"Man, drop rates on Atmas sucks"

"Okay, what about coming with us train on leviathan for a change, you might get a weapon too"

"Can't, have to finish farming these Atmas"

"Huh. What about going Coil for new gears and weapons in turn 7 ?"

"Can't, need to finish farming these Atmas. Man, it sucks SE has turned this game into a mindless grind where you have to luck out on gear and have no way but to farm mindlessly for hours upon hours !"

"Huh, sure dude, whatever."

my reply to this thread:

"Huh, sure dude, whatever."

I get it it but this really isn't funny enough to have it's own thread. You could have just written it in any of the existing ones on this subject to let people know you're cool with the Rng...

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I get it it but this really isn't funny enough to have it's own thread. You could have just written it in any of the existing ones on this subject to let people know you're cool with the Rng...

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I'm not Cool with the RNG. Or uncool. I don't care. I have months to get this thing done. In the meantime there is PLENTY of other stuff to do. People complaining about Atmas drop rate, but refusing to do anything but atma farming until they have finished NAOW because must have it 3 days after the patch, just blow my mind.

It's supposed to be long term goal, not zerg to the finish line. The damn weapon isn't even finished in this patch.

Edit: what's next ? Complaining in 2 weeks that there is nothing to do in the game ?

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I'm not Cool with the RNG. Or uncool. I don't care. I have months to get this thing done. In the meantime there is PLENTY of other stuff to do. People complaining about Atmas drop rate, but refusing to do anything but atma farming until they have finished NAOW because must have it 3 days after the patch, just blow my mind.

It's supposed to be long term goal, not zerg to the finish line. The damn weapon isn't even finished in this patch.

Edit: what's next ? Complaining in 2 weeks that there is nothing to do in the game ?

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Sorry but I don't agree with your opinion.

For some people, doing one thing at a time works best for them. Gotta set your goals otherwise stuff will get done in months. Some people don't like that.

Most people are quitting Atma quest because of the drop rate and because they want to do other contents.

Good. Tired of seeing almost exclusively Atma parties in PF. Bring on more Leviathan farming.

I did Atma first day of the patch for 4 hours. No drops. I dropped the whole FATE and finished everything else from the patch.

It felt good.

Maybe i will go back to Fate when i DF as DPS.

Took me 1 day and a half to get my ATMA just keep at it.

I did most of the content (simply cleared the dungeons and what not a couple of times) and have moved on to getting a few other things done. I think I have spent a cumulative amount of time totaling about 4 hours farming Atmas over the past few days and have come up at 0/12.

Honestly I feel like it takes away from what this game is... Mainly that it's not an Eastern MMO where grinding for a .0005% chance of a drop or towards your next level per mob is considered "fun". Albeit, as long as it's done in moderation and you still enjoy the other content and get some other stuff done it can be tolerable!

I actually find it very amusing how most are treating the Atma/Animus relic. It's like nobody knows what to do with themselves if the game isn't time gating their progression by the day.

I hope more people start thinking like this. I've posted repeatedly in the big idiotic thread about the options we have been given, but no one seems to care. Easier to complain I guess. I got 1/12 so far from just doing FATEs while I run around doing Story Quests (which are fantastic btw), and other new things. I still got a long way to go, but I don't care. I don't see myself "farming" Atmas unless I'm waiting for a queue or have already done everything else. I would have thought it would be obvious that this was the intent, as the other weapons are much stronger, but whatever. People will complain about anything.

I kind of think it's funny when people playing RPGs don't want to have RNG.

This Atma farming is getting way out of control. The system was put in place to coax the endgame players out of cities and give them a reason to do fates now and again, not to form giant hunting parties and farm them all to death. Nobody wins this way- endgame players are locked into a dull grind, and low level players lose out as there's no way to keep up with the parties. If players want to make a madcap dash to the finish line they should stick with WoW, instead of messing up FFXIV for everyone.

You folks seem to forget that a lot of people were really looking forward to upgrading their relic weapons post 2.2 and you can't blame people for having their mind set to it.
The Zenith > Atma stage has been thought out badly and needs to be adjusted.
Especially since this part of the ride does nothing more for the weapon than give it a recolor and an increase of item level.

Noone is debating the fact that they have to grind for it, heck I think most people can forgive SE for tieing this to FATEs.
But the whole RNG part as it currently is, is driving people nuts.

I just spent 3 hours this morning in Southern Thanalan and watched as my party of 8 slowly diminished down to 1 person (me) with everyone else getting an Atma.


I feel the pain.

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This Atma farming is getting way out of control. The system was put in place to coax the endgame players out of cities and give them a reason to do fates now and again, not to form giant hunting parties and farm them all to death. Nobody wins this way- endgame players are locked into a dull grind, and low level players lose out as there's no way to keep up with the parties. If players want to make a madcap dash to the finish line they should stick with WoW, instead of messing up FFXIV for everyone.

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The reason people are farming now is because in a few weeks (or maybe longer) when everybody has finished it, no one will be doing it and it will be impossible to get gold on it anymore, making your chances of getting it even lower than it is now.

I tried to take a more moderate approach. Sure I spent around 6-7 hours specifically in groups farming Atma's this weekend, but I also did a lot of other content. Between instance runs I'd be out in a zone killing fates. The sad thing. Even with a mix of farming and occasional fate kills I still got through the entire weekend without a single Atma drop. It's extremely disheartening to get through a weekend putting genuine effort into something and getting nothing out of it. This isn't delayed rewards. This feels like no rewards. You know what might make it feel better? If I wasn't doing level 4-12 fates the whole time. I'd have more abilities and I wouldn't get a paltry 35 or so GC seals from it. The entire exercise feels like a lesson in utterly wasting my time. If I at least got full seals and could use my abilities it might be a lot less terrible.

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You folks seem to forget that a lot of people were really looking forward to upgrading their relic weapons post 2.2 and you can't blame people for having their mind set to it.

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I totally can, and do. If your "mind set" wasn't clicking with what was actually happening, you change your mindset. The only people who keep doing something even if they don't really like it are addicts. I will never understand this thinking. These weapons are not good as they are compared to every other new weapon. A simple FFXIVDB search would have cleared that up. Obviously, they weren't meant to be "farmed". Western Players just need everything NOW and get angry when they can't, even if there are better options.

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The reason people are farming now is because in a few weeks (or maybe longer) when everybody has finished it, no one will be doing it and it will be impossible to get gold on it anymore, making your chances of getting it even lower than it is now.

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And that's another part that really sucks. It's like I'm forced to rush grind this if I ever want to upgrade my relic in the future.
I didn't do much Atma farming over the weekend because I already know my RNG is bad, and I kept seeing how many people would spend hours on fates and not get one drop. So I thought ok, I will just take my time getting it and just do fates here and there. But then I realized I probably won't be able to because everyone and their mom is rushing to get it spending hours and hours wasting their lives and grinding and everyone will be done with it. So it's frustrating.

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The reason people are farming now is because in a few weeks (or maybe longer) when everybody has finished it, no one will be doing it and it will be impossible to get gold on it anymore, making your chances of getting it even lower than it is now.

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And that's another part that really sucks. It's like I'm forced to rush grind this if I ever want to upgrade my relic in the future.
I didn't do much Atma farming over the weekend because I already know my RNG is bad, and I kept seeing how many people would spend hours on fates and not get one drop. So I thought ok, I will just take my time getting it and just do fates here and there. But then I realized I probably won't be able to because everyone and their mom is rushing to get it spending hours and hours wasting their lives and grinding and everyone will be done with it. So it's frustrating.

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Fairly certain the only fates you'll have problems with are boss fates, and even most of those are soloable. They'll just take longer to do. I'm only spending two hours a day on FATE grinding. Otherwise, I'll lose my sanity.

Post this on the Atma thread, we don't need 122934 threads of the same subject.

Don't the Fates scale difficulty depending on how many people were there the last time the Fate spawned? If you wait until the big rush is over, and Fates go back to where maybe one or two people do them, won't that actually make it easier to get gold? With everyone zerging Fates for Atmas, Coerthas is dead and I did a few Fates where there were four or less people, and got gold.

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And that's another part that really sucks. It's like I'm forced to rush grind this if I ever want to upgrade my relic in the future.
I didn't do much Atma farming over the weekend because I already know my RNG is bad, and I kept seeing how many people would spend hours on fates and not get one drop. So I thought ok, I will just take my time getting it and just do fates here and there. But then I realized I probably won't be able to because everyone and their mom is rushing to get it spending hours and hours wasting their lives and grinding and everyone will be done with it. So it's frustrating.

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Exactly. The problem only exists because of that core group of players that are too impatient and demand access to every piece of content in a matter of days. And because of them it's created a downward spiral of more and more people joining the farm rush until the whole damn system crashes on it's head. This is not how the game is meant to be played

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Don't the Fates scale difficulty depending on how many people were there the last time the Fate spawned? If you wait until the big rush is over, and Fates go back to where maybe one or two people do them, won't that actually make it easier to get gold? With everyone zerging Fates for Atmas, Coerthas is dead and I did a few Fates where there were four or less people, and got gold.

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That would make it better if it worked out that way.

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The reason people are farming now is because in a few weeks (or maybe longer) when everybody has finished it, no one will be doing it and it will be impossible to get gold on it anymore, making your chances of getting it even lower than it is now.

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Eh? You can get relics on every job. People will always be doing it. I'm not worried about this.

You don't need gold to get atma