There is little to do in terms of solo content for endgame besides the beastmen tribe quests.
What I suggest is solo trials fights that could take the form of the level 30 and 50 class/job quest fight but be reworked to suit level 50 players.
It could be worked into a Wandering Minstrel quest seeing as how he played a part in giving the player access to hard mode of Ultima.
For example.
The quests grants access to a solo trials tab in the duty finder menu.
Upon starting the quest there will be a cutscene.
(Wandering Minstrel) Ah ,<player name>, the ballad of your victory over the Ultima Weapon is a success. Pray tell me more of such victories. After that the cutscene ends you are prompt to talk to him again and then a box like the one from the achievement npc appears with the names of the level 30 class quest and the level 50 job quest your character have done so far.
Let's take Pugilist for example. Once you select Return of the Holyfist your character will proform the talking emote followed by the Wandering Minstrel saying.
(Wandering Minstrel)So you helped Hamon Holyfist save the Pugilist guild by defeating Weggfarr Wideaxe. Yes, I can make an brilliant ballad. *fade out & then in* Now then wanna hear it. Then you get solo trials tab and it tells you to queue it up.
Used the Duty Finder info tab as a template.http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ps84aee8bc.jpghttp://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ps2a22d7c1.jpg
As for the fight. The fight will be a different then the level 30 one.
It'll start with the cutscene where Holyfist sqaure off against Weggfarr, after Holyfist body blows Weggfarr. Instead of using the Pluto substance he releases a paralyzing mist that affects everyone but Weggfarr. After that he charges at you and the fight starts.
You start with a potent paralysis debuff that can't be removed until you get him to 85% and an cutscene starts with Rurukuta rushing over to you to give you the antidote but is knocked out by Weggfarr. Once you get him between 40%-50% he'll use an enhanced version of Barbaric Surge followed by repeatedly using Iron Tempest
for 45 secs. And when he is down to 10% he'll use an all or nothing attack instantly hitting you for half you current health you have when he does the move.
And here's the image of the job part.
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The rewards itself will be job specific minus the new tomestones that'll drop with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orophin
For example.
1. Job specific accessories.
2. Job specific housing recipes. IE. An untradable interactive Sparring dummy for Pugilist and Monks to use
that increases critical hit rate by 10% once placed on you housing plot.
3. Special item needed for job specific housing recipe.
4. A key item that could be use in the customization stat part quest of the relic upgrade quest line.
(Suggestion) Solo Content.
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03-19-2014, 11:08 PMRomejin(Suggestion) Solo Content.
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03-19-2014, 11:21 PMSynapse
I so long to fight a mirror of my Character, so stats, same skill sets, same additional skill sets.... I really Hope that is the case to obtain relic +2.... please don't make it so i trade in 300 stones i get a relic +2....considering the game("omg too hard, nerf! nerf! nerf!"), i would not be surprised if you can just talk/trade to NPC to get Relic+2.
I wanna see how we do Level caps, when it eventually come, will it be a fight like FFXI to gather items, fight monsters or will it be FFXIV style, NPC A > Loading Screen > NPC B = congratulations, you cap is now level 55.. -
03-19-2014, 11:27 PMTheUltimate3According to a new interview, Relic+II is a questline. Suppossedly one that will take a bit, as they don't expect many to get it done prior to 2.23. Then there was something about "route 3" of a 3 route way of obtaining weapons later, and customizable stats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synapse
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03-19-2014, 11:33 PMGramul
I wouldn't mind some more side things to do by myself.
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03-20-2014, 05:35 AMWelsper59
I love solo content, but mostly just to the extent that it's not intended. It gives me a long-term purpose or goal to aim for, and honestly makes me a better player as a result. A personal achievement, if you will. Games like WoW (particularly vanilla, TBC, and Wrath) and FFXI are perfect examples of what I mean. Anyone from early FFXI remember the JP RDM soloing Bune and Genbu? Or BLMs soloing KSNMs? SMN soloing ENMs? Or perhaps the soloing of Scholo in vanilla WoW by a Warlock?
Some might cry that it's unfair that only certain classes/jobs would be able to do these things. That would be 100% true... if it were something you'd have to pay to do. FFXI, like this game, has a job system. Free of charge to play as another class. WoW allows you to create additional characters/classes for free. It's not unfair, you just don't want to put the time into doing it. And even if you did, it's not easy to solo these things at the level/gear/whatever that you might be at. It took personal "skill" to do most of these things. Things will always go wrong, and if you can't learn to react fast enough or correctly, you're never going to do what these handful of players do.
Of course, intended solo activity can be nice too lol. They just can't make it TOO useful of an activity, by a gear progression standpoint. A solo trials of sorts would be fun, and rather acceptable, if it has limitations similar to how daily quests do. -
03-20-2014, 05:37 AMTupsiConsidering in FFXI there are a few fights (and NMs) that clones your character but a few them with reduced HP..we can't have that in XIV, you want FFXI you you go play FFXI!Quote:
Originally Posted by Synapse
It would be pretty fun though. -
03-20-2014, 05:41 AMSendohJin
how is this different from Levequests? if they wanted to give us Lv 50 levequests, they could easily do that. they just don't seem to want to design them and give meaningful rewards for level capped players.
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03-20-2014, 06:16 AMOrophin
So what would the rewards be? Because it can't be something as good as or better than group content. It is an MMORPG heavily influenced by grouping with others after all.
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03-20-2014, 01:00 PMRomejinIt won't work like a levequest, more like the Ultima Weapon fight in the trials section of the duty finder. But it'll only be a single player fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by SendohJin
I put the answer to your question in the first post since it suited the suggestion.Quote:
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03-25-2014, 05:17 PMRomejinQuote:
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You never know it might happen in the main story towards the climax of the Zodiac/Ascian storyline. -
03-25-2014, 05:46 PMGreedyou do know that a lot of FFXI mobs come from FF games so it's normal to see them in FFXIV and future FF games right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tupsi
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03-25-2014, 06:01 PMLalaRu
I think if someone wants just solo content, he have a great number of choices in offline games. Excluding XI and XIV, all other FF titles are offline, and are simply great!
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03-25-2014, 06:06 PMMcshiggsSolo content is an important part of MMO's, I play weird times, there's not always a group available, it's nice to have something to do when others in my FC aren't on, getting a good MMO is a balance between good group and good solo content.Quote:
Originally Posted by LalaRu
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03-25-2014, 06:15 PMGardes
I would prefer to see the jobs doing their...jobs.
Paladin: taking orders from the sultansworn to protect/escort transports/people
Black mage: helping the guild with closing down void portals and killing off the voidspawns that got through
White mage: travelling to conflict areas to heal the wounded or helping soldiers survive through battle
Bards: travelling tavern to tavern to sing appropriate songs, supporting soldiers in battle (only the soldiers can win the battle for you and they need certain songs to keep going)
Monk: Uhh...train in various places, punch rocks, meditate under waterfall, kick trees, bully random garleans...stuff.
And other stuff for remaining jobs. For rewards, how about making it part the AF2 quest line, along with having to do grouped objectives. Like collect enough marks (from completing these) to get "paragon of _job_ excellence" and then do boss fights to get the armor pieces. -
03-25-2014, 06:17 PMLalaRuYes, I understand that. All the main quest line is solo for a good part, anyway. Maybe problem comes when you want do something while you wait in DF, it happened to me a lot of times, when on DPS role. Cannot level my chocobo because that kicks me out the DF (I had read it will change on 2.2), tribe quests takes something like 10min, rest of the time is just hope the DF pops up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcshiggs
You can still go running FATEs around. The best is anyway, have friends and run dungeons with full party. -
03-25-2014, 07:00 PMZwipe
A timed, ever-changing solo labyrinth with Tonberry stalkers hiding in random corners. find your way to the middle to kill the boss guarding a chest. I'd love to do something like while waiting for DF to swoop me up.
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03-25-2014, 10:10 PMBlueMage
I think there should be Solo content like smuggling.
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03-25-2014, 10:28 PMAlice_89th
I like the idea. Rewards could also be things like class specific minions, or even mounts.
I also like Gardes her idea of having the different classes/jobs doing their actual job. Involve the guilds again to send you on quests. -
03-25-2014, 10:59 PMNevik
I agree with the idea as well.. but also I would personally like to see solo content/trials ( or at the very most 2 man ) that once cleared gives you the ability to raise your base stats, and you get to choose which stat to increase upon completion, or choose the trial that will give you the stats you're looking for ... you go see the sage of your class or something and he/she will guide you on how you can increase your mind to heal better, or your strength to destroy your enemies faster... **and this goes really for any stat.. ACC, CRIT, spellSpeed, skillSpeed, DET...etc..**
...by no means should it be easy, in fact it should be super hard but not impossible to beat ...or it could start off kind of easy then get harder and harder as you take on more trials/quests....
and how cool would it be that when you clear it you can add another +3 mind to your base stat?... or +3 Vit ... ( I'm just throwing numbers out there, it could be more like +5 ) I feel like this will allow players to truly feel like they've accomplish something ON THEIR OWN... no one can never assume that you were carried through or that you bought your win. .... then you can work on going to the next level, getting stronger/smarter, and so on and so on...etc...etc...
perhaps SE can create a new slot for a "trialStone" that will hold all your acquired stats as you get them... -
03-25-2014, 11:06 PMYshnal
I'm all for this idea. The more alternatives the better.
It can be fun having some optional hard solo challenges that make you play your job to the fullest without having someone else to help. I still remember the Gatekeeper fight on TSW and how it was fun and also very useful to make players learn to maximize their role and some fight mechanics. I'm not saying that this should be the same and limit it to just a single encounter, but that the idea might be good and it could be done.
Also, and to add something else, I've always wanted to see the ul'dahn arena being opened to players, allowing us to partake in challenges similar to the ones on the Coliseums in other FF titles :) They can even add a group version of it, too. I might be mistaken, but wasn't it discussed some time ago by the devs? -
04-02-2014, 06:41 AMRomejinIt would be nice to have the Pugilist guild and the remaining Monks team up together and offer random repeatable quests.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alice_89th
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04-02-2014, 06:48 AMGaddes
A FFXIV equivalent of the Maat fight in FFXI would be cool... maybe an evil mirror/clone of your character as that particular class, created by the great dark crystal, that you have to defeat? You'd get some cool interaction (hopefully something more than just the usual 'stoic nod') with your evil self, and it would really require you to be a master of your class to kill easily/effectively.
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04-26-2014, 03:51 PMSisterJane
Long time reader I had to register for this. I like this idea, it'll be good with the token system they're using for people who can't play more then 3-8 hours a day.
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05-17-2014, 11:49 AMRomejinQuote:
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That could work. There are alot of fights in the story and the class/job quest lines that could be reworked with a higher difficulty.
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05-17-2014, 01:05 PMRhasBeast Tribe Quests, 4 types of timeworn maps, gathering, crafting, soloing fates (can include atma grinding), Hunting logs, grand company logs, weekly challenge log, spiritbonding gear, leveling chocobo companion, quests and sidequests and then finding the highest place you can jump from and doing it just to hear the crunch/splat at the bottom... there are *many* things you can do solo at end game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romejin
If you want solo content I suggest playing FF 1 - 10 and 12 - 13 or any other single player game :)
Don't forget this game is still just 9 or so months old and I'm sure they have a lot more content planned :) -
05-17-2014, 04:13 PMTetsaru
Personally, I would like to see new types of levequests for people who are max level, or have reached a certain gear level. All of my classes are 50, so other than my relic books, I have little to no reason to do leves anymore. I think it would be nice to see leves reward small amounts of Myth or Soldiery tomestones, or perhaps certain hard-to-get items like Peacock Ores, Saurian Skins, or Glazenuts on rare occasion. That, and/or come up with some sort of system that utilizes exp gained past Lv50 for something so at least I feel like I'm progressing towards something.
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05-17-2014, 08:55 PMRenikNone of these helps you to develop your character, it's just useless and repetitive content. Believe it or not, solo content is an important part of a MMO, why do you think there is a kind of player called soloer or solo player?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhas
This game needs solo content, useful and difficult solo content that can help the players to develop their characters in an alternative way.
I'm not asking for coil gear from solo content, but actually if you're a pure soloer you can't get more than 50-60 tomes a week, and that's investing more time than the 6 dungeons you need to reach the cap.
As a side note, even if the soloers want to spend most of their time soloing content, they do group content sometimes and enjoy the living community a MMO is, i think this can be a bit difficult to understand for the new generation of players, but we have been playing MMOs since the start, you can't say a MMO is no game for a soloer.