Hey all,
I'm fairly new to the game, and I've leveled a 50 SCH and WHM, with SCH preferred. One thing that has been bothering me is that I typically use Eos, but I am not getting max use out of her because I rarely if ever use Fey Covenant.
The reason for this is I am not actually sure which boss abilities deal magical (versus physical) damage. As the ability is on a 2 min cd and lasts for only 20 sec, it's definitely something I have to use at specific points in time.
Does anyone know of a website which would have information like this? Boss abilities, type dmg dealt, etc.? And if not, how do I figure out if something is magic damage or not, other than taking the ability with Fey Covenant and then without?
Which boss abilities deal magic damage?
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05-01-2014, 04:41 PMSerabethWhich boss abilities deal magic damage?
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05-01-2014, 10:38 PMSchdawn
You can try looking at your non-WHM Protect effect.
If the protect shield is displayed when you receive the attack, it's Physical.
If not, it's Magical. -
05-01-2014, 11:05 PMAlistaire
Aside from that, you really shouldn't be 'typically using Eos'. Eos is a last resort when killing things faster is less important than surviving big moves/lots of aoe damage.
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05-01-2014, 11:09 PMNintenPyjak64I think you may be confusing the 2 fairies. Eos is the healer pet while Selene is the buffing petQuote:
Originally Posted by Alistaire
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05-01-2014, 11:14 PMAmyNeudaizHonestly using Eos for more heals and doing more DPS yourself ends up amounting to more dps than those 2 wimpy buffs from Selene.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alistaire
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05-02-2014, 04:45 AMgivemeraptors
Selene works best with full, mixed parties. However, I've slowly come to realize that I can pretty much heal everything without Eos and sticking with Selene. Especially if there's a WHM in the party.
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05-02-2014, 05:07 AMSeraviEdalborez
The short version: if you can't block or parry it? It's probably magical. Magical attacks also will never proc Eye for an Eye, and crossclass Virus does nothing on these enemies except waste the Antibody timer for a SCH or SMN.
Stuff on a fight-to-fight basis
Coil
Everything a "node" type enemy does (ADS as an example) is magical. E4E does nothing, Foresight does nothing, etc
Ifrit
M: Nails exploding
P: Incinerate (confirmation needed, been forever since I've tanked this)
Titan
M: Tumult, Weight of the Land, bombs
P: Rock Buster, Mountain Buster, Landslide
Leviathan
M: Everything head does (including Tidal Roar), spumes exploding
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05-02-2014, 06:46 AMVena_SeraEnabling yourself to dps =/= 30% spell/skill speed to 7 other people. In terms of doing more overall damage, Selene is the better choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz
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05-02-2014, 06:58 AMrhemi1Honestly, the only ones I've ever seen happy about Selene's buffs are Black Mages. Summoners and Bards are completely indifferent to it since it's terrible for them, and Monks and Dragoons just grumble about TP drain. They really need to take a look at Skill/Spell Speed in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vena_Sera
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05-02-2014, 07:09 AMStarisThat is just peoples inability to understand TP / DPS in long fights, it is impossible for them to being less damage with the buffs on. They just think they are doing less because tp runs out faster. Furthermore if they better manage abilities by TP cost for said cases they can do even MORE damageQuote:
Originally Posted by rhemi1
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05-02-2014, 10:15 AMlxSch
Eos is not needed if team does not require a lot of aoe healing. Fey Glow increases your cast speed and make healing easier (for you and 2nd healer), Fey Light boosts bards and dragoons who hopefully know how to dps, however both deplete mana/tp fast so is not good for prolonged battles.
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05-02-2014, 01:55 PMAlistaireNo, I'm not. If you need Eos to DPS maybe you're just not well geared enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64
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05-02-2014, 05:13 PMSerabeth
Thanks to those who responded to my original question about magic vs. physical damage. I don't really look at the protect animation very much, and I find more often than not I'm with a whm anyways, but people wrote some helpful stuff here to give me ideas :).
I wasn't really asking about which pet to use, as I'm pretty confident in my ability to choose when to use Selene. I'm not a raider, just a casual, since I can't raid on a regular schedule, so I just queue for df. So really no need to min/max. The extra healing from Eos helps me a lot, and Fey Illumination is great as well.
If I didn't have any latency at all, I could probably choose Selene more, but on fights like Titan, I have to move almost before each ability is cast and I have to keep moving long even after I'm out of whatever the attack is. Eos helps with the aoe healing on that since I am moving so much. -
05-03-2014, 02:46 AMZoeila
even in single target heal situations i prefer eos for the healing buff. honestly most people that i see use selene let selene auto pilot. well not most all probally due to silence.
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05-03-2014, 06:57 AMAldoVonAlexandros????? what are u talking about??Quote:
Originally Posted by Alistaire
oic, u are cofusing pets, eos is the healer and selene the bufferQuote:
Originally Posted by Alistaire
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Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez
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05-04-2014, 11:19 PMCabalabob
Geocrush is magical too, used blm manaward and it eats some of the damage. So you could throw up a fey covenant on ex Titan just before those to help out.
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05-05-2014, 04:08 AMSeraviEdalborez
You could, but nobody should be dying to Geocrush unless they are weakened + unshielded, severely undergeared in VIT, or derping around in the middle. Immediate AoE damage never comes right after it so there's little point.