Dumbest Vote Kick Abuse

So I got vote booted from CT, apparently for lotting gear.

I entered solo as a tank, for that nice insta-queue. I'm a mediocre tank in decent gear, and the whole alliance was a mediocre group.

We stumble through two bosses, and a tank piece I was after dropped on the 2nd boss, so I hit need. Nothing has been said in party chat about lotting, and this is a cross-server PUG after all.

We take down Atamos, and as we're setting up for the bomb and people are going afk, the piece drops to me (other tank didn't roll on it). 20 seconds later I'm booted from the zone.

I look up the party members on the lodestone, and surprise surprise, at least 5 are in the same FC.

Instead of turning this into a butthurt rant, I laugh at how stupid of a move it was for them. Someone wanted to lot tank gear from a non-tank class, so they boot a tank that can't lot agains them for the next two bosses to pick up one that can. I hope the replacement tank outlotted them for some gear as well.

So you "lotted" on tank gear and he wanted to "lot" on it too?

Lol.

There are a LOT of groups that thhink, rules they had in "pf" apply still when they join a DF or are replacing members.

When I solo queue I did not sign any "party" contract to anything, If I need or want something I WILL lot on it.

I got kicked once for skipping a group of mobs in stone vigil because the other guy wanted the xp.

You should take this opportunity to do either 1 of 2 things:

1. Report them for harassment/unfair use of the vote feature or whichever system applies in this case.
2. Send a /tell to the guy who wanted the piece you got and let him know how well it fits and how good the piece is, them blist him.

I know which one I would do :)

Was it the tank body armor that drop in CT you lot on? Because i have seen players fight for that even in duty finder.

This is why I'm not running CT anymore, 4/5 CT I join got full alliance trolls

I agree that is pretty stupid.

You know what also sucks? Running CT 7 times in a row on Monday trying to get the tank chest piece, and accidentally clicking "Greed" on the Archer belt because the PS3 direction controls makes you select "Need and "Greed" before you get to click "Pass". Thereby locking you out of CT for another week.

Happened to me on Monday. I've barely even logged in since.

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Originally Posted by Jamie28334

You should take this opportunity to do either 1 of 2 things:

1. Report them for harassment/unfair use of the vote feature or whichever system applies in this case.
2. Send a /tell to the guy who wanted the piece you got and let him know how well it fits and how good the piece is, them blist him.

I know which one I would do :)

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There's also an option 3. Do all of the above. :D

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Originally Posted by Karnyboy

I got kicked once for skipping a group of mobs in stone vigil because the other guy wanted the xp.

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we booted a healer because he wanted to rush our xp run. it was all pug, but 3 against 1 decided we wanted xp. i told him he didn't have to stay, but he said he'd stay and just not heal. so, we booted him and had an FC member in-progress join our run.

we kicked them not because they werent wanting to do an xp run, but because they chose to no longer cooperate because we wanted to do an xp run. if you were a tank, they probably felt the same way as we did about that healer.

It's LOOT

ffs Im usually not a grammar nazi but when someone says it the wrong way 10 times in a row I want to pull my hair out

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Originally Posted by FallenHero

It's LOOT

ffs Im usually not a grammar nazi but when someone says it the wrong way 10 times in a row I want to pull my hair out

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Lot as in "cast lots" for the "loot" I want???

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Originally Posted by FallenHero

It's LOOT

ffs Im usually not a grammar nazi but when someone says it the wrong way 10 times in a row I want to pull my hair out

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Originally Posted by chococo

Lot as in "cast lots" for the "loot" I want???

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I think a lot of veteran mmo players are confused by the term "lot" as the usual term is "roll". It's the first game I've ever seen the term "lot" used.

They are not confused but most probably ex-11 players as the term is lot or pass on items in there.

No joke, any time I go into CT I don't talk about gear even if directly asked. If people get insistent I immediately look up if some of the names are in an FC or not. I've lied twice because I can smell whats going to happen next after being prodded with questions about loot.

Nothings came of it yet, but I know the day will come that I can see 4-5 FC people ready to kick me cause I'm lotting blm or tank or whatever, and I say "yeah nah already got this week" to avoid being kicked.

Then I'll lot an item and there will probably be massive drama.

But should I just tell them and get kicked beforehand? I'd rather not. Anyone who I can tell is grouped, and is demanding to know what I wish to lot, has absolutely no good intentions for it.

This is the state we have attained.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

Instead of turning this into a butthurt rant, I laugh at how stupid of a move it was for them. Someone wanted to lot tank gear from a non-tank class, so they boot a tank that can't lot agains them for the next two bosses to pick up one that can. I hope the replacement tank outlotted them for some gear as well.

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Only that once you get a lot, you can't lot again for the rest of the week. If the booted you, it was probably for some other reason.

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Originally Posted by Jamie28334

Y2. Send a /tell to the guy who wanted the piece you got and let him know how well it fits and how good the piece is, them blist him.

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I would do this, but I would also rub some more salt on the sore wounds by telling them that I would do it to them again in a heartbeat when given the chance.

Going to play devil's advocate a bit and say it could have not been about the gear at all. You did say it was right after the boss. That fc might not have thought you were pulling your weight. I'm surprised no one else has said this given what you posted. You don't really know why they kicked you.

Are you sure they kicked you because you won an item? Without the full story it's really hard to tell. I would have thought if another member in their party wanted tank gear, they would have kept you as you no longer had the potential to roll on gear because you'd won a piece. A new tank could most likely win another roll against them. Kicking you for that reason seems highly illogical.

I actually saw something like this (ish) happen last night in CT. Two healers, both after the same piece of loot. One said she was passing on the gloves in case the chest dropped, the other said they were after the chest as well.

The chest dropped, both people needed on it. Healer A starts yelling at Healer B about how this is the last piece she needs before she can stop doing CT, and her friend joined in, trying to encourage Healer B to pass. Of course Healer B didn't, and he won, so Healer A left and Healer A's friend started yelling at Healer B.

Why do people expect someone else to pass so they can have loot, when they don't even know each other?

I do laugh at the stupidity of kicking someone who already got their loot for the week, when obviously you could no longer roll against them. xD

Eh, I got kick from a CT run for calling out a SCH that was using a Lv5 book. Turned out that it was a premade FC group and my vote to kick was offensive. CT is a breeding ground for stupid. Wouldn't be surprised in the least if that group kicked so you 'couldn't lot any more tank stuff' lol.

Way I see it:

[Free Company chat]

Random Tank: "Hey guys, what're you up to?"

Party Members: "Nothing, running CT, just got to Allagan Bomb"

Random Tank: "Aw drats, I only need the behemoth piece in there"

Party Members: "Wait, we'll kick the tank in our party so you can join in progress, he already got his piece either way."

You should have apologized for not bringing up the "lotting rules" after you've joined. Especially if you know you are going to eventually need on something. Boot was well deserved and I hope you've learnt from your mistakes. Next time, don't abuse the "need-greed-pass" system and communicate with other players. This is a social MMO after all, you are not supposed to play it as a single player game. Also, making a thread because you got kicked from a party speaks for itself. So yeah...

/Moral elitist jerk mode off

Apparently you experienced very high level of stupidity right there. Of course, you did nothing wrong and those guys should feel ashamed for acting like kids.

/Normal person mode off

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Originally Posted by ZanderMist

Way I see it:

[Free Company chat]

Random Tank: "Hey guys, what're you up to?"

Party Members: "Nothing, running CT, just got to Allagan Bomb"

Random Tank: "Aw drats, I only need the behemoth piece in there"

Party Members: "Wait, we'll kick the tank in our party so you can join in progress, he already got his piece either way."

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This is possible. It's somewhat rude to just boot the guy without saying why, though. I think most players would be fine with leaving the run once they've gotten their drop, so there's really no harm in talking to them about it first.

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

Only that once you get a lot, you can't lot again for the rest of the week. If the booted you, it was probably for some other reason.

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Read what you quoted, then the title of the thread, they are related.

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Originally Posted by Vilzen

Going to play devil's advocate a bit and say it could have not been about the gear at all. You did say it was right after the boss. That fc might not have thought you were pulling your weight. I'm surprised no one else has said this given what you posted. You don't really know why they kicked you.

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The run started out shaky, and I don't claim to be a great tank, but I wasn't at the level of bad to get booted for it, and I wasn't afk or trolling. I was wearing crafted gear that could be perceived as spiritbonding gear by someone with no common sense; all ilvl70 with mostly Tier IV's and at least one overmeld per piece.

First boss I died on because the healers were godawful, or otherwise occupied. Other tank was not main tank for bone dragon, and I tanked 5/12 skele pops into proper position and reset near center for heals, which were very slow. Then I tanked 2 ahrimans on a platform right by the center platform, close enough for heals but away from everyone else, and died from non-aoe attacks.

2nd boss I tanked for the first minute as we were alliance A, then for the next 45 seconds or so because alliance B tanks never took over, until I died yet again, not from avoidable aoe, but from both healers focusing on keeping our pot alive.

I was dps for Atamos; other tank was pulling. I smacked a dira that popped while the previous mob was still at around 20% and ran it back, stunned it's fire, then went back to dps.

So they did you a favor. Stupid of them yes... but you got your loot and didn't have to suffer through the rest of your 1000th CT run. They showed you sir!

Also just saying you jump between "lotting" (which still makes no sense to me. Seriously look it up dice roles are not lots) and "rolling" which makes this a pita to read.

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Originally Posted by Zarzak

So they did you a favor. Stupid of them yes... but you got your loot and didn't have to suffer through the rest of your 1000th CT run. They showed you sir!

Also just saying you jump between "lotting" (which still makes no sense to me. Seriously look it up dice roles are not lots) and "rolling" which makes this a pita to read.

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Cast lots is a FFXI term used for gathering loot. Traditionally, the "roll" is anywhere from 0 to 999. It's based-on an old lottery concept called sortition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition The more you know~

These days I just say I'm there for the myth than I just roll on what I want and move on.