Tankin baby, brayflox

I get a lot of flack on here but honestly without others input I'd be horrible at tanking so here's my input on brayflox hm. You can get sr around 15 min! Which for me is awesome, just getting into sr so I will overpull occasionally, first mob grab six, then the rest (wiped trying more) next mob save lb if poss and take all the goblins and lb them. Last boss you can lb right before the bomb and skip that step. I never see actual time but last run we wiped from over pull but lb got us in the 15 min area

In a true Brayflox SR, you'll want war, blm, blm, sch. If the healer is good and blm know how to dps properly you should be able to pull all mobs from start to first boss in a single pull. The next pull will grab ALL the goblin guards ignoring the raptors (ie., all the mobs to the second boss). Third pull will be to the gated door. 4th pull will be to the last boss. If you take more than 4 pulls its not ideal.

P.S. A normal non-SR version of brayflox with randoms typically will take me 16-18 minutes.

Nice, I made party finder but did drg, bard and blm and we got bard and blm but couldn't handle the entire first pull. Next time just blm then :)

How fast is sr with your good player friends? I wanna get up to the good speeds so my FC can use me better

I just wanna mention how much I love tanking this. I have war(i78) sch(i70) and monk all at 50(i93) and the war trumps them all in bray hm. By far. Nothing like the feeling you get when you're tanking so many enemies...

i did some first 2 boss in around 7 mins.. a full run... it was... i wonder how long it was...15? min maybe more...

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Originally Posted by RoxasXIII

I just wanna mention how much I love tanking this. I have war(i78) sch(i70) and monk all at 50(i93) and the war trumps them all in bray hm. By far. Nothing like the feeling you get when you're tanking so many enemies...

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the feel of using berserk and blood bath on the mobs *-*

bard and blackmage also works well i think

heard peopel saying monk are good for that as well because rock breaker.. not sure if it really is though...

war/blm/blm/sch seems to be best and with 4 pulls like Nabian mentioned. People like to shout for bard for some reasons I don't know but when I run with one, it's always slower. Foe Requiem doesn't make up for the lack of more flare.

I was gonna post another thread but don't wanna be annoying. I got questions though and it's embarrassing to yell lol if you guys know please answer. 1: need lots of myth. I use roulette so idk what is the best dungeon just for myth ATM? 2: I want tank mount, I look and just get confused. Has this started? When it does what dungeons count? You guys kick ass, wanna get on that upper level of tanks too, they're in demand

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Originally Posted by RoxasXIII

I just wanna mention how much I love tanking this. I have war(i78) sch(i70) and monk all at 50(i93) and the war trumps them all in bray hm. By far. Nothing like the feeling you get when you're tanking so many enemies...

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I've ran it maybe 10 times, at least half we wiped once. Those were probably the funniest runs I've had in the whole game, not too long, no one cared we wiped, good players. No one seems to care if we wipe pulling to much. Think it helps players like me learn a lot to keep up. I wouldn't pull more than one mob for hella long lol

1. Speed run first 2 bosses of Brayflox HM. Takes under 7 minutes for 50 myth. Can get all 270 runs in around 32 straight hours. You might die from it though.
2. Tank mounts only count in Coil (excluding turn 3) and extreme Primals so best way to get it is to farm turn 4 over and over. 6 mins per run, 200 runs will take you 20 hours+ assuming no wipes.

My fastest speed run (first two bosses only) was 5:12 from instance start to robot dead. Went War/Whm/Brd/Blm. Pull to base of ramp, holy/flare/whatever bards do, benediction the tank when he needs a heal, continue damage. Once everything is dead, grab the key, pull everything to first boss room and lock it all out. Dps the boss as quickly as possible, stopping to heal when needed (my best run needed only 2x Med 2 and 2x Regen for first boss). After boss, pull next three groups, gather them, zerg them down. For the second boss, dps like mad; we only needed 1x med 2+ Cure 2+regen.

It will get faster as folks gear up; the biggest thing is knowing when to bail out for your healer and when to use externals. I used E4E on trash pulls and virus on bosses.

Actually just did this :) I had no idea you could lock the mob out like that. We did 4 runs in like 30 min. I thought speed run just meant go fast, wish I had known that all those times doing wp

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Originally Posted by Nabian

In a true Brayflox SR, you'll want war, blm, blm, sch. If the healer is good and blm know how to dps properly you should be able to pull all mobs from start to first boss in a single pull. The next pull will grab ALL the goblin guards ignoring the raptors (ie., all the mobs to the second boss). Third pull will be to the gated door. 4th pull will be to the last boss. If you take more than 4 pulls its not ideal.

P.S. A normal non-SR version of brayflox with randoms typically will take me 16-18 minutes.

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WHM can heal the tank a lot harder than SCH thus you can pull bigger. If the tank knows how to pull and doesn't just keep running into the next pack... It's like so many of them don't understand that they get hurt badly during their large pulls.

My FC and I have done a combination of different speed run tactics for this. Our favourite so far is Warrior, Black Mage, Black Mage, Scholar. I pop Foresight for each pull while running > Vengeance when gathering them all together > Overpower > Bloodbath > Overpower > Berserk > Overpower > Internal Release > Overpower > Infuriate > Overpower > Steel Cyclone > Then more Overpower spam until Pacification or running out of TP, and all mobs should be dead.

But Paladin, Black Mage, Bard, White Mage is also pretty fast for the first pull. Paladin can Hallowed Ground and spam Flash and Circle of Scorn when its up, while White Mage can spam Holy, along with Black Mage triple Flares!

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Originally Posted by LukeyP666

My FC and I have done a combination of different speed run tactics for this. Our favourite so far is Warrior, Black Mage, Black Mage, Scholar. I pop Foresight for each pull while running > Vengeance when gathering them all together > Overpower > Bloodbath > Overpower > Berserk > Overpower > Internal Release > Overpower > Infuriate > Overpower > Steel Cyclone > Then more Overpower spam until Pacification or running out of TP, and all mobs should be dead.

But Paladin, Black Mage, Bard, White Mage is also pretty fast for the first pull. Paladin can Hallowed Ground and spam Flash and Circle of Scorn when its up, while White Mage can spam Holy, along with Black Mage triple Flares!

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Instead of Steel Cyclone try doing Infuriate > (that skill that gives you normal dmg) > Berserk > more over power spam.

I prefer SCH over WHM.

SCH can easily heal max pulls in Bray and full time Cleric on boss w/ Fey buffs. Too nice to pass up for me.

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Originally Posted by C-croft

Instead of Steel Cyclone try doing Infuriate > (that skill that gives you normal dmg) > Berserk > more over power spam.

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Yeah, I've tried using Unchained a couple of times, but the mobs are usually dead before you get the full effect, and with Berserk and Internal Release both up, I normally see a lot of big numbers (and nice self heals from Bloodbath) from the Steel Cyclone :D

1. WAR /BLM /BLM /SCH

Run:

• first area: pull all mobs up to the first key, or if possible with all CD's from WAR to the first closed door.
• boss: ignore adds, dmg the boss
• sec. area: pull all mobs to end of this area, lb them
• sec. boss: DMG!!!!!
• third area: same like sec. area, pull all mobs, and maybe! LB them (if possible)
• last boss: DMG

time: under 15min

I still get us killed but i try and hit foresight while running then bloodbath on last pull then vengeance, overpower, convalescence, overpower, berserk, overpower, unchained. Usually healer just saves my ass lol but they're more experienced so idc lol started using potions of vit too if healers havin trouble. Some groups they kill everything before you can even buff, others not so much. Like locking the monsters out a lot :)

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Originally Posted by C-croft

Instead of Steel Cyclone try doing Infuriate > (that skill that gives you normal dmg) > Berserk > more over power spam.

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Save Unchained for bosses, more aggro/more deeps.

Though, just to clarify, my preferred method is: Bloodbath + Vengeance while running > Infuriate when they're getting close enough > Steel Cyclone > Berserk > OP Spam.

If Vengeance isn't up I'll combine Thrill and Conv, Foresight whenever Vengeance or those two fall off.

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Originally Posted by Lemon8or

war/blm/blm/sch seems to be best and with 4 pulls like Nabian mentioned. People like to shout for bard for some reasons I don't know but when I run with one, it's always slower. Foe Requiem doesn't make up for the lack of more flare.

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How much difference though? For me a WAR/PLD, BLM, BRD, WHM combination will take about 7mins for a myth SR and about 12mins for a full run.

Shit, Managed to do a 5min 56s run with a WHM, BLM, BRD, PLD(me). Was glorious. We averaged 6m 20s though.

BLM BRD DPS comp seems to be the go to though, get LB faster that way and some other various things BRDs bring to the table that I don't know ><

U don't need all mobs for 1st pull. Just 8, before the last coeurl.
Lock the coeurl, opo-opo & flower outside from 1st boss battlefield. :D
I'm pretty sure SE will change this soon.

2nd pull will be the 9 goblins. Stack them in one place & spam aoe heal.

3rd pull will be 2 goblins & 1 coeurl. These can't be skipped.

4th pull, u can skip the big brown coeurl if u kill fast enough.

Last boss, save the flare & prepare DoT. Cast the flare with swiftcast right before he start circling.

11mins for full Soldiery SR & 6mins for Myth SR is already good :D

11 min! Good deal, I think by the time I get to my third or fourth atma book I may be there lol I've done good first two boss sr but still not great at it

I'm really bored.. Already did this for 3 atma books which means 3x1500 mytho or 90 runs. :(
still need 5x1500 or 150 runs for animus LOL

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Originally Posted by KimTaeyeon

I'm really bored.. Already did this for 3 atma books which means 3x1500 mytho or 90 runs. :(
still need 5x1500 or 150 runs for animus LOL

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Why the rush, I am at 3rd book and I do it slowly that by the time I finish a book I will have enough myth to get another without needing to do much speed run. I just run roulette, do some dungeon once in a while. 2-3 speed run and I will start to get bored and sleepy, I rather take my time than rushing through now.

I'm just sitting watching fates playing on fb. Stupid atmas

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Originally Posted by Nabian

In a true Brayflox SR, you'll want war, blm, blm, sch. If the healer is good and blm know how to dps properly you should be able to pull all mobs from start to first boss in a single pull. The next pull will grab ALL the goblin guards ignoring the raptors (ie., all the mobs to the second boss). Third pull will be to the gated door. 4th pull will be to the last boss. If you take more than 4 pulls its not ideal.

P.S. A normal non-SR version of brayflox with randoms typically will take me 16-18 minutes.

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WHM, BRD, BLM, WAR.

BRD requiems, BLM and WHM eat through stuff with Holy/AoE spam. Although the best run I've done was 5 minutes, 18 seconds for the first two bosses with DRG, WHM, PLD, BLM.

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Originally Posted by Bigpurpleharness

WHM, BRD, BLM, WAR.

BRD requiems, BLM and WHM eat through stuff with Holy/AoE spam. Although the best run I've done was 5 minutes, 18 seconds for the first two bosses with DRG, WHM, PLD, BLM.

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that DRG must have been pretty beastly.

question: does WAR really do this much faster than PLD? My WAR is sitting on 38 right now (have pretty much full allagan + some myth and noct pieces (no relic obv).

Would it be worth it to level WAR to 50 and get Dual Haken to cut my speed run times/break up the monotony?

I love doing this with PLD but it is little more than pulling and managing cool downs.

PLD is more reliable, WAR is quicker.

PLD has access to Hallowed Ground for the first or second pull, which basically lets the healer get off a Holy or two. Alternatively you can use it for it's intended use and press it when you need heals.

WAR requires more attention from the healer, but has 2 AOE abilities that they'll be spamming to generate threat that actually do damage. PLD only has access to CoS and is otherwise spamming Flash. It's not much, but it adds up. WAR also does more damage on bosses as they have access to a plethora of offensive cooldowns as well as, y'know, Storm's Eye.

I wouldn't level WAR just for speed running this though, it's not much of a time difference with PLD and it's less stressful on your team.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

PLD is more reliable, WAR is quicker.

PLD has access to Hallowed Ground for the first or second pull, which basically lets the healer get off a Holy or two. Alternatively you can use it for it's intended use and press it when you need heals.

WAR requires more attention from the healer, but has 2 AOE abilities that they'll be spamming to generate threat that actually do damage. PLD only has access to CoS and is otherwise spamming Flash. It's not much, but it adds up. WAR also does more damage on bosses as they have access to a plethora of offensive cooldowns as well as, y'know, Storm's Eye.

I wouldn't level WAR just for speed running this though, it's not much of a time difference with PLD and it's less stressful on your team.

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thanks. Like you said, speed running with PLD is just flash flash flash COS flash run pull flash.

I kind of wanted to someone to say that WAR would take like 2 minutes off the time on its own -_-

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Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan

thanks. Like you said, speed running with PLD is just flash flash flash COS flash run pull flash.

I kind of wanted to someone to say that WAR would take like 2 minutes off the time on its own -_-

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It does lower the time some. Berserk + Unchained + Bloodbath allows for 200 Overpowers per target, and around 400-500 healing per overpower. That's with an Ilvl 90 WAR, it does add up. That being said, PLD is still workable, and is definitely safer. A good WHM can easily spam holy while keeping a WAR up also, but if your tank isn't Ilvl 90+ yet, you will start suffering with a WAR more than a PLD, when it comes to Holy frequency.

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Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan

that DRG must have been pretty beastly.

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I was very surprised to say the least.

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Originally Posted by Bigpurpleharness

I was very surprised to say the least.

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I guess the Dragoon was contributing to the AOE damage on the big pulls, but then really sped things up when it came to burning down the two bosses? My favoured group of Warrior, double Black Mage and White Mage/Scholar can often get to the 2nd boss in under five minutes, but then the run slows down because of the lack of melee single target DPS.

My combo is Unchained+BB+ Berserk +(Steel Clone for a consecutive pull).

If you got a party that's going to do multiple runs might as well eat food like toast for the extra HP. Last me 3 runs if only doing the first 2 bosses.

If you are a career tank, then I recommend levelling both. Who knows what's going to happen in future content, one of the jobs could be buffed to OP, and you would regret not having it.

I prefer my WAR to PLD, I find it more challenging than PLD, but if you can hack it, WAR out performs PLD (at least, it feels that way - I don't run a Parser)

Also, I can clear Bray 2nd Boss in about 6-7 minutes. I can complete a full bray (HM) in 10-12 minutes using the setup WAR + SCH + (BRD or BLM) + (BRD or BLM)

I setup PF's, usually for i85+ like that, and they typically do very well.

Hi, i am tanking the brayflox Speed Run, with my PLD, i know when to pop Defense cooldown and all, with some group i am fine, but with others i tend to loose aggro after a time (often blm get the aggro back) , not a very deal but sometimes it cause a wipes or two out from a lot of runs, i don't know if it's because we are not as fast than other group, the question also is : maybe i screw ^^.
I play very simple, i just spam all the flash i can do, i pop the incivisibility skill for the first great pull to the ramp and then pop other when it finished all the 15 sec.
after i hit one time , every target. if i loose aggro i can try to get it back.
in the second pull after the first boss, i pull everything expect raptor i do the same, but here i don't know if by moment i keep agro or not (not sure about it)
i do the same for the 3rd i try to let the brown coeurl out the pull.
Maybe it's not the better way to play my pld anyway ?

sorry for my bad english also^^

and for answer to the drg beasting, them is actualy not that bad, the Side dot, AOE combo don't do awesome damage but the dragoon can do it a lot of times before be out of PT

It sounds like you're doing all you can - if you run out of MP during your Flash spam, make sure to use the Riot Blade combo for the refresh. If a BLM does take aggro and you can't get it back, use Cover and pop a cooldown. People overlook Cover a lot, but it's most useful place is in speedruns.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

If a BLM does take aggro

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Not sure if the PLD not tanking properly or the BLM is not timng flares properly lol.