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Are you casting your DoTs on the nail and ordering Emerald Carbuncle to attack it aswell? I mean, some new arcanists tend to think Bio and Miasma are not powerful enough compared to bigger numbers coming from Ruin (which is plainly wrong) and forget to change Carbuncle's target from Ifrit to the nail, leaving it with Ifrit and casting just Ruin on the nail.
If you're keeping DoTs up on the nail (and Emerald Carbuncle attacking it aswell) while casting Ruin, the issue does not rely on you but on the rest of the party members you've been playing with instead.
/cheer

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2. Getting knocked off the edge. If you're getting lag at all, this is a pain in the backside, but a good rule of thumb is that if you can't avoid it perpendicular, as a last ditch run at Ifrit instead. This helps. It doesn't always work (read: not very often) but at least you've tried not to go overboard.

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What? Seems you're referring to Titan...

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Originally Posted by Umo

What? Seems you're referring to Titan...

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Uhg. Last time I post when I'm dead tired. Ignore 2.

Destroy the nail(s).

Wear your best armor; HQ if possible. If you are talking about the Ifrit with a party just get those nails. If you are talking about the Ifrit avatar that floats around following Summoner then get the nail AND if you fail repeat it over and over without leaving the zone and the difficulty will auto reduce per number of tries (idk the ratio). Good luck.

Finally, I managed to do it, and with the help of youtube :) I did the Miasma spell when Ilfit did its powerful attack, following the removal of the nail thing. Now on the next stage of the game.

Nice one! :)

Just re did this as glad lvl 20 after completing it many times with my mar/ war. Got told to learn how to tank and trash by some dick who then proceeded to leave before I could respond. The first fight try i just couldnt seem to hold the hate, it kept getting pulled off me, second try I built aggro straight away and held it until the nail showed up and no one seemed bothered to target it so I thought I would. Flash doesn't seem to work on Ilfrit and being lvl 20, I only have some basic moves, none of which seem to build aggro like overpower or provoke. What was I supposed to do. I hate that you can't send tells once the instance is over

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Just re did this as glad lvl 20 after completing it many times with my mar/ war. Got told to learn how to tank and trash by some dick called ---------- who then proceeded to leave before I could respond. The first fight try i just couldnt seem to hold the hate, it kept getting pulled off me, second try I built aggro straight away and held it until the nail showed up and no one seemed bothered to target it so I thought I would. Flash doesn't seem to work on Ilfrit and being lvl 20, I only have some basic moves, none of which seem to build aggro like overpower or provoke. What was I supposed to do. I hate that you can't send tells once the instance is over

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Need to remove the name from your post. Not allowed to complain about people by name on the forums.

FYI, Flash DOES work on Ifrit. He may resist the Blind effect, but it still increases enmity. Secondly, overpower and provoke should NOT be your main way of holding hate. Both classes get a three step combo (Fast Blade + Savage Blade + Rage of Halone for gladiator, Heavy Swing + Skull Sunder + Butcher's Block for marauder) which will be your main method of keeping enmity. Provoke is actually VERY ineffective, it gives a tiny amount of enmity. The use of provoke is that it sets your enmity to match whoever is highest, so it's more useful if someone suddenly gains a massive amount of hate, swapping tanks in 8-man content, or recovering after being raised.

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FYI, Flash DOES work on Ifrit. He may resist the Blind effect, but it still increases enmity. Secondly, overpower and provoke should NOT be your main way of holding hate. Both classes get a three step combo (Fast Blade + Savage Blade + Rage of Halone for gladiator, Heavy Swing + Skull Sunder + Butcher's Block for marauder) which will be your main method of keeping enmity. Provoke is actually VERY ineffective, it gives a tiny amount of enmity. The use of provoke is that it sets your enmity to match whoever is highest, so it's more useful if someone suddenly gains a massive amount of hate, swapping tanks in 8-man content, or recovering after being raised.

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But being lvl 20, I don't have the gla 3 step combo and I swear to god I used fastblade then savage, when that didnt work i used flash until my mp ran out and it made no difference either way. As for holding hate, i prehaps gave the wrong impression, I don't spam overpower to hold, but I do use to regain hate if lost or quickly aggro new mobs that appear. Am I using it wrong?

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Need to remove the name from your post. Not allowed to complain about people by name on the forums.

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Done, sorry for the infraction

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Originally Posted by damofitz

But being lvl 20, I don't have the gla 3 step combo and I swear to god I used fastblade then savage, when that didnt work i used flash until my mp ran out and it made no difference either way. As for holding hate, i prehaps gave the wrong impression, I don't spam overpower to hold, but I do use to regain hate if lost or quickly aggro new mobs that appear. Am I using it wrong?

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Sounds like you are using a very low level weapon. Weapon damage makes a huge difference in holding emnity, Trya nd get a level 20 GLD weapon and you will see a massive improvement.

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Sounds like you are using a very low level weapon. Weapon damage makes a huge difference in holding emnity, Trya nd get a level 20 GLD weapon and you will see a massive improvement.

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I had a level 15 pink, forget what it was called and a 15 shield, just upgraded to a lvl 20 and gain 1 on attack. I didn't think of that, maybe I'll see a difference now

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But being lvl 20, I don't have the gla 3 step combo and I swear to god I used fastblade then savage, when that didnt work i used flash until my mp ran out and it made no difference either way.

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Do not wait for the combo to not work. I mean, Fast Blade > Savage Blade > Flash > Rinse and repeat. Pop up your defensive abilities (or even offensive if any) and stick to your aggro combo + Flash. If you run out of MP do not spam Fast Blade > Riot Blade, just use it untill you can cast Flash again, then back to Fast Blade > Savage Blade > Flash > Fast Blade > Savage Blade...
Also, do not forget Fight or Flight + Shield Lob will give you a good chunk of hate aswell.
On the other hand, get Skull Sunder from Marauder (Lv.4) if you haven't already. It helps.

PS. On a side note, I don't know if you're that type of tank, but just in case: please, do not dance around the boss. Please.