[POLL & DISCUSSION] Accessory Slot Cost ... Let your voices be heard!

Poll: What would you like to see done with Accessory-Slot-Cost?

IT'S VOTING TIME! LET'S GET SOME BAYOHNE ATTENTION ON THIS ISSUE~!

• Minor tweak/Partial reform is needed!

• Just get rid of it all together!

• I'm happy with the way it is!

VOTE TO SEE THE RESULTS!

Further Discussion

Post your opinions, thoughts, concerns or whatever comes to mind about this issue in reply to this topic! Let's get some voices on the subject!

To be the first to show my opinion on the issue, being an FFXI Player for 7 years, it gave a good sense of accomplishment every time you leveled high enough to rank up your jewelery and gain awesome stat bonuses that could help you out quite radically in fights.

Now, with FFXIV in it's current state, there is no real incentive to tier up your jewelery, as the higher stat rings cost more slots, and some believe are just eventually not worth the extra hassle of tiering up. The system is obviously flawed when people would rather level 1-50 with Silver/Brass rings, rather than get something which was obviously originally intended to be for s you gear yourself up.

Another angle I would like to show is the crafting side of things, and being a Goldsmith, I am involved with this too. There is a screeching halt for crafting jewelry beyond R30 for the most part. no one really cares for the high stat rings etc. because of the cost. Inevitably this destroys one of our main intended markets for Goldsmithing, and creates the situation that if we do wish to craft such items, it is basically at our own costs with little to no sales.

I believe after rebalances, stat-algorithm rebalances, etc. that this may have a good turnaround for us goldsmithers and players needing the accessories, but I am just looking to make this issue well known for now.

Bayohne did make a post in a related topic, however that was awhile ago and I am looking for some further clarification.

Thanks to everyone who read this and participates in voicing their opinions and also voting in the poll!


- Hellsoul out.

I voted minor tweak, it would be nice if the slots increased as you rank, failing that get rid all together and let us equip as much as we can.

I'm almost positive they already said they're going to adjust or do away with it

I believe the most recent post on the matter from devs says they will remove it altogether and just balance the items to reflect that you can wear more of them.

Um... I thought SE already said they were removing the cap on the accessory slots once they were done with the major fixes..?

Edit: I see I'm not the only one, seeing the responses above me. XD

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Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

I voted minor tweak, it would be nice if the slots increased as you rank, failing that get rid all together and let us equip as much as we can.

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That is a good idea for the current system, since it would keep lower ranks mainly using the items with lower slot-cost since it would be more efficient, and then as they level a nice tier-up progression would ensue. Would have to be a perfect balance though.


Some people think that the main problem is that if the system is completely gone, then people will look all blinged out like Mr.T all over the place but come off it... people usually wear gloves and everything else, hell I don't even see my rings/bracelets unless I need glove repairs... almost forgot rings showed. Same goes for people wearing earrings/necklaces with helmets...

Ah sorry about that if something was mentioned lmao.. fml.

Anyone have a source post or anything I could read?

... god damn ignorance = =;;;

Its buried somewhere in the dev tracker.

Here you go::

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ll=1#post82707

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Originally Posted by Gildrein

Hello everyone! As Bayohne has mentioned in the earlier post, we talked with the development team and are here to relay the latest details on this topic.

Currently the development team is reviewing the accessory point system, including the possibility of abolishing the system. However by doing away with the accessory point system and removing the limit, different issues will arise. For example, by allowing players to have more accessories equipped, the value and effect of each accessory will decrease. Also by having more accessories in possession, players can run into storage problems. To prevent these issues from happening, the development team is thinking things through carefully, so it will be a little more time before we have a concrete solution.

We are looking forward to any additional feedback you may have so please don't hesitate to give us your thoughts!

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So yeah they know it is an issue, and they are looking into either changing or getting rid of it if they can. I knew I had read it somewhere, just had to find it. :)

I would prefer some interesting quests which could give you more points for equiping more accessories.

I would just like there to be a way to increase slot amount.

I would prefer that they do three things:

1) Rebalance slot costs, especially for higher level items.
2) Give us the option of hiding certain pieces of jewelry.
3) Incorporate jewelry sets that give role-specific bonuses.

The system is fine as is, it just needs some rebalancing. Some people simply have zero self-control (see the 'spamming 111111' mentality for further proof of this).

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Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen

Here you go::

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ll=1#post82707




So yeah they know it is an issue, and they are looking into either changing or getting rid of it if they can. I knew I had read it somewhere, just had to find it. :)

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Thanks a bunch for re-finding this for me and others who may have not seen it!

I hope they get rid of them soon. I have no idea why slot costs exist in the first place.

Just get rid of it all together!!!

just remove it. its so stupid 0.o

I think there should still be some limitation and therefore do not feel that it is necessary to remove it entirely. Especially since a limitation allows accessories to have more meaning/impact per item.

However, in my opinion, the way accessory cost currently works is counter-intuitive and encourages people to wear older, lower level accessories since the benefits simply do not scale with higher level items due to current costs and maximum points.

If SE were to increase slot point capacity as a character levels, I think the situation would immediately correct itself. Like many things that exist in this game, I'm amazed it was left this way to begin with. It makes me wonder sometimes just what exactly SE's QA department does. But I suppose that is another topic. ^^

Just get rid of it all together. It makes no sense why I can't wear earrings with my necklace with my rings.

No slot cap...that's fine..

Cost of higher piece is simpli too high, becouse you can't equip more than 2-3 higher piece, and then bonus is better with low level equip.

With actual cost all people can equip all accessory slot, and then nobody became advantaged from cap remove.

And see all gear slot equipped is quite beautifull^^

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Originally Posted by Zephir

Cost of higher piece is simply too high, because you can't equip more than 2-3 higher pieces, and then bonus is better with low level equip.

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This is the big point right here... that it becomes more worthwhile to just have lower lvl equips... thus without incentive to even go for other higher tier accessories, they become useless... and that's just talking about rings for example... people will also prioritize which type of accessory they even want to wear... it's just too limiting.

Anyways, I'm happy that they already have spoken on the issue and are getting ready to release the revamp/removal soon =]

if it goes how it is atm, by the time they increase rank/levels we'll be only able to wear 1 single whopping piece of jewelry. Due to slot cost being 12 or something >.>

Um.... get RID of it (this excuse justifies nothing devs)

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For example, by allowing players to have more accessories equipped, the value and effect of each accessory will decrease. Also by having more accessories in possession, players can run into storage problems. To prevent these issues from happening, the development team is thinking things through carefully, so it will be a little more time before we have a concrete solution.

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#1. No one cares about the "value" of these accessories. The whole market in general is flooded & inflated. Abolishing the slot cost will not affect anyone.

#2. These "storage problems" are a poor excuse. If you're SO concerned about that, then make it to where when we EQUIP armor that it goes out of our inventory while equipped. Furthermore, why even make equipment slots if we can't use them up. There is nothing overpowering in anyway about these few accessory slots.


To devs: Are there any plans to add a "Back" piece slot?

I agree with adjustments, the slots are a limitation that keeps players from gearing up in a manner that would make them "uber". the system as it is does makes players think about how they are going to gear up, but at the same time, it's too confined in terms of what accessories you can really equip. Either the accessories need thier slot cost adjusted, or players need to be given the opportunity to increase thier slot limit through a quest.

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Originally Posted by Vanguard319

Either the accessories need thier slot cost adjusted, or players need to be given the opportunity to increase thier slot limit through a quest.

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Or remove 2 ring slots from the game completely (or abolish slot cost). Slot costs will do no good for FF14 and will just upset the Ps3 users as well. Then we'll be having this same thread yet again.

Nothing about equipping more to accessories will make anyone "UBER!", unless the stat changes next patch are insanely powerful (doubtful).

get ride of it all together, i want to take the time to gear every piece and i want to be able to wear them all at once. it's pointless to have rings and earings and other stuff if can't gear all, then why not just have 1 type? it's backwards not forwards, i think more is the direction games need to go. if a game makes a part 2 it should be that much and more, not less then.

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Originally Posted by weeble

get ride of it all together, i want to take the time to gear every piece and i want to be able to wear them all at once. it's pointless to have rings and earings and other stuff if can't gear all, then why not just have 1 type? it's backwards not forwards, i think more is the direction games need to go. if a game makes a part 2 it should be that much and more, not less then.

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Nailed it.

It's a psychological thing that makes the game feel better. When they added surplus they weren't thinking about the little psychological effects and how it would come off as negative. I hope they are starting to learn about this & how it affects people.

Even if they have to dumb down stats on accessories (which they still shouldn't) at the cost of removing this slot cost system, then they should. For the positive feeling it would have on people in general.

yeah everything seems to be a punishment in this game rather then a positive, it's like yeah i can port instant to crystal, but ..i'll run out quick so running is punishemnt and anoying.

surplus = punishemnt don't want to grind as much when it up, leves great sp makes regular grinding a punishment

slots with cost = punishment i'd rather have all these things taken away...gimme lose of sp at death over this feeling of punishments, it's very psychological and needs to be fixed.