Hello FFXIV'ers and Forum supervisors
As in the title , the new healer's gear is lacking alot alot of piety ! and if it was replaced with determination \ Spellspeed \ or critical hit ! it's OK!
but ! But accuracy ! why do I need Accuracy?
even if i'm a scholar I won't hit the accuracy cap or will be helping me using my energy drain ...
Is it only me or it's the same for all healers?
My mana was around 4.7k and now it's just 4.2k ! because of the ilv100\110 and it'll be decreasing more and more the more items that i'm gonna get
! Discussion START'O
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04-28-2014, 04:14 PMEternallyIlv100-110 Healer's gear and accessories lacking alot of Piety
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04-28-2014, 04:24 PMispano
It allows them to have more variations in stats for healers. Instead of always only 3 major variations. Plus if you kept getting more and more PIE, due to how mp regen works, you could almost ignore MP management.
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04-28-2014, 04:28 PMDreamerYou can already ignore it for everything except the hardest content in the game. But beyond that, if you have the top-end gear in the game, it SHOULD reduce things like MP management.Quote:
Originally Posted by ispano
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04-28-2014, 04:29 PMCrimson-Falcon
4200 is somewhat low
while 4500 is good amount
and yes seems lacking piety
im i90 WHM and my mp is 4898
above recommended lol -
04-28-2014, 04:29 PMSepix
PIE is not needed for the endgame fights.
I can heal T8 almost solo as WHM and only need 1 Manasong for 15 seconds before the first 3 tower set because of the AoE madness there.
For T9 i do waste a lot of mana currently but that is probably because we aren't playing the fight well yet and i am pretty sure its doable without PIE as well.
Accuracy is completely useless though! -
04-28-2014, 04:32 PMTheCurls
Accuracy is a third stat, though. It's not counted like Pie/Det/Crit/Speed are. Plus it's not useless. SCH's can use the accuracy.
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04-28-2014, 04:35 PMCrimson-Falconcan you tell me in what?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCurls
auro + shadow flare both doesnt require ACC -
04-28-2014, 04:42 PMispanoIn any place you can sneak in some damage. For example, I DPS in a few spots in T8 as a Scholar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon
If piety was on every single piece of the new healer gear, it wouldn't reduce MP management, it would make it near pointless to manage it. And that's bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamer
Job? Your job is to help the group clear the encounter to the best of your ability. And if you can throw some dps in to help clear it a bit quicker without hampering healing, why not? Also, even if Energy Drain misses, you still get the MP. Not to mention the ACC on the healer gear doesn't take away from the other secondaries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eternally
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04-28-2014, 04:43 PMHumsterMKXShadow Flare does not, but the rest need ACC. During Levi EX I miss a lot of my dots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon
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04-28-2014, 04:56 PMTheCurlsEnergy Drain is a big one in a pinch, but anything else as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon
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04-28-2014, 05:06 PMEternally
Even with the extra Accuracy it's still RNG To miss the energy drain or not
In turn 8 most of the ppl doing it 1 Tank so SCH damage is almost useless and not needed! if not all the groups my group does !
I'm not having any mana issues with the current MP which is 4.2k from 4.8 or 4.7k before
but it's just sucks that they gave us some useless stat
and in levi EX I usually do Solo Heal as WHM or sometimes as Scholar ! so I don't need the accuracy either because that's DPS Job to dps not healers to DPS! (EVEN If it's not a solo heal ) -
04-28-2014, 06:44 PMBillzey
Nobody is forcing you to use the new gear. I hate how people seem to think higher ilvl automatically means best gear. Use crafted gear if you need piety (penta-melded of course), allagan gear if you don't.
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04-28-2014, 07:25 PMMerleCheck party finder. I dare you to see that againQuote:
Originally Posted by Billzey
Everyone will "force" you if you want to join PF...... i saw a PF requesting ilvl 93 to beat Garuda ex.... GARUDA! -
04-28-2014, 10:12 PMStarkbeaumontalso hp pools get bigger, ppl take more dmg. of course you wanna make sure to be able to heal them up as fast as possible. "but but but i got 600 mp more i can just throw in another spell" ... ya... no... party might be dead by the time. you are right, no one forces you, but if you don't force yourself to get better gear, you might want to think about if you are doing it rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Billzey
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04-28-2014, 10:46 PMRbstr
If you want more pie don't buy the Daystar pieces that don't have pie on them. Almost every slot has pie available when you mix the High Allagan set in.
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04-28-2014, 10:58 PMCrater
Highest Piety you could get in 2.1 from equipment was 191 (not counting your natural base score of 340 or so, race-dependent). Highest Piety you can get in 2.2 from equipment is 215/217 (SCH/WHM, respectively).
The stat is there, if you want it. The extra accuracy on i100+ stuff is 'free', as other people have said. -
04-28-2014, 11:11 PMMurakumoMillenniumExcept for the fact that higher ilvl gear is almost always better, yeah. Especially in the case of 90 vs 100, 100 will win every time, even if you lose some PIE. Your main stat is going to trump w/e few secondaries you lose in the vast majority of situations. So yeah, higher ilvl automatically means best gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billzey
With the extra acc you'll hit more often, which means more dps, which means the boss dies faster, which means you have to heal less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eternally
So what's the issue exactly...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eternally
Useful. Acc is a useful stat. If you're not utilizing it, you're doing something wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eternally
As a healer you should be doing w/e dps you can on top of healing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eternally