Regarding Luminaries.

Are Luminaries going to be used as glamour items only in 2.2?

I saw that they updated the looks of the workbenches, however with the newly released main tools, what else will Luminaries be used for?

Those Luminaries we sank gil and time into will be nothing more than a fleeting memory in our glamour crystals. Oh well, I saw this coming a mile away...I'm more disappointed that Blacksmith (one of the better crafters in 2.0-2.1) is now pretty much junk.

Yeah I doubt that they plan to add a way to upgrade your luminary tools (although that would've been a good way to reward players who spent hours farming for those achievements).

As it stands, you'll have to glamour them onto your new tools after you complete the tool upgrade requirements. They were probably never intended to be anything more than a vanity thing anyways.

I was disappointed with this change as well. The new Crafting Main hand tools are going to be level 70. Compared to our level 50 Quested Tools / Luminary Tools there will simply be no contest in stats. I really think these new tools should have been used in our "Off-Hands." Who wants to keep using these visually generic "Off-Hand" work benches:

http://eorzeareborn.com/wp-content/u...stal-State.jpg

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Originally Posted by Kyras

They were probably never intended to be anything more than a vanity thing anyways.

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I figured this was what they were for too so I don't mind if it stays that way. I just wanted to make sure that I didn't misread anything.

Thanks for all the answers.

it's called progression. yall can stick to your 'i walked 10 hours in the snow'. i'd rather look forward to moving onto newer better things.

I thought this was expected. Every achievement item thus far has been useless outside of vanity.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

I thought this was expected. Every achievement item thus far has been useless outside of vanity.

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However crafters/gatherers have a lot LESS going for them than DoW/M classes. So it sucks that one of the cooler (and useful) items from 1.0 has been reduced to a vanity item. Its like we're taking steps back not forward with DoH/L. So much fun potential with crafting and gathering having their own classes .... wasted.

I would personally have liked the option to upgrade the luminaty instead of getting the new dull i70 ones...

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Originally Posted by Quesse

However crafters/gatherers have a lot LESS going for them than DoW/M classes. So it sucks that one of the cooler (and useful) items from 1.0 has been reduced to a vanity item. Its like we're taking steps back not forward with DoH/L. So much fun potential with crafting and gathering having their own classes .... wasted.

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you...you do know that theres new i lvl 70 crafting/gathering tools right?

Why should we work for useless achievements if SE is just going to open-hand slap crafters across the eyes?

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Originally Posted by Kyras

They were probably never intended to be anything more than a vanity thing anyways.

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Aside from the fact that they were hands down the best tools you could get for a time, yeah I'm totally sure they added them in 1.0 to be used as vanity items in 2.2.

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Originally Posted by Songi

Those Luminaries we sank gil and time into will be nothing more than a fleeting memory in our glamour crystals. Oh well, I saw this coming a mile away...I'm more disappointed that Blacksmith (one of the better crafters in 2.0-2.1) is now pretty much junk.

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The luminaries that had identical stats as the crafters af tool...
It was nothing more than for looks really...

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Originally Posted by Nekodar

The luminaries that had identical stats as the crafters af tool...
It was nothing more than for looks really...

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The "AF" tools did not always exist. Luminary tools were far superior to anything else when they were first added.

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Originally Posted by Quesse

However crafters/gatherers have a lot LESS going for them than DoW/M classes. So it sucks that one of the cooler (and useful) items from 1.0 has been reduced to a vanity item. Its like we're taking steps back not forward with DoH/L. So much fun potential with crafting and gathering having their own classes .... wasted.

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Why would you even think that items from 1.0 would forever be viable in the highest tier for anything whether it's crafting, gathering, or battle gears. Don't confuse achievement grinding with progression.

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Originally Posted by Gwaeron

The "AF" tools did not always exist. Luminary tools were far superior to anything else when they were first added.

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And this is 2.x, not 1.x...
The AF tools likely got the same stats as luminaries because a number of luminaries from 1.x were botted, and SE wanted to equalize old and new crafters.

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Originally Posted by Nekodar

And this is 2.x, not 1.x...
The AF tools likely got the same stats as luminaries because a number of luminaries from 1.x were botted, and SE wanted to equalize old and new crafters.

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Still, saying it was never for anything but looks is just wrong.

"Darklight was never for anything but looks."
"Yes it was, they were good gear in 2.0."
"YEAH WELL this is 2.2"

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Originally Posted by Gwaeron

Still, saying it was never for anything but looks is just wrong.

"Darklight was never for anything but looks."
"Yes it was, they were good gear in 2.0."
"YEAH WELL this is 2.2"

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I'm using ARR as the baseline with that statement, because that's the game we're playing.

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Originally Posted by Gwaeron

The "AF" tools did not always exist. Luminary tools were far superior to anything else when they were first added.

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double or triple melded crafted tool were better than Luminary tool during 1.0

So yes, Luminary tools were never the best tools.

Does the new tools have new workbenches? Never seen anyone mention the looks yet. Luminary should at least have their own so we can glam despite all the historical talk.

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Originally Posted by Quesse

However crafters/gatherers have a lot LESS going for them than DoW/M classes. So it sucks that one of the cooler (and useful) items from 1.0 has been reduced to a vanity item. Its like we're taking steps back not forward with DoH/L. So much fun potential with crafting and gathering having their own classes .... wasted.

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Well DoH/DoL also had more to them in 1.0 than now. So it is sad, but somehow to be expected, that those tools just don't cut it anymore.

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Originally Posted by Nekodar

I'm using ARR as the baseline with that statement, because that's the game we're playing.

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I'm playing Final Fantasy XIV. Just because you weren't there doesn't mean it didn't happen. If you can state an arbitrary point in the game's life as the baseline, so can I.