New Chocobo abilities/functions/mechanics

Since most players know what IS coming in the future, namely breeding, its own barn in your garden, skill reset function and the ability to use it whilst in a DF queue - how about some ideas on what you would want from your Chocobo companion that is NOT in that list?

We know an expansion is in the works but is quite a ways in the future, lets say it also comes with some new things for Chocobos.

What would your ideas be for really great new things that have not yet been announced or rumoured to be incoming?

My personal one - more ranks. So the companion can go to rank 15 or 20 or so. What about yours?

Caster role. Choco-Fire, Choco-Blizzard, Choco-Thunder, and Choco-Flare as the attacks provided by it.

Lvl cap increase would be nice, but then we would need new moves for em.

Anyway id like to actually have some sort of "real" treasure map hunting when our chocobo is out. It could work the same way treasure hunting was on FFXIII unless that you re not mounted.

You could use a new type of greens to let your chocobo seek for spots on the ground containing some mats or random gear ( like current maps ) or if you're lucky, chocobos oriented loot.

You would have to defend him from various mobs waves while hes digging ( there could be different treasure ranks with highest requiring a longer digging time and stronger mobs ).

You could get different types of rewards, it could go from Gyhsal greens and chocobo Xp buffs items to unique bardings, job chocobos minions, chocobo themed gear and accessories, that when worn, could affect our chocobo's abilities and stats, affect breeding, chocobo speed, lengthen summon time etc...

Theres tons of stuff we could imagine.

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

Lvl cap increase would be nice, but then we would need new moves for em.

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To expand on this:
Defender - more stat increases and Flash ability.
Attacker - more stat increases and damage increase cooldown.
Healer - more stat increases and dispelling ability.

Increase EXP for chocobo!

And able to use mount chocobo while it's out. But ofcourse, with restriction, you can only use Chocobo mount during that time.

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Originally Posted by Thorauku

Increase EXP for chocobo!

And able to use mount chocobo while it's out. But ofcourse, with restriction, you can only use Chocobo mount during that time.

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As in, its out doing damage and right click on it and boom your character mounts it?

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

As in, its out doing damage and right click on it and boom your character mounts it?

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Nope, can only be used out of combat.

Basically, it's like the same mount mechanics we have now, but it's just that we can still use Chocobo as a mount even if we summon it as a companion.

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Battle Scenario

Player uses Gysahl Greens to summon Chocobo as Companion
Battle ends > Chobo is still out on the field > Player mounts chocobo to find another target > unmount chocobo > Chocobo still a companion without resummoning it using Gysahl Greens.

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Originally Posted by DarkStar

Caster role. Choco-Fire, Choco-Blizzard, Choco-Thunder, and Choco-Flare as the attacks provided by it.

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Choco-meteor :D

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Originally Posted by Thorauku

Nope, can only be used out of combat.

Basically, it's like the same mount mechanics we have now, but it's just that we can still use Chocobo as a mount even if we summon it as a companion.

I.E

Battle Scenario

Player uses Gysahl Greens to summon Chocobo as Companion
Battle ends > Chobo is still out on the field > Player mounts chocobo to find another target > unmount chocobo > Chocobo still a companion without resummoning it using Gysahl Greens.

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Ah i get it now. So you summon it, then mount it (causing it to disappear) then when you dismount again, it reappears as a companion automatically. The whole time your mounted, your summon timer is paused. As soon as you dismount, it resumes.

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Originally Posted by Antanias

Choco-meteor :D

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Gotta admit, i did not think of this. Caster Chocobo would definitely be new and unique. Though... i personally find it quite odd that one could heal in the first place, must less ask it to cast spells such as meteor. :/

Chocobo WHM could rez if your KO'd/ Dragoon one gets the flying Leap and Caster gets Ultima O_o

Caster Chocobo would get Choco-Meteor as an ultimate skill if they increase the rank cap, if only because Ultima itself is a plot-powered Doomsday Weapon.

Also, Choco-Meteor is the better option simply because people who've run afoul of All Red Chocobo random encounters in Final Fantasy Tactics will love having that kind of power at their fingertips. Or they might go into PTSD. Depends on how many times they ran into that particular encounter.

Chocobo Digging, same as XI, except used when its summoned rather than when riding. Just throw some generic gathering items in, the odd Chocobo Treasure (really, this should have been all the solo maps we have now...) for vanity crap, and a lot of this.

Enhancer/Debuffer Chocobo would be nice, too.

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Originally Posted by Sotek

Chocobo Digging, same as XI, except used when its summoned rather than when riding. Just throw some generic gathering items in, the odd Chocobo Treasure (really, this should have been all the solo maps we have now...) for vanity crap, and a lot of this.

Enhancer/Debuffer Chocobo would be nice, too.

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But what would an enhancer/debuffer do that would make it a viable option for anyone? Sure there are heaps of debuffs to choose from... but none of which are potent enough to have a role attached to it.

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

But what would an enhancer/debuffer do that would make it a viable option for anyone? Sure there are heaps of debuffs to choose from... but none of which are potent enough to have a role attached to it.

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Well, to be fair I don't really find any of the current Chocobo roles to be potent enough to be worthwhile, short of the DPS one. I don't really see much of a problem with a enhancer/debuffer if a caster is on the table, considering caster is just DPS from a distance. Either they'd be perfectly balanced, in which case it's just variety for varieties sake, or one will do more DPS, in which case why have the other?

Way I see it, enhancer/debuffer/caster would all just be for hybrid builds. Going all out on enhancer/debuffer could also mitigate a substantial amount of damage, and something like Choco Sleep would just be great in general.

Chocobo Hot and Cold (from IX) or bust!

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Originally Posted by Sotek

Well, to be fair I don't really find any of the current Chocobo roles to be potent enough to be worthwhile, short of the DPS one. I don't really see much of a problem with a enhancer/debuffer if a caster is on the table, considering caster is just DPS from a distance. Either they'd be perfectly balanced, in which case it's just variety for varieties sake, or one will do more DPS, in which case why have the other?

Way I see it, enhancer/debuffer/caster would all just be for hybrid builds. Going all out on enhancer/debuffer could also mitigate a substantial amount of damage, and something like Choco Sleep would just be great in general.

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Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by Yahavage

Chocobo Hot and Cold (from IX) or bust!

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this guy knows where it's at

functions i would like is it to not be retarded, wish it would avoid aoe's xD

See "Angel of Valhalla". Exactly like that. Don't touch anything else.

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

functions i would like is it to not be retarded, wish it would avoid aoe's xD

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Have to agree with this sadly. Fighting those big monsters that spew every debuff in the game causes lots of frustrations with ANY Chocobo as you have move so it follows you out of the aoe.

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Originally Posted by DarkStar

Caster role. Choco-Fire, Choco-Blizzard, Choco-Thunder, and Choco-Flare as the attacks provided by it.

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This is what they originally promised us, the chocobos were supposed to have access to the same jobs we did, but then they realized they promised too much, so the half-done implanted system is what we have now, I would just like to see them put in what was supposed to be in at release.

I want my choco to cast holy..... So I can blind everybody...

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

This is what they originally promised us, the chocobos were supposed to have access to the same jobs we did, but then they realized they promised too much, so the half-done implanted system is what we have now, I would just like to see them put in what was supposed to be in at release.

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Were you here for launch?
(I dont wanna sound bad by asking that by the way)
Just since beta/development and now theres been some problems e.g. massive infastructure hardware expansion due the unexpected sucess and interest at launch (launch month it was hell trying to log-in), then the software to allow more players online-per-world, then some instance bugs, market problems etc...
Not as bad as it sounds, but it was a series of teething problems that poped up - but to their credit they got the serious ones sorted quickly :)

Granted since October its been stable and great (IMO) but I havent played everyday so I can say its been good when I've been online at least, my point is they've had bigger problems and content to work on then the Chocobo's battle mechanics.

All that said I agree more options for the Chocobos would be nice as people have said colour, barding options, class/abilities and its level-up system.
Its AI could do with a lil tweeking to avoid AoE as well.

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Originally Posted by Milmoko_Gemoko

Were you here for launch?
(I dont wanna sound bad by asking that by the way)

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I was here at launch, it was horrible, that doesn't change the fact that they didn't deliver what they told us they were going to deliver, and I'm not just talking about the chocobos. They had to use all that time to fix all the release problems, because they screwed up the release, no que system, having to get lucky just to get past the title screen with no errors, hoping that the NA servers would actually load for you, that was them screwing up. Crystal Tower was late, housing was late, we still haven't seen personal housing, PvP was late, again no sign of fronlines pvp, treasure maps came late, no free company alliances yet. I'm just wondering how long people like you will keep making excuses making it ok for them to keep tossing out half done content that will be finished at a later time, or maybe it's time for them to stop telling us what they are going to do until they finish what should already be in, that way you won't have people like me bringing up stuff like this whenever they don't come through on what they say, or implement something that isn't thought out in the least (like the ready check, did they just not think that people would use it in the middle of battle to annoy people, because if so they aren't doing their job in my opinion). I know the game was rushed, they made the game in a short time with a short team, I have heard all that, well guess what, you can tell that just by playing, they didn't do anything spectacular with what they had, they did something mediocre, like one would expect with the time and people they had.

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

functions i would like is it to not be retarded, wish it would avoid aoe's xD

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I've always found it odd that there is a "Follow" command for Chocobos, but not a "Stay" command...

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

Lvl cap increase would be nice, but then we would need new moves for em.

Anyway id like to actually have some sort of "real" treasure map hunting when our chocobo is out. It could work the same way treasure hunting was on FFXIII unless that you re not mounted.

You could use a new type of greens to let your chocobo seek for spots on the ground containing some mats or random gear ( like current maps ) or if you're lucky, chocobos oriented loot.

You would have to defend him from various mobs waves while hes digging ( there could be different treasure ranks with highest requiring a longer digging time and stronger mobs ).

You could get different types of rewards, it could go from Gyhsal greens and chocobo Xp buffs items to unique bardings, job chocobos minions, chocobo themed gear and accessories, that when worn, could affect our chocobo's abilities and stats, affect breeding, chocobo speed, lengthen summon time etc...

Theres tons of stuff we could imagine.

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That was actually originally in FFXI. Your chocobo's skills leveled up as you found stuff, and while raising your chocobo you could train it to have certain skills which made hunting for treasure much easier. Chocobo breeding n FFXI was very deep. It took several generations to breed a strong one.

Light party dungeons with chocobos, barding should 100% have stats(!!!), questline with your vhoco with story & cutscenes. Gyshal should be time based effect rather than item based. Questable new skills and new ranks.

HOT & COLD game!

Please anything really. This is an awesome system that just needs reasons to exist!

The main thing that's stopping me from actually really using my chocobo as a companion is the fact it stops me from mounting. Until that changes I'm not going to find it very useful.

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Originally Posted by Seif

barding should 100% have stats(!!!)

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Not going to happen, they specifically stated they wouldn't be giving stats to barding so you can have your chocobo look however you want.

Then again... We're getting a vanity system (no reason it can't also apply to 'bos) and I specifically remember the developers going "We're doing this so you can have your Chocobo tank even if you prefer it in WHM Barding!", and that decided to shit all over that concept with how you obtain the bardings...

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Originally Posted by Sotek

Not going to happen, they specifically stated they wouldn't be giving stats to barding so you can have your chocobo look however you want.

Then again... We're getting a vanity system (no reason it can't also apply to 'bos) and I specifically remember the developers going "We're doing this so you can have your Chocobo tank even if you prefer it in WHM Barding!", and that decided to shit all over that concept with how you obtain the bardings...

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On that exact same note i have specifically read them stating in big quotations that bard WILL have stats added to them some time in the future. So to be quite honest, its difficult taking what they say at face value when they seem to change their mind quite frequently.

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

On that exact same note i have specifically read them stating in big quotations that bard WILL have stats added to them some time in the future. So to be quite honest, its difficult taking what they say at face value when they seem to change their mind quite frequently.

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It's not really them changing their mind, it's them realizing they don't the time/manpower/ability/knowhow to do everything they say, some may call it changing their mind, I call it poor planning and follow through.

Specifically talking about Defender chocobo but would it hurt if we can have Protect for them -.- Also would like to see an increase of Rank and more def buff/enmity skills.