Minion Battles!!

there are so many minions that eventually they'll have to be put to use. not just follow you around but they should make it to where you can challenge other players to minion battles. kinda like a pokemon battle but y'know FFXIV style. if they did do this how do you think it would work? customization, training your minion?
maybe they would have preset moves?
which minion do you like and how would you use them if there were some type of use for them.

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Originally Posted by shiranui000

there are so many minions that eventually they'll have to be put to use. not just follow you around but they should make it to where you can challenge other players to minion battles. kinda like a pokemon battle but y'know FFXIV style. if they did do this how do you think it would work? customization, training your minion?
maybe they would have preset moves?
which minion do you like and how would you use them if there were some type of use for them.

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If it's FFXIV style, they'd probably open up the Wolves' Den arena to minion/companion fights like this. Since minions are just meant to be fluff, I think it would be better/more thrilling to see the minions use abilities at random during the fight. Keeps people from coming up with "the perfect strategy" to use on people who don't know it.

For my favorite minion, Coblyn Larva! He's just so cute! ^_^

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Originally Posted by khmfdoom

if they do this then its a direct copy cat from pet battles in wow and that is a copy right issue they will run into yes its a nice down time feature people will like but there are road blocks from actually allowing this to happen

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Wow, there is just so much ignorance in that statement it can't be a joke.

I remember once, along my journey's in FFXIV I recall seeing a bunch of npc's crowded around two crabs, and they were battling out to the death. xD

Set them up like FF7/8/9 battles!

Pudgy Puk, I choose you!

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Originally Posted by khmfdoom

if they do this then its a direct copy cat from pet battles in wow and that is a copy right issue they will run into yes its a nice down time feature people will like but there are road blocks from actually allowing this to happen

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There always has to be one dummy posting this garbage.

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Originally Posted by khmfdoom

its not garbage statement lyrinn its the truth you cant add a feature like that when other games have done it unless you have the consent unless you do it a completely different way my statement is a valid legal statement nothing more nothing less

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Right, because pet battle is such a unique feature that definitely doesn't exist across hundreds of games besides WoW. While we're at it, let's sue everyone for the copying of slaying animals as a newbie. Oh, the idea was giving out quests is also directly copied, let's sue for that too. Don't stop there, that strand of grass looks exactly the same.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

so with that you think i have no idea what im talking about with the auto decline feature also

why all the hate for a general statement se has already made statements on pet battles in the past in interviews mentioning they have road blocks they have to overcome before even putting in a system like this please dont hate on someone for posting somthing that was already mentioned in the past

I think this would be a very cool feature, you could perhaps have a card battling system, perhaps like Pokemon or whatever they have in WoW (never really seen more than 2 mins of footage of that game, don't have any interest in it).

I am willing to bet that what khmfdoom mentioned about the legality of using a similar feature from WoW might cause problems (you'd be surprised what small things people try to copyright), I am certain as long as they made a different type of system they could find a way round this, which is what he was getting at?

https://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/c...ctual_property

If you click on the above link you'll get a further understanding of copyrights and trademarks, they can cover so many small things that you wouldn't think of it's unreal.

They might not be able to copyright the general feature of minion battles, but their particular design of how it works, however complex or simple the changes need to be to allow them to avoid being sued might mean the mini-game is either very close or extremely different.

Who knows until they actually try to act on the idea?

This is exactly what i was getting at i didn't think i would have to clearly layout all the small things. That can be the road blocks that cause certain features from being in certain games being called an idiot for this statement clearly shows people have word vomit and don't think before they speak.

to get a copyright, you simply need to 1) affix, 2) an original work in 3) some tangible medium. the bar for 2 is really really low. phonebooks (for those who remember what they are) were copyrightable. databases of public information are copyrightable. not the data in and of itself but in the presentation of that data.

this is not to be confused with patents which allow you to exclude others from the marketplace that develop inventions that "read on" or fall under your patent claims.

Maybe khmfdoom should start using some punctuations. It's quite a headache trying to read your posts.

I use it when i want to its the internet not a classroom or a paper i have to turn in.

I always wondered why they bothered with Minions when, instead, they could have made it so the Minions were just cards... I mean, think about it... You can get infinite numbers of certain Minions from FATEs/Dungeons/DoL/DoH/etc., then you have the super rare ones which you can only really get once. It would be pretty much exactly the same as FFVIII/FFIX card games. Do I throw Qiqirn cards, which I can make a lot of (though that might be costly, but it boosts the economy at least) at my enemy, or do I use my Dalamud card that I'd only be able to get again from beating someone else foolish enough to use it? Had the exact same dilemma with the old card games.

Maybe just like FFVIII we an get a Card ability to turn Minions into cards... Though I really would miss having that spiky red yoga ball following me around...

Patch 2.3 really needs to be sooner so we can have the Golden Saucer already.

SE has already done a pet battle pankration says hi. Last time I checked they didn't get sued for that or their whole monstrosity where you are the monster and now can do pvp with it.

Pretty sure the issue with pet battles isn't because of legal issues, but because they have no system in place that allows such, which means they gotta make it and test it which is a time consuming process. You probably won't see a feature like this until at least a new expansion.

+1 for OP^

SE: P L E A S E Turn Based gameplay mode for old FF Fans, can be minions...

(do not forget about large group of people still playing Turn Based Games (this one here)).

Sorry, little off topic, but the first thought that popped into my head:

"ASSEMBLE THE MINIONS!!!"

On topic, yes, it would be great. Completely random, no strategy, just pick one, throw it in the "ring" with another, and let them go and see who wins.

A way to start a battle is if you see someone with a minion out, there could be the challenge minion option added when you click on them.

I would disagree with it being part of a card system though. I think it should be completely separate from and in addition to a card game. :)

It would be a mix of my two favorite things. Final Fantasy and Pokemon. DO IT! DO IT NOW!
http://www.fullgifs.com/wp-content/u...okemon-gif.gif

Companion Battling would be far cooler.

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Originally Posted by KalSki

+1 for OP^

SE: P L E A S E Turn Based gameplay mode for old FF Fans, can be minions...

(do not forget about large group of people still playing Turn Based Games (this one here)).

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This would be cool. So like each minion is a unit with specific stats/abilities, some minions being stronger and some being weaker. Then you deploy a set number of minions in a turn-based battle in a square grid, like in FFT/FFTA or super robot wars/taisen (SLG games). Would give minions more use and ppl more reasons to get the stronger/rare minions.

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Originally Posted by Jamie28334

perhaps like Pokemon or whatever they have in WoW (never really seen more than 2 mins of footage of that game, don't have any interest in it).

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This should give you an idea without exposing you too much to WoW.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

This should give you an idea without exposing you too much to WoW.

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Thanks duelle, so yeah it seems as if it's almost a complete rip off from Pokemon given it's 'WoWkemon' names and abilities in-game? So clearly if they managed to do this without any kind of problems from the makers of Pokemon than SE shouldn't have too much difficulty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K6qZxWytbQ

FFXI's Pankration as mentioned earlier on in the post is effectively the same sort of system, just takes a lot of time setting the fights up, but at least they have a system they could use and modify on if they chose to.

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GE: Are there any future plans for minions? In WoW, for example, there was a battle-type system. Any plans for anything like that?

Yoshida: We have so many minions planned. For us, we don’t want this to have too big of a footprint in the game, because some will be from events and different things and if they were really useful in the game and some people that don’t have them will be at a disadvantage. We don’t want to create that unfairness, we want it to be more of a fun thing. We saw how they did the fighting pets in WoW, and I thought it was really just Pokemon. But, we are looking at having the companions, like the Chocobo or Magitek armor, battle. Would you rather have two airships or two fingers fighting? We think that’s what the players want – to see Chocobos and Magitek fighting – so we will put our efforts there.

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http://gamerescape.com/2013/06/17/e3...naoki-yoshida/

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Originally Posted by Nikita

Yoshi quote"We think that’s what the players want – to see Chocobos and Magitek fighting – so we will put our efforts there."

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I won't say I particularly WANT it, but I'd likely have tons of amusement watching Maggie fight.

I'd rather they work on a system so that more than just our Chocobo can fight with us, though. I'd rather my Maggie fight at my side with her magitek guns (because at this point, I only use my Chocobo for healing.. which isn't often).

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Category:Monstrosity
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Pankration

All they gotta recreate, so SE already has two systems in FFXI they could adapt for something like this in this game. I know the mantra is "FFXI = bad!" with the XIV community, but it really does show they at least tried unique systems in their MMOs at one point.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Category:Monstrosity
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Pankration

All they gotta recreate, so SE already has two systems in FFXI they could adapt for something like this in this game. I know the mantra is "FFXI = bad!" with the XIV community, but it really does show they at least tried unique systems in their MMOs at one point.

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This is facts

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Originally Posted by khmfdoom

I use it when i want to its the internet not a classroom or a paper i have to turn in.

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So what you're saying is that what they are trying to teach you in classrooms is only to be used in those classrooms? Please go watch the film "Idiocracy" if you haven't seen it already, and know that it's people like you who are taking the world in that direction.

I liked the idea of making it a miniaturized turn-based classic FF combat system (ATB!) to PvP with our minions.

Party of four-five minions with a limited skillset, they can use potions from your inventory as their own.

They have an LB gauge that charges up the same as ours, and depending on their role it acts very much the same as ours does too.

PANKRATION!! bring it back? :P

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Originally Posted by khmfdoom

I use it when i want to its the internet not a classroom or a paper i have to turn in.

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So because you're lazy other people have to work harder to understand you and that's their problem?