A revelation for you all atma seekers.

Atma is iLv100 with zenith stats.
Animus is the real ilv100.

I know its been said, just had the need to make it clear once again.

Now lets look at it this way. WHY do you want an atma when there are stronger weapons. The NW and coil 2 are basically better in terms of stats in armor, accesories and weapons, and if youre complaining bout a skill based challenge, theres coil and primals. Theres no need to finish your atma/animus when the quest isnt even done yet. Theres more to do on the game, try something else. Farm gil on roulettes, run coil 1 with other players, teach the newbies so that theres more experienced players on your server, craft or gather if youre tired of the grind. YOU dont NEED your atma right now.

So you needed your own thread for this when others have voiced your same opinion? Few people will have the new Coil weapons for quite some time. Leviathan Ex is fun and I don't see it as much of a time investment. Many people (like myself) want to get the most grindy-crappy-rng weapon out of the way first. We know future updates will make the relic stronger and if it still holds true "customizable" in the near future.


Edit : Many people are also stuck on Titan Extreme...so there's few Party Finder groups for Leviathan Ex at the current time.

Why did you make a thread to tell us stuff we already knew? Atma may have the same stats (at the beginning) but it's a step toward the relic weapon progression. Other weapons are sidegrades.

No other weapon has Parry on it, and I like my parry thank you. And who knows? Curtana may end up BIS after all the upgrades.

Sorry if i seem off like a broken record, just thats its getting annoying how people are complaining bout the same thing over and over.

There was another BLM in my levi ex party yesterday who had the atma stardust and 2 books completed. I had the allagan secpter. He had 7 more int than me. That was reason enough right there to continue the fate grind. It was also reason enough to hate his guts.

And sorry if the rng complaints are annoying, but trust me, being boned by the rng is way more annoying.

I've finished collecting atma and now i'm working on the two books of the shield, after this i will get the animus shield with a balance of stats better only on the high allagan shield of Turn 8 xD So doing atma is helpfull and it will be necessary after next patch.

I really don't understand this post. Let people doing whatever they want.

If people have the time to grind away and farm a lot, let us. We don't complain, its only those who don't have the time or patience that start to whine about not getting something handed straight to them.

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Originally Posted by Wilan

Why did you make a thread to tell us stuff we already knew? Atma may have the same stats (at the beginning) but it's a step toward the relic weapon progression. Other weapons are sidegrades.

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And by the time you get those upgrades, there will be more weapons from other primals and dungeons that outrank it.
Your relic is a long term side project. But I do think there should be a limit on how many tries you have until they just give you the drop.
I'm thinking 1,000-10,000 range.

I would happily do 5000 fates if in doing 5000 fates, I was guaranteed the drops I need.

Really? Another thread on the SAME subject.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Really? Another thread on the SAME subject.

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yes. Lol
Really, though. I apologize if the thread has bothered anyone. Really didnt think it through when i just started writing.

I would like to request, to have the thread locked due to it being an overly repeated topic.

You do know the ilvl 110 Relic will not be released until 2.3 so only reason people would want it now is to get a head start. Right now only ilvl 100 relic is out because SE doesn't want too many players hitting Coil 2 T9 just yet and wants too keep enough players in T6-8 zone until 2.3 which is the time when SE has deemed to be the time to allow players to start working to T9 with the release of CT 2nd Raid for alternate ilvl 100 gears and Relic ilvl 110 Quest release.

Getting Animus now (ilvl 100) is only to get a head start once 2.3 is out 3 months from now and once Relic ilvl 110 Quest is out we will see Atma souls drop rate increased to a more agreeable rate or completely removed.

Yoshi-P stated that the relic will be getting a upgrade each patch from now so we will see 2.3 for Ilvl 110, Ilvl 120 in 2.4, ilvl 130 in 2.5, and etc.

we don't know exactly though, for instance 2.25 will see a piece to the relic chain also so who knows what ilvl it will be then maybe 105 maybe 110 wo knows

Because they can be upgraded possibly even up to 115 or at least up to that when 2.3 hits because the quest will continue up until 2.3 and most likely the future including the expansion, just like relics didn't end in Zeniths. Better to get the grind out of the way now as bad as the entry fee is.

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Originally Posted by Roris

Because they can be upgraded possibly even up to 115 or at least up to that when 2.3 hits because the quest will continue up until 2.3 and most likely the future including the expansion, just like relics didn't end in Zeniths. Better to get the grind out of the way now as bad as the entry fee is.

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I expect they'll nerf the grind by the time 2.3 comes out like they did with some of the 2.1 content and lockouts. I also expect you will still have gear options by the time it comes out.

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

There was another BLM in my levi ex party yesterday who had the atma stardust and 2 books completed. I had the allagan secpter. He had 7 more int than me. That was reason enough right there to continue the fate grind. It was also reason enough to hate his guts.

And sorry if the rng complaints are annoying, but trust me, being boned by the rng is way more annoying.

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The allagan scepter has more weapon damage, c'mon man you should know your stat priorities.

We know this already. We are after the final tier obviously. The Atma is a means to and end not the goal itself. -_-

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

The allagan scepter has more weapon damage, c'mon man you should know your stat priorities.

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derp moment for me. i had just assumed that because of the ilvl100, the weapon dmg was better. (in my mind i knew the truth, but my anger at the atmas clouded my momentary judgement)