Coil Turns 6-9

If there is one thing that is killing the game for me, it's the weekly lock outs. I don't understand why turns 6-9 had to be weekly lock outs. Why was it not given a loot lock out like Crystal Tower?

It so frustrating that I can not catch up with my friends because of this. I was ecstatic when the weekly lock out was removed, I thought turn 6-9 would also be free to do at anytime. That however is not the case. Now all I can do is grind stupid soldiery tomes and the stupid atma books by myself.

Why was it not given the loot lock out this way we can all enjoy at our own leisure? Why do I have to wait till 2.3+ for that to become unlocked and something even better comes out?

Not this thread again. do a search, it has been discussed many times on the forums. Get a static, stop whining.

The lockout is good, otherwise all other ppl gear their mains in about 2 months and get rid of RNG because you could run as often as you want. Furthermore, ppl would sell the new stuff once they are on farm.

Agree with OP, if they just want to stop ppl gearing too fast, do a system to only allow looting when you win the turn the 1st time during the week, so they people can play with each other more

its just like CT then :/

Coil is not CT. Stop wanting it to be like CT.

First when I was reading this thread I thought it was a joke and I started laughing, but then it quickly turned to tears when I found out you are serious. Are you for real you entitled lalafel?! FFXIV is already a socialist uptopia where everybody can get everything, can you please leave some content for us hardcore progress raiders? so we actually have something to look forward to. Stop complaining and embrace the gods of RNG! ;)

I agree with OP here. I have just returned from my slumber and am actually alittle sad that we still have progress based on RNG... :/ It took me several months getting my first coil drop in 2.0-2.1 because RNG messed with me. I play a game, not a lottery :/ If I wanted to play a lottery I would go and play a lottery. Sorry, but I dislike that RNG partly decide how fast you will progress. Also that it makes so one can not run with several groups for helping purposes makes me alittle annoyed.

No, RNG will not stop your progress, it just easens your progress. Your skill is stopping your progress. You have the iLvl 100 weathered stuff and 3* meldable ilvl90. Heck, look at BG's gear and they downed T9 with it, without a ton of high-allagan pieces but a ton of pentamelds.

It's an MMO...there's always going to be RNG. If they adjusted the lockout it would be like was said earlier...you'd be locked out of rolling on the Turn once you cleared it. That wouldn't be bad but it wouldn't solve the OPs gripe other than to allow them to help friends. A guaranteed loot drop per week like CT would actually be worse in the long run because if RNG smiles on you you can get multiple drops from Coil each week to make up for a week where you got nothing. I say this because a CT style lockout would likely lock you out of EVERYTHING if you loot an item from any turn. You would have to make the painful choice whether to lot on that Turn 6 piece or let it go Greed to others and hope for your Turn 8 or 9 drop.

Wow so many people who need to learn how to read. Please show me where I said I wanted loot switched to RNG specifically.

My main point is I want to group with my friends, because unfortunately most duty finders or pick up groups end up being like several of the responses here, a bunch of jerks.

I want Coils 6-9 to be a weekly loot lock out so I have a chance to do it with my friends. It sucks when I get home so late and everyone in my linkshell has done it. If it were a weekly loot lockout, they would still be able to do it.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

My main point is I want to group with my friends, because unfortunately most duty finders or pick up groups end up being like several of the responses here, a bunch of jerks.

I want Coils 6-9 to be a weekly loot lock out so I have a chance to do it with my friends. It sucks when I get home so late and everyone in my linkshell has done it. If it were a weekly loot lockout, they would still be able to do it.

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Nope, that will never happen.

Every installment of coil is supposed to last SE for 6 months so as they plan. If loot is made like CT, it will only take 3 weeks for each turn for you to get your gears. If you are a team like BG, or quite the handful of teams that are already on T7 and T8, it will only take you 3 weeks to get yourself over avg ilvl100 in gear which will make your life in the 2nd installment of coil even easier. After that what do you want to do? Come to the forums and complain you had all the loots, bosses are easy and there's nothing to do?

And not to forget without loot lock out, coil will be sellable which I don't think that's what SE and even players want to see. Not trying to be elitist but coil gear actually allows me to gauge players I met in pug how good they'd probably be. If I see you with say High Allagan weapon then you should be good stuff, and if I need people to play with on the tougher contents, I'd know who to approach for a smoother sail.

Anyone can complain about what SE has done wrong but I'd strongly agree that the lock for coil is done right.

weekly lockouts are ok.

STOP WHINING ... and start to progress ...

gimme a "like", when ur a "pro", an "advocate", or just an "anti-Whiner" XD

You say you don't like that when you get home late you get left out by your "friends". Sounds like their not very good friends to me? Have you considered setting up a schedule? If they are your friends and you want to do coil with them they suggest that everyone meet at a time that is convenient for all so you can do coil together? That's what a smart person would do...If they aren't willing to wait, then so called "friends" aren't really good friends at all.

No way dude you can't be self-resourceful, the better solution is to endlessly complain on the forums about the game design holding you back and anything else that isn't your own (lack of) ability.

Instead of treating game design as a lesson of how to adapt and get better, we should just complain until it's changed to suit our uncritical attitude about ourselves. That way we never wonder why pug groups are always "jerks" to us.

It's like we're on XBox live right now.

New turns should have used lootlock with little twist, instead having one loot in a week of your choosing you should get locked for said turn even if you didnt get anything. This way FC's could still "spam" turns for peoples that missed their weekly run or just for training/lulz.

First 2 weeks of coil lockouts being removed from 1-5, I had ALL I needed for both SMN and WHM. With a good static what's stopping me from doing the same with 6-9? Then what would I do for the next 2 months?

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Originally Posted by Synestra

New turns should have used lootlock with little twist, instead having one loot in a week of your choosing you should get locked for said turn even if you didnt get anything. This way FC's could still "spam" turns for peoples that missed their weekly run or just for training/lulz.

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I feel like this is the best way to do it (Although I'm certain there's an argument to be made there about 'do it with 8, then swap one person so they get all drops, then with another so they get all drops').

It's not even always about getting the loot - it's about the fact that your FC has about 10 people capable of entering the Binding Coil and eight of them are already grouped up and you're kinda left out in the cold except when you get lucky enough to be called to sub in for one of them, so it's content that you just don't get to experience without opening yourself up to groups you might not trust/like.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

If there is one thing that is killing the game for me, it's the weekly lock outs. I don't understand why turns 6-9 had to be weekly lock outs. Why was it not given a loot lock out like Crystal Tower?

It so frustrating that I can not catch up with my friends because of this. I was ecstatic when the weekly lock out was removed, I thought turn 6-9 would also be free to do at anytime. That however is not the case. Now all I can do is grind stupid soldiery tomes and the stupid atma books by myself.

Why was it not given the loot lock out this way we can all enjoy at our own leisure? Why do I have to wait till 2.3+ for that to become unlocked and something even better comes out?

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they want you to pay for your gear thats why your limited to 4 drops a month & 1800 tomestones a month. there selling you that gear.
i decided to try 2.2 cuz i thought they were gonna fix things but nope, the same gear treadmill with limits on progression.

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Originally Posted by Grotesque

The lockout is good, otherwise all other ppl gear their mains in about 2 months and get rid of RNG because you could run as often as you want. Furthermore, ppl would sell the new stuff once they are on farm.

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Wow, yeah, you're so right. People could have fun and play with all their friends, and we obviously don't want that. Instead lets separate them into statics and force some people to be left out entirely or to find an entirely new group of people to do Coil with. Because oh man, if people gear up too fast they might unsub!!! Or maybe if there was more content in the game to do besides Coil2 they wouldn't and the lockout is literally the only reason people are staying once they beat T9. That's not a good thing. At all.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

Wow, yeah, you're so right. People could have fun and play with all their friends, and we obviously don't want that. Instead lets separate them into statics and force some people to be left out entirely or to find an entirely new group of people to do Coil with. Because oh man, if people gear up too fast they might unsub!!! Or maybe if there was more content in the game to do besides Coil2 they wouldn't and the lockout is literally the only reason people are staying once they beat T9. That's not a good thing. At all.

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We are a 9man static. One sits out at a week and goes with another group if all 9 would have time, which isn't always the case and we rotate who sits out. It is your own fault if you can't manage > 8 man situations properly to the current situation. Then your 'friends' are all to greedy to sit out one week every 8 weeks. If your only solution is to cry you gonna have a bad time.

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Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

First 2 weeks of coil lockouts being removed from 1-5, I had ALL I needed for both SMN and WHM. With a good static what's stopping me from doing the same with 6-9? Then what would I do for the next 2 months?

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he doesn't want to remove lockouts completely ... he wants it to change to CT like lockout
now tell me... how are you supposed to gear 2 chars in 2 weeks, if you get only 2 drops ?

This would require people to run 6-9 or just 6-8 (before 9 kill) multiple times a day/week to gear competitively. I appreciate some time gating so that I can have a life and still be relatively competitive. Thanks SE.